Thai Covid-19 vaccine to be adjusted to better fight against Omicron

[webfact]

 

Researchers will adjust Thailand’s first plant-based Covid-19 vaccine to fight against the Omicron variant.

 

Co-founder and chief technology officer of Baiya Phytopharm Dr. Waranyu Pooncharoen said that the first generation of Baiya Covid-19 vaccine has already been injected in volunteers aged between 18 and 60. So far there are no reports of any severe side effects, and researchers are waiting for more results before testing the second generation of the vaccine on volunteers next month.

 

Dr. Waranyu stated that researchers are currently testing the vaccine's efficacy in animals infected with the Omicron variant and will modify the vaccine's protein formula to make it more responsive to the new variant.

 

He assured that the process will be quick because only parts of the tobacco gene will need to be changed, while the manufacturing process will remain largely unchanged.

 

The company plans to produce the vaccine in Asia’s first plant-based factory located in Chulalongkorn University. The facility can produce up to 5 million doses per month, or up to 60 million doses per year. The vaccine is expected to be available by the end of 2022.

 

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[starky]

So many things I could say, mostly involving swearing and a long suspension so instead I will just say, yeah right. 

[daveAustin]

 

37 minutes ago, webfact said:

Researchers will adjust Thailand’s first plant-based Covid-19 vaccine

Add some more SingHaa beer to him lol. 

Edited December 10, 2021 by daveAustin

[nausea]

Some are calling Omicron a live vaccine, because of its apparent mild effects. That would be bad news for pharma and control freaks. It's all anecdotal so far though. Time will tell, I suppose.

[cyril sneer]

10 minutes ago, nausea said:

Some are calling Omicron a live vaccine, because of its apparent mild effects. That would be bad news for pharma and control freaks. It's all anecdotal so far though. Time will tell, I suppose.

I’m sure they’re already working on a new strain 

[Blumpie]

This is thai time with thai logic.  

It's really nice of you to print this but it doubles every three days.  So, in essence, you are already hooped.  

 

But hey, thanks for the offer you smart people you.  

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Researchers will adjust Thailand’s first plant-based Covid-19 vaccine to fight against the Omicron variant.

Always ahead of the game... go Thailand.

[jacko45k]

I would expect this to happen. Vaccinations evolve as does the  virus. 

[Bkk Brian]

Pointless carrying on with the original formula if this Omicron is predicted by all experts to be the dominant variant. The same goes for the other mnra vaccines they are developing. 

 

Results in the UK have now been released on the Vaccine effectiveness from symptomatic infection with Omicron and its not good, zero for AZ and 30% for Pfizer.

 

VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS (symptomatic infection) *caveat: early estimates* Real-world surveillance data shows a significant reduction in VE for Omicron vs Delta * 2x AZ, VE is ZERO * 2x Pfizer, VE is ~30% BUT! Boosters increase VE to 70-75% (Pfizer, in the 1st month)

 

It is too early to measure protection against severe disease, but with earlier variants protection against hospitalisation & death has been largely preserved. All hoping this holds true

 

 

[SunsetT]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pointless carrying on with the original formula if this Omicron is predicted by all experts to be the dominant variant. The same goes for the other mnra vaccines they are developing. 

 

Results in the UK have now been released on the Vaccine effectiveness from symptomatic infection with Omicron and its not good, zero for AZ and 30% for Pfizer.

 

VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS (symptomatic infection) *caveat: early estimates* Real-world surveillance data shows a significant reduction in VE for Omicron vs Delta * 2x AZ, VE is ZERO * 2x Pfizer, VE is ~30% BUT! Boosters increase VE to 70-75% (Pfizer, in the 1st month)

 

It is too early to measure protection against severe disease, but with earlier variants protection against hospitalisation & death has been largely preserved. All hoping this holds true

 

 

Links please or it remains hearsay/fake news.

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Links please or it remains hearsay/fake news.

Link is there in the underlined text.....lol

[SunsetT]

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Link is there in the underlined text.....lol

OK. I apologise....BUT.... this link also states: " *caveat: early estimates* "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meaghan Kall

 

@kallmemeg

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11h

 

 

 

[chilly07]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pointless carrying on with the original formula if this Omicron is predicted by all experts to be the dominant variant. The same goes for the other mnra vaccines they are developing. 

 

Results in the UK have now been released on the Vaccine effectiveness from symptomatic infection with Omicron and its not good, zero for AZ and 30% for Pfizer.

 

VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS (symptomatic infection) *caveat: early estimates* Real-world surveillance data shows a significant reduction in VE for Omicron vs Delta * 2x AZ, VE is ZERO * 2x Pfizer, VE is ~30% BUT! Boosters increase VE to 70-75% (Pfizer, in the 1st month)

 

It is too early to measure protection against severe disease, but with earlier variants protection against hospitalisation & death has been largely preserved. All hoping this holds true

 

 

Not that I believe anything on Twitter but you have even chosen to select an alarmist extract from an unnatributed tweet.

