COVID-19: Thailand reports 8,452 new coronavirus cases, 57 deaths

[anchadian]

From the new cases:

 

- 7,654 were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

- 791 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 7 imported cases

 

8,449 people have recovered in the past 24 hours

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1453235683569582087

[anchadian]

 

A total of 72.05 million Covid vaccines were administered between February 28 - October 26, including 40.72 million first doses and 29.12 million second doses (40.4% of the population are fully vaccinated).

 

812,009 people were vaccinated yesterday.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1453237777915654145

[anchadian]

Of the 8,285 cases in the general Thai population, the highest numbers were 859 in Bangkok followed by 551 in Songkhla, 532 in Pattani, 475 in Yala, 358 in Chanthaburi, 345 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, 331 in Narathiwat, 306 in Samut Prakan and 297 in Chonburi.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1453237158731567110

 

[Cake Monster]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Thailand and UK have similar populations. UK has way more infections. UK does around 1,000,000 tests a day. I wonder what the infection numbers would be here if Thailand did 1,000,000 tests a day rather than at a guess 30,000.

And the reason the UK can test so many on a Daily basis, is that the Virus is under control within the Country.

Yes ! . There are many cases positive, but its because the testing has found them.

With high Vaccination rates, and the excellent Health Service, those that are infected, are not patients in need of Hospitalization, and can be treated at Home under supervision.

if Thailand performed a Million tests a Day for 2 weeks , I wonder if their Health Care would be able to cope

 

 

[Rhacsyn]

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Thailand and UK have similar populations. UK has way more infections. UK does around 1,000,000 tests a day. I wonder what the infection numbers would be here if Thailand did 1,000,000 tests a day rather than at a guess 30,000.

I fully respect and understand the potential benefits of mass testing and would never question the uses.

 

Having read your post I then opened UK news and was surprised to come across the damning report below of the particular "test and trace" system used in the UK. Eye watering numbers with contractors paid around Baht 50,000 a day. It is a report prepared by MP's in the UK and suggests that the system failed in it's main objective and goes on to say that there is no clear evidence that test and trace as used in UK works. I am startled by the report but there it is.

 

It is about the UK, of course, but does raise questions about what would have been best for Thailand. More testing yes but....

 

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-test-and-trace-failed-in-its-main-objective-highly-critical-report-from-committee-of-mps-finds-12445501

Edited October 27, 2021 by Rhacsyn
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[Bluetongue]

30 minutes ago, Rhacsyn said:

I fully respect and understand the potential benefits of mass testing and would never question the uses.

 

Having read your post I then opened UK news and was surprised to come across the damning report below of the particular "test and trace" system used in the UK. Eye watering numbers with contractors paid around Baht 50,000 a day. It is a report prepared by MP's in the UK and suggests that the system failed in it's main objective and goes on to say that there is no clear evidence that test and trace as used in UK works. I am startled by the report but there it is.

 

It is about the UK, of course, but does raise questions about what would have been best for Thailand. More testing yes but....

 

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-test-and-trace-failed-in-its-main-objective-highly-critical-report-from-committee-of-mps-finds-12445501

I don't think you'll get very far with a story critical of the UK on this page, many posters here hold the UK up as a shining light especially compared to Thailand on testing rates

[Bluetongue]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Of the 8,285 cases in the general Thai population, the highest numbers were 859 in Bangkok followed by 551 in Songkhla, 532 in Pattani, 475 in Yala, 358 in Chanthaburi, 345 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, 331 in Narathiwat, 306 in Samut Prakan and 297 in Chonburi.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1453237158731567110

 

So the now more than 2 week complete alcohol ban in Chantaburi hasn't done much. I think nearly every day the figures have been as high or higher than they were then.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

At least they are finally now getting on with it and not unnecessarily delaying the opening any longer. 
 

“Learning to with it” has come too late sadly for some. 

