Sure Miss the Chiang Mai Public Buses….

[SamSanuk]

So convenient for comfortable cheap travel!
 

From my hotel, one way to Central Airport or Central Festival, with myriad of places to stop along the way, all for 20 baht.

 

Plus a great vantage point for people watching along the way.

 

 I’m surprised they aren’t running again. ???? 

[chuang]

Because they were running at a loss...if increase price there will be outcry especially from the farangs..

[SamSanuk]

1 hour ago, chuang said:

Because they were running at a loss...if increase price there will be outcry especially from the farangs..

Shame really as many locals took advantage as well. 
 

Maybe CM City should subsidize? 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, chuang said:

Because they were running at a loss...if increase price there will be outcry especially from the farangs..

Didnt they stop running when Covid emerged and that's their reason for now currently not running ?

  (Also, they wouldn't be an outcry from felangs if the price was increased) 

[SamSanuk]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Didnt they stop running when Covid emerged and that's their reason for now currently not running ?

  (Also, they wouldn't be an outcry from felangs if the price was increased) 

That’s what I thought. But air travel can’t be much better for confined spaces.

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, chuang said:

Because they were running at a loss...if increase price there will be outcry especially from the farangs..

I remember that they did increase to 30 baht at one time

 

 

 

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, SamSanuk said:

Shame really as many locals took advantage as well. 
 

Maybe CM City should subsidize? 

CM should really have a bus system similar to Bangkok which is affordable and convenient. The red taxis and tuk-tuk are ripoff and not many locals take these.

 

The amount of motorcyclists during peak hours is terrible now, more people should use cheap public transport.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by EricTh

[SamSanuk]

11 minutes ago, EricTh said:

CM should really have a bus system similar to Bangkok which is affordable and convenient. The red taxis and tuk-tuk are ripoff and not many locals take these.

 

The amount of motorcyclists during peak hours is terrible now, more people should use cheap public transport.

 

 

 

 

Plus there is something pleasant about hopping aboard a bus and not having to explain where you are going.
 

Also, The Bus is perfect for riding along and then just hopping off whenever the mood strikes. On the bus to Central Festival, which weaved through some neighborhoods, I would just hop out and take a stroll. 

[sqwakvfr]

I still have money left on the prepaid Rabbit Card.  It was pleasant to take the bus from the aIrport to Kad Susan Kaew for 20 Baht. Doubt they will come back.  The Blue Buses were full size and probably expensive to operate.  

[Oxx]

16 hours ago, EricTh said:

CM should really have a bus system similar to Bangkok

I thought the air pollution in Chiang Mai was bad enough already, without having the black smoke belching buses of Bangkok.

[placnx]

5 hours ago, Oxx said:

I thought the air pollution in Chiang Mai was bad enough already, without having the black smoke belching buses of Bangkok.

Maybe some day we can get electric buses in Chiang Mai and perhaps limit regular vehicle traffic in some areas.

[Greenwich Boy]

I liked the buses for the convenience. I dislike the faff around getting a songtaew unless you just want a very short trip. I tried to get one from the train station to Maya last week. I got the full list of excuses

Nimman very busy (I asked for Kad Rincome Huay Kaew)

Cant leave yet, not enough customers.

Very long way.

100B but must drop other customers first.

I was not expecting a 30B ride but you do wonder if it worth the effort.

I walked round the corner, got a Grab for 90B

[SamSanuk]

4 hours ago, placnx said:

Maybe some day we can get electric buses in Chiang Mai and perhaps limit regular vehicle traffic in some areas.

Ideal but “some day” may be years away.
 

Although I once thought they should shut down the sois off Nimmenhaimen for a walking street experience. 

 

Sidenote: saw an EV tuk tuk today. Progress! ????

[nglodnig]

4 hours ago, placnx said:

Chiang Mai and perhaps limit regular vehicle traffic in some areas

Perhaps I can sleep with Catherine Zeta-Jones ???? 

[SamSanuk]

45 minutes ago, nglodnig said:

Perhaps I can sleep with Catherine Zeta-Jones ???? 

THAT could stop traffic! ????