Protection against Omicron SYMPTOMS from AZ is not zero and neither is it 30pc from Pfizer. No vaccine protects from infection. They just reduce the risk of hospitalization and both vaccines do that against Omicron.

Nevertheless boosters after 3 and 6 mths top up effectiveness against Omicron SYMPTOMS to the same level as Delta

[trainman34014]

The Thai Vaccine will be ready after all the High Speed Railways have been built connecting every Town/City in Thailand and with International City's all over Asia; so that distribution of the Vaccine can be Transported at High Speed wherever it is required !!

[Kadilo]

13 minutes ago, chilly07 said:

Not that I believe anything on Twitter but you have even chosen to select an alarmist extract from an unnatributed tweet.

 

So basically fake news. 

[Bkk Brian]

25 minutes ago, chilly07 said:

Not that I believe anything on Twitter but you have even chosen to select an alarmist extract from an unnatributed tweet.

Protection against Omicron SYMPTOMS from AZ is not zero and neither is it 30pc from Pfizer. No vaccine protects from infection. They just reduce the risk of hospitalization and both vaccines do that against Omicron.

Nevertheless boosters after 3 and 6 mths top up effectiveness against Omicron SYMPTOMS to the same level as Delta

Note this refers to "symptomatic protection" not infection

 

Its not an unattributed tweet, its part of a thread  by a UK Epidemiologist who works for the UK Health Security Agency and starts by linking to the actual source, try doing a little more than reading headlines......here is your source however its pdf for download https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1040076/Technical_Briefing_31.pdf

 

The BBC reports also on this report however you can find that I'm sure....................

 

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

So basically fake news. 

Better ask the UK gov on that. Link above provided

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, SunsetT said:

OK. I apologise....BUT.... this link also states: " *caveat: early estimates* "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meaghan Kall

 

@kallmemeg

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11h

 

 

 

Of course, don't all reports have caveats. Same as they said its too early to predict what effect this has on protection from serious disease or death but they are hopefull

[kimamey]

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pointless carrying on with the original formula if this Omicron is predicted by all experts to be the dominant variant. The same goes for the other mnra vaccines they are developing. 

 

Results in the UK have now been released on the Vaccine effectiveness from symptomatic infection with Omicron and its not good, zero for AZ and 30% for Pfizer.

 

VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS (symptomatic infection) *caveat: early estimates* Real-world surveillance data shows a significant reduction in VE for Omicron vs Delta * 2x AZ, VE is ZERO * 2x Pfizer, VE is ~30% BUT! Boosters increase VE to 70-75% (Pfizer, in the 1st month)

 

It is too early to measure protection against severe disease, but with earlier variants protection against hospitalisation & death has been largely preserved. All hoping this holds true

 

 

I think the latest research suggests that 2 shots aren't that effective but after a 3rd it works much better. 

 

I'm using my phone right now but once I get on my laptop I'll try to find a link. 

Now I've looked again I think others may have already mentored this. 

Edited December 11, 2021 by kimamey

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, kimamey said:

I think the latest research suggests that 2 shots aren't that effective but after a 3rd it works much better. 

 

I'm using my phone right now but once I get on my laptop I'll try to find a link. 

Now I've looked again I think others may have already mentored this. 

Yes sure thats correct and has been demonstrated with plenty of studies but never with Omicron, although the report confirmed, taking a third Pfizer shot brings immunity levels back up to 75% in the first month, after a month its not known yet as more time needed with Omicron. However they did not mention the percentage for AZ.

Edited December 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[kimamey]

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes sure thats correct and has been demonstrated with plenty of studies but never with Omicron, although the report confirmed, taking a third Pfizer shot brings immunity levels back up to 75% in the first month, after a month its not known yet as more time needed with Omicron. However they did not mention the percentage for AZ.

I was looking at this which does reference Omicron but you're right that it's still early days with this variant.

 

4https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/two-jabs-give-less-protection-against-catching-omicron-than-delta-uk-data-shows

 

There's also this.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59619224

[kimamey]

9 hours ago, nausea said:

Some are calling Omicron a live vaccine, because of its apparent mild effects. That would be bad news for pharma and control freaks. It's all anecdotal so far though. Time will tell, I suppose.

There's more to a virus than just how deadly it is.

 

Ebola, SARS ect were far more deadly but didn't cause the problems that Covid has because they didn't spread as easily. It looks as if Omicron might not be so likely to cause death or hospitalisation but it does transmit more easily so in the end it may cause more admissions to hospital. That could overwhelm hospitals and bring about delays in other life saving treatment which could lead to deaths that aren't directly due to Covid.