 

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"learning to live with it" could only be achieved with the vaccination rates up so yes too late sadly for some. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Bluetongue said:

I don't think you'll get very far with a story critical of the UK on this page, many posters here hold the UK up as a shining light especially compared to Thailand on testing rates

The reason the UK is sometimes used is because of the population comparison however I agree you could you countless other countries instead to compare with Thailand seeing as Thailand is 144th in the world for testing per million people.

[Bluetongue]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The reason the UK is sometimes used is because of the population comparison however I agree you could you countless other countries instead to compare with Thailand seeing as Thailand is 144th in the world for testing per million people.

Well it is what it is, they could test ten times more and still not waste so much money

[Kadilo]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"It is what it is" also a quote by Prayut when the 3rd wave hit. I am sure he agrees with you.

Was that what he actually said?

 

Can you provide a link/source for that exact quote. 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

At least they are finally now getting on with it and not unnecessarily delaying the opening any longer. 
 

“Learning to with it” has come too late sadly for some. 

 

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Yep. I guess if they didn't screw up the vaccines and let/encourage the virus to run loose things would probably be better. Learning to live with it when you basically have no income and see the govt going to spend Bt100,000,000 on a possible super spreader NYE show might not sit so well with a lot of the population that has to "learn to live with it."

[vandeventer]

4 hours ago, sungod said:

Countries with more people will inevitably get more cases, simple math.

 

93rd overall with cases per 1 million

 

130th for deaths per 1 million

 

Pretty good (although still very sad) overall.

So just how good is the sinovac vaccine against the new Delta Plus? It doesn't get better if it spreads.

[SymS]

About 1% death rate in Thailand vs 3.3% death rate in Indonesia. I wonder what causes the difference.

[Rimmer]

Baiting post and a reply removed

[candide]

4 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Excellent article highlighting the hidden pain and the elevated suicide rates since Covid resulting in over 10 deaths/100,000 population in 2020 and predicted to go even higher. 
 

Sadly for these people they won’t get a second chance. 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thailand-suicide-covid-19-mental-health-department-director-general-2247011

From the article: "Latest data from the Mental Health Department showed a marked increase in suicide deaths, which rose from at least 5,768 in 2018 to 5,870 in 2019. The figure was 6,597 in 2020. "

It's sad, an increase of 727 in 2020, around 12%.  It would not be surprising to have a similar or worse increase in 2021.

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

Was that what he actually said?

 

Can you provide a link/source for that exact quote. 

No need for a link, I remember that quote well, 'it is what it is'.

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

"learning to live with it" could only be achieved with the vaccination rates up so yes too late sadly for some. 

 

 

Thailand thinks they are ready, and able to be " learning to live with it ".

However, with a very poor testing rate, poor Vaccination numbers and a Health Service way below that of Countries such as the UK, they are a long way short of this ability.

All this false " self belief " in their ability fools nobody.

 

[Kadilo]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

From the article: "Latest data from the Mental Health Department showed a marked increase in suicide deaths, which rose from at least 5,768 in 2018 to 5,870 in 2019. The figure was 6,597 in 2020. "

It's sad, an increase of 727 in 2020, around 12%.  It would not be surprising to have a similar or worse increase in 2021.

The article highlights that very fact that the number is likely to increase in 2021 due to the prolonged ongoing lockdown situation. 
 

Very sad to see so many young people who should have had so much to look forwards to, so desperate to want to end their lives so early. Many would have lost their jobs, incomes and any hope of a future. 
 

Add into this the increase in mental health of children which would have deteriorated for many during the schools being shut and it’s a sorry picture contributed to by Covid and the severe lockdowns/lack of tourism. 
 

Let’s hope from next month things start to look up for all. 
 

 

[Olmate]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

No need for a link, I remember that quote well, 'it is what it is'.

 Must remember that in future!  

[Kadilo]

19 minutes ago, anchadian said:

No need for a link, I remember that quote well, 'it is what it is'.

Well everyone’s memory is  different so there is if you wish to substantiate it as an accurate quote word for word and want people to believe it. 
 

