snoop1130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Pattaya entertainment and tourism operators have vowed to keep pushing to allow alcohol sales in restaurants, hotels, and allowing the legal reopening of venues, even after Chonburi’s communicable disease committee declined to ease the alcohol rules when they released their most recent orders around Covid-19 restrictions last night, December 1st. This is despite places like Bangkok and Phuket extending their drinking hours at “restaurants” (In reality, many bars are open with temporary licenses or Thai stop Covid passes) and more popular tourist destinations like Cha-am and Ayutthaya allowing drinking at restaurants. Pattaya, the third most visited tourism destination in Thailand (and in 2019 with nearly ten million visitors, the 19th in the world), world-famous for its nightlife, remains under a widely unpopular alcohol ban, hurting thousands of restaurant and hotel sales and keeping hundreds of bars and nightlife venues closed, keeping an estimated 40,000 people out of work according to local tourism associations. Pattaya isn’t alone, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai have also remained under legal bans on alcohol as well, despite being fellow tourist zones, and have faced similar protests from business owners. Mr. Sinchai Wattanasart, a hotel operator in Pattaya who has been part of several major meetings with dozens of upset major hotel, tourism, and restaurant operators in Pattaya, told the associated Thai press, “We need to be allowed alcohol sales in this tourism “high season” (December) as many foreign and domestic tourists are still visiting Pattaya. However, tourists are surprised to find alcohol sales are not legal here in any hotel, restaurant, or bar except for 7-11 and supermarkets. Bars and nightlife remain closed in Pattaya which is famous for its nighttime economy, driving many people to other cities and provinces that have had “exceptions” like Bangkok, Samui, Krabi, and Phuket. We have not been given a reason for Pattaya, highly reliant on nightlife and entertainment, for not being granted the same exception despite many please for a logical, sensible reason why the closure remains. Pattaya’s mayor estimated the city at around 85% fully vaccinated against Covid-19 recently, there is no reason vaccination wise we are not ready to open.” “The current rules are not fair when restaurants are not allowed to serve alcohol while shops outside are allowed to sell alcohol. During recent festivals, many restaurants watched thousands of people purchasing alcohol from convenience stores and drinking in public areas because we could not sell to them legally at our licensed, safe venues with fully vaccinated staff and many health measures. We do not agree with the order that does not allow alcohol sale in restaurants and the government is not giving financial aid for this ban and closure at this time.” “We are finding our way to push for this issue and we will keep pushing on this until we are allowed or given a sensible, logical, reason why Pattaya remains banned. We understand concerns on giant nightlife venues like nightclubs from the government, but why punish every single sector over this? Why not make sensible separations allowing restaurants and hotels to sell as a start and move forward from there? The current ban is hurting EVERY sector in Pattaya, not just bars. This isn’t about the red-light district or nightlife. Complete bans on alcohol are causing tourists to skip the entire city and stay in Bangkok, Phuket, or elsewhere that has an exception to sell, which hurts all business owners, even those who don’t sell alcohol, in Pattaya.” Sinchai explained. Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/02/pattaya-entertainment-and-tourism-operators-vow-to-keep-pushing-to-allow-alcohol-sales-at-least-at-restaurants-and-hotels/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-12-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1
clivebaxter Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Looks like the walking dead street in that picture, hope it stays that way 1 5
Popular Post fangless Posted December 2, 2021 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The current rules are not fair when restaurants are not allowed to serve alcohol while shops outside are allowed to sell alcohol. During recent festivals, many restaurants watched thousands of people purchasing alcohol from convenience stores and drinking in public areas because we could not sell to them legally at our licensed, safe venues with fully vaccinated staff and many health measures. We do not agree with the order that does not allow alcohol sale in restaurants and the government is not giving financial aid for this ban and closure at this time.” The above sums it up. Where is the logic for the bans in some places and not in others? PS; I understand that logic in Thailand is an oxymoron! 3
fangless Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, clivebaxter said: Looks like the walking dead street in that picture, hope it stays that way Why? 1
Popular Post bbko Posted December 2, 2021 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2021 50 minutes ago, clivebaxter said: Looks like the walking dead street in that picture, hope it stays that way Yeah, Why? I get it that Walking Street isn't for everyone, but to hope it stays closed makes no sense. You don't like it? Fine don't visit it. 8 2
In Full Agreement Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, clivebaxter said: Looks like the walking dead street in that picture, hope it stays that way Do you sincerely want to see so many being homeless and out of work? Isn't that a pretty harsh attitude? 1 1
Popular Post smedly Posted December 2, 2021 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: We have not been given a reason for Pattaya, highly reliant on nightlife and entertainment, for not being granted the same exception despite many please for a logical, sensible reason why the closure remains. Pattaya’s mayor estimated the city at around 85% fully vaccinated against Covid-19 recently, there is no reason vaccination wise we are not ready to open.” “The current rules are not fair since Pattaya is now a blue zone this nonsense sits with the goveror of Chonburi and possibly the mayor of Pattaya - nobody understnads why they are doing this and they have given no rational reason - this sort of stupidity will result in defiance - rules work and people comply when they make sense - none of this makes sense - I suspect that corruption is at the heart of what is going on - no surprise there, if they don't make changes soon then they will loose public support It would be interesting to know the business connections to an area that that has been breaking rules fot months and not a thing is done about it ..............................Treetown and one 7/11 across the road - I suspect ownership of these two businesses will reveal exactly what is going on and why - someone in a position of influence is making a lot of money 5
ArcticFox Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 The government will continue to tell them to bite a rock and that the New Normal is government mandated morality and an end to evil alcohol - at least for the common folk.