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 hours ago, Oxx said:

I thought the air pollution in Chiang Mai was bad enough already, without having the black smoke belching buses of Bangkok.

They were new air con buses in CM , didnt cause much exhaust pollution 

[fangless]

10 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Was driving to CM immig today for extension and saw a couple of backpackers waiting at one of the bus stops--i doubled back to ask if waiting for those buses--they were....

 

I managed to get them in a red truck for same price after 1st driver wanted 50 bt each and i told him no way--as soon as I flagged another truck he changed his tune--- but fool me once!!!    nope!!!!

Well done!! ✔

[SamSanuk]

11 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Was driving to CM immig today for extension and saw a couple of backpackers waiting at one of the bus stops--i doubled back to ask if waiting for those buses--they were....

 

I managed to get them in a red truck for same price after 1st driver wanted 50 bt each and i told him no way--as soon as I flagged another truck he changed his tune--- but fool me once!!!    nope!!!!

Good job!  
 

My favorite songthaew scam is no change. 30 baht ride, give them 40, no change, sorry.
 

Another reason why I love the buses and grab.

[The Hammer2021]

On 12/15/2021 at 11:51 AM, chuang said:

Because they were running at a loss...if increase price there will be outcry especially from the farangs..

'Farangs' as you call them have zero influence on such matters. You are not important.

[The Hammer2021]

14 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Correct as I can speak survival thai and I told this driver it clearly says 30 baht on truck!!! He was even going towards airport from CM gate on outer side....he moaned it was ALL the way to airport--so i said fine--leave.....I flagged another one of MANY red trucks and oh how quick he changed his tune---but too late--fool me once.....the good guy who took the 30x2 rate gets the money---good riddance jerk....

Are you discussing trying to cheat a poverty stricken Thai guy out of 10 baht!?

[SamSanuk]

10 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Are you discussing trying to cheat a poverty stricken Thai guy out of 10 baht!?

I can’t speak for the author but there are other ways to look at these moments.
 

In tough times, don’t try and squeeze your customer for more baht. Do a good job at the advertised price. Sometimes it IS the principal.

 

(Once I was stuck in the cold rain waiting for a red truck. A 30 baht trip I’ve taken before. A red truck stopped and said 70 baht. We negotiated to 50. Not the nicest experience in CM.)

Edited December 18, 2021 by SamSanuk

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Not when it clearly says 30 bt on the side of his truck and he was heading that direction

 

He could have just said no......but chose to almost double it--maybe u can set up a gofundme for him

 

Curious as to how you know he is poverty stricken......should I have him give you a call?    Line ID?

 

So I guess the next red truck guy that took them to airport for the 30 bt each is living the hiso life????

The price is 30 Baht if you are willing for him to pick up and drop other passengers off , which could mean a long detour around the city , if you want him to take you directly to your location without picking up or dropping off other passengers , you negotiate the price 

[NancyL]

I, too, miss the CM buses.  They were becoming popular with Thai people, esp it seemed, working women who didn't want to bother with a motorscooter in traffic as a way to get to work.  Much more convenient to sit in aircon comfort and safely play on your phone.  The routes to/from the McCormick Hospital area from the Kad Suan Kaew side of town always seemed to be full during shift change time with working women and school kids.

 

Hubby loved them as a way to see the city, sometimes getting off at a random stop to explore a new (to him) neighborhood.  

 

It would be nice if they returned.  We, too, still have money on our Rabbit cards.

[EricTh]

On 12/19/2021 at 11:26 AM, NancyL said:

I, too, miss the CM buses.  They were becoming popular with Thai people, esp it seemed, working women who didn't want to bother with a motorscooter in traffic as a way to get to work.  Much more convenient to sit in aircon comfort and safely play on your phone.  The routes to/from the McCormick Hospital area from the Kad Suan Kaew side of town always seemed to be full during shift change time with working women and school kids.

 

Hubby loved them as a way to see the city, sometimes getting off at a random stop to explore a new (to him) neighborhood.  

 

It would be nice if they returned.  We, too, still have money on our Rabbit cards.

 

Can't you get a refund for the balance on your Rabbit card?