Otherwise you could have a situation where people are using all kinds of unsubstantiated quotes to argue their case and discredit others., particularly in the case of the country’s leader I would have thought it would be extremely prudent. 

 

I was under the impression from what I had previously read on this forum, as recent as yesterday when a new poster was asked for a link to verify his information, that quotes could only be used with a link/source provided or they were removed as potentially spreading false/misleading information. 
 

Are you saying this is not now the case? 
 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Kadilo

[Kadilo]

7 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 Must remember that in future!  

Yes, what a difference a day makes. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Kadilo

[Nabby]

Really not good. 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So the 1000 cases in the prison we saw announced last night must have been a total from several weeks as they did not show a spike in the prison numbers today.  With ATK cases added we are over the 10k average mark.

 

7 day average shows Thailand at 11th overall in cases, but as yu can see the weekly deaths have declined by 122 deaths which is good. Yet the testing metric is abysmall

11

Thailand

65,345

72,893

-10%

933

463

585

-21%

7

-7,548

-108

-122

-2

70,030,726

 

 

Thailand still at 24th overall since the start of covid, while only averaging 212,951 tests per 1 million in the population.

24

Thailand

1,866,863

+7,706

18,865

+66

1,749,848

+9,532

98,150

2,432

26,658

269

14,913,135

212,951

70,030,726

 

 

Thailand at 36th overall for total number of deaths as well since the start of the pandemic

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

36

Thailand

1,866,863

+7,706

18,865

+66

1,749,848

+9,532

98,150

2,432

26,658

269

14,913,135

212,951

70,030,726

Spikes everywhere, clusters everywhere, deep south in deep doo-doo

yet numbers are dropping..

Must be a November blessing.

 

[sungod]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Thailand and UK have similar populations. UK has way more infections. UK does around 1,000,000 tests a day. I wonder what the infection numbers would be here if Thailand did 1,000,000 tests a day rather than at a guess 30,000.

People dying is what bothers me, not seemingly healthy people walking around with no idea that they are infected. We need to get away with the infatuation for daily counts and move on.

 

Admittedly there are some on here who would need to look for another hobby if that were the case.

[Millcx]

7 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Possible scenaio for less walkins. People feel a bit sick and do home ATK. Do it wrong and get a false negative. Spread the infection. Numbers remain reasonably steady due to testing being set at a paticular number rather than searching proactively for infections. My guess at testing numbers is around 20-30,000. Pity the govt. decided to no longer say how many tests are being carried out daily like other countries do. Victoria with a population of just under 6.7 million conducted 88,000 tests yesterday. As I say low testing numbers and ATK's here I believe are keeping numbers artificially low. If testing numbers were revealed then we could actually see if there is a meaningful reduction. As for deaths once again I wonder if there has been a change away from dying from Covid-19 to dying with Covid-19. 

Hallelujah… First post ever (Globally) I have seen that asks the questions .. Where is the breakdown of deaths stats that isn’t lumped with Covid … o body gives … WHY … Because Suicide and Shootings don’t make life exciting and the fancy coloured charts and stats are as useful as wind in a spacesuit after tin of beans ….

[sungod]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I would be interested to see pnuemonia excess deaths 2020/2021.

Why?  Would you believe those figures and not the Covid ones?

 

They lie about everything here remember.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

So just how good is the sinovac vaccine against the new Delta Plus? It doesn't get better if it spreads.

I understand where you're coming and it's a fair question. Sinovac by way of fact is not very good. I'm thinking it's not going to be very good against anything else.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, sungod said:

Why?  Would you believe those figures and not the Covid ones?

 

They lie about everything here remember.

Silly comment. I simply said I would be interested to see the figures. Wouldn't you?

 

[Kadilo]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I understand where you're coming and it's a fair question. Sinovac by way of fact is not very good. I'm thinking it's not going to be very good against anything else.

Have you got some data/link to demonstrate what you mean by your fact that it’s “is not very good” 

 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Kadilo