Taboo2 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Tell them to go to the Chinese Embassy....they run the show in Pattaya.
nightfox Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Hope these bar owners grow some balls and actually protest with some force in front of uncle Prayut doors like the democracy protests in Bangkok and fight for their livelihood instead of petitioning like school girls. Yes I know its a Junta government and they will get shot and arrested, but if the message not getting through then try another way. 2 1
WEBBYB808 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, bbko said: Yeah, Why? I get it that Walking Street isn't for everyone, but to hope it stays closed makes no sense. You don't like it? Fine don't visit it. Perhaps he sees it for the over inflated over priced , tourist extortion zone in Pattaya, that others see it as! It could be regulated better during the non covid times. Edited December 2, 2021 by WEBBYB808
fangless Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, WEBBYB808 said: Perhaos he sees it for the over inflated over priced , tourist extortion zone in Pattaya, that others see it as! It could be regulated better during the non covid times. The above may well be true but it is still not sufficient reason to wish it permanently shut and thus depriving not just those working in walking street a livelihood but all the others that benefit from the visitors that walking street customers brings to the Pattaya region in general. PS; I personally do not like the area and do not live nearby or visit Pattaya so I have no vested interest in the area directly! 1
Gsxrnz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 There is a a saying that any society is only three (missing) meals away from revolt. Unfortunately and very surprisingly this is apparently not true of missing alcohol. What is the world coming to. If the bar owners simply decided to revolt and opened en masse, what can the government do? Virtually nothing. I for one would support the revolting bar owners and as I do have a penchant for observing the gogo bar Pattaya two-step, I'd be especially supportive of the revolting gogo girls.
hotchilli Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Pattaya entertainment and tourism operators have vowed to keep pushing to allow alcohol sales in restaurants, hotels, and allowing the legal reopening of venues, even after Chonburi’s communicable disease committee declined to ease the alcohol rules when they released their most recent orders around Covid-19 restrictions last night, December 1st. Prayut I'm convinced has ulterior motives for Pattaya, While Phuket boasts it's staying open all night New Years Eve is just rubbing salt into the wound. Edited December 3, 2021 by hotchilli 1
Hanuman2547 Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 12 hours ago, clivebaxter said: Looks like the walking dead street in that picture, hope it stays that way Why? Many people are dependent upon that area to provide for their families and others. It may not be the place for everyone, including me, but others do enjoy visiting that area of Pattaya. 1
Jumbo1968 Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Gsxrnz said: There is a a saying that any society is only three (missing) meals away from revolt. Unfortunately and very surprisingly this is apparently not true of missing alcohol. What is the world coming to. If the bar owners simply decided to revolt and opened en masse, what can the government do? Virtually nothing. I for one would support the revolting bar owners and as I do have a penchant for observing the gogo bar Pattaya two-step, I'd be especially supportive of the revolting gogo girls. I think if they did that certain bars probably farang owned ones would be targeted and raided and an example made of the owners to discourage others.
Gsxrnz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: I think if they did that certain bars probably farang owned ones would be targeted and raided and an example made of the owners to discourage others. Martyrdom for a just cause is surely a virtue.
wombat Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said: Martyrdom for a just cause is surely a virtue. And virtue is a grace. Grace is just a silly girl who wouldn't wash her face. 1
Jumbo1968 Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said: Martyrdom for a just cause is surely a virtue. Can’t disagree but not in this day and age more so I can’t see many farang bar owners wanting their licence, refused, fined and possibly jailed.
wombat Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 15 hours ago, In Full Agreement said: Do you sincerely want to see so many being homeless and out of work? Isn't that a pretty harsh attitude? i think he writes like one who thought his was different and got rinsed. 1
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 16 hours ago, smedly said: I suspect that corruption is at the heart of what is going on - no surprise there, if they don't make changes soon then they will loose public support They are a mafia, they do what they want, don't need public support.
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: Prayut I'm convinced has ulterior motives for Pattaya, EASTERN ECONOMIC CORRIDOR. Again: multi-billion dollar investment, enshrined in constitution, 20-year plan, Utapao expansion, high speed rail line, cruise ship terminals, etc, etc, etc. There's billions at stake here, Pattaya is a blot on that copybook and will bend to their 'World class family resort' ambitions along with all the other plans. 1
Caldera Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Keep up the good fight! That restaurants in Pattaya cannot serve alcohol, while those in Bangkok have been allowed to do so for many weeks, is completely ridiculous. Clearly nothing to do with Covid, which exists in Bangkok as well. 1
paulikens Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 should have kicked up a fuss 18 months ago. som nam nah
MrTravkin Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Is this officially confirmed ? https://www.facebook.com/StickboyPattaya Quote Good news for Pattaya... SHA+ certified restaurants can sell alcohol at the following times: 11am - 2pm 5pm - 11pm The order is effective immediately.
natway09 Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Bit surprised that Mr Plod & the bar owners cannot just sort it amongst themselves like parts of Bangkok. Both are winners
In Full Agreement Posted December 6, 2021 Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) On 12/3/2021 at 10:22 PM, natway09 said: Bit surprised that Mr Plod & the bar owners cannot just sort it amongst themselves like parts of Bangkok. Both are winners Winners or whiners? ???? Edited December 6, 2021 by In Full Agreement
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