 

There must be a reason why they stopped the buses.

 

 

 

[fangless]

1 hour ago, EricTh said:

There must be a reason why they stopped the buses.

Maybe something to do with COVID and no customers!

????

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, fangless said:

Maybe something to do with COVID and no customers!

????

Partly true but I would think that the tuk-tuk and Song Taew somehow protested/complained to the authorities because the buses were eating away some of their income. They didn't want cheap transport for the tourists.

Chiang Mai had once planned to build a BTS train system like that in Bangkok several years ago but due to protests by the Song Taew/Tuk-Tuk group, the project was cancelled.

Edited December 23, 2021 by EricTh

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/18/2021 at 3:42 AM, The Hammer2021 said:

Are you discussing trying to cheat a poverty stricken Thai guy out of 10 baht!?

The price is 30 baht, not 40. Who voluntarily pays more than the proper price?

[Sparkles]

On 12/23/2021 at 11:12 PM, EricTh said:

Partly true but I would think that the tuk-tuk and Song Taew somehow protested/complained to the authorities because the buses were eating away some of their income. They didn't want cheap transport for the tourists.

Chiang Mai had once planned to build a BTS train system like that in Bangkok several years ago but due to protests by the Song Taew/Tuk-Tuk group, the project was cancelled.

Chiang Mai was never going to build a BTS system, nothing to do with protests. The population doesn't warrant the huge expenditure unlike Bangkok where the population is over 10 million. Unlike CM Bangkok roads are choked with traffic and it was the only option along with underground rail which is equally popular.

 

That is not my opinion it was relayed to me by a local CM Gov official. Some were also floating the idea of a BTS type service from the Night Safari down Canal Rd to the City, that too was just "kite flying". The small bus service that travelled from near Bantawai to the City down Hang Dong Rd has also disappeared

 

When we moved here some 17 odd years ago there was a bus service launched and there was a protest from the Songteaw /Tuk Tuk Mafia as they were known .I think City Life covered that in an article. The fact is Thai for decades have relied on Songteaw's and Tuk Tuks to get around the city and old habits are hard to break. The buses were not well supported and finished up  being left in a compound near Global House and then disappeared probably as scrap metal or sold to Cambodia ????

Then along came the blue buses. Yes they were comfortable and useful for some but far too big and buses half the size and cost, meaning a more frequent timetable, would have helped. Meanwhile Songteaw's went past people waiting every minute. While some trips had passengers many had as few as 2 or 3 passengers. A friend who still has a business on the set route remarked to me that as he watched them going past more or less empty how long would they continue ? Loss of tourists who used them to get to the airport killed them off. They too are probably in a compound somewhere.

 

Cars and motor bikes are still king, especially for the 1,000's that live in hundreds of Mooban's south ,north and east of the city. We are regular visitors to Worrowat Market and for 30 baht we can park on site but there's always a line of Songteaw's and Tuk Tuk's servicing those that don't have their own transport.

 

The solution and I can't believe it  has not been discussed, by those who make these decisions, or maybe it has, is to have a fleet of electric people movers such as used by CMU, RAM and Sriphat Hospital. CM City being dead flat is perfect for such a vehicle, quiet, no pollution and easy to get on and off. They in time could replace the smoke belching Songteaw's and would be financially viable but don't hold you breath that anything will change any time soon. 

 

 

 

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, Sparkles said:

Chiang Mai was never going to build a BTS system, nothing to do with protests. 

This statement is grossly incorrect.

 

There was some official news articles several years ago about the train system and protests but I can't find it now. I read Thailand news almost everyday for the past x years.

 

Just because one 'government official' told you that doesn't mean anything. Most government officials don't know anything aside from their job duties. I have different government officials telling me contradicting 'facts' all the time.

 

The only story that is true come from the top government official and not any ordinary govt official.

Edited December 26, 2021 by EricTh

[hml367]

Maybe you can find something here:   https://futuresoutheastasia.com/chiang-mai-mass-transit/

 

or here:    http://2bangkok.com/2bangkok-MassTransit-ChiangMain.shtml

 

probably some even earlier than these