Female Russian tourist claims assault at Koh Samui viewpoint - Thai manager cites self defence

[JustAnotherHun]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where's the video?

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/tourist-says-man-assaulted-her-after-she-refused-to-pay-50-baht-for-koh-samui-viewpoint

[The Hammer2021]

3 hours ago, seajae said:

so he had built a bridge without the land owners permission and was charging people to go onto their private land that the owners knew nothing about then attacked a female when she refused to pay  him, doesnt matter what the female did, this man was doing something totally illegal in the first place by charging people to access someone elses land, he should have to pay all her costs as well as restitutuion and also give all the money he had charged everyone to go onto the land to the land owners seeing he did not have their permission to do so

A poverty stricken  Thai was showing showing gumption, initiative  and offering  unique service  for a paltry sum and some entitled, spoilt  tourist ruined it all for a few kopeks.

[Daithi85]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where's the video?

On facebook, go to the search box and put in ko Samui Russian tourist. 

 

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

A poverty stricken  Thai was showing showing gumption, initiative  and offering  unique service  for a paltry sum and some entitled, spoilt  tourist ruined it all for a few kopeks.

Russians are as poor as Thais.

Edited January 6, 2022 by BritManToo

[JustAnotherHun]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Russians are as poor as Thais.

555

[Hans Johnson]

Same game with public toilets etc. 

[Bluespunk]

51 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

that is not on the video.

The video shows the tourist being hit by a chair but not who threw it. 

[Bluespunk]

44 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where's the video?

If you click on the daily news link that’s in the OP, there is a video there at the end of the article. It’s mostly the guy who is accused of assault giving his version of events, all but a few words in Thai.

 

 

[roo860]

46 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/tourist-says-man-assaulted-her-after-she-refused-to-pay-50-baht-for-koh-samui-viewpoint

The translation is brilliant!????????

[Daithi85]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The story I see is her screeching, and him throwing a chair at her.

The video I seen she seems to be the one in attack mode. 

[cocoonclub]

Thais rarely just attack you for nothing. People tend to mind their business and control their emotions. Attacks usually happen after things have been escalated. Even more in this case here, with 50 other tourists already having entered and paid without an issue, why would the guy suddenly attack this couple out of nothing instead of asking them to pay the entry fee as he did with the 50 other tourists before them? 
 

So without anyone knowing what happened, my bet is on the couple acting like the entitled farangs some of us are when traveling here and refusing to pay. 

[LittleCobra]

1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:

She said she was with her BF. Did he try to do anything?

He is her husband. He was trying to stop the concert she was performing as was afraid of being arrested in the end. But she kept pushing him to protect her and fight the Thai man, which her husband kept refusing to do. In the end she said she will divorce him as soon as they get back home. 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, cocoonclub said:

Thais rarely just attack you for nothing. People tend to mind their business and control their emotions. Attacks usually happen after things have been escalated. Even more in this case here, with 50 other tourists already having entered and paid without an issue, why would the guy suddenly attack this couple out of nothing instead of asking them to pay the entry fee as he did with the 50 other tourists before them? 
 

So without anyone knowing what happened, my bet is on the couple acting like the entitled farangs some of us are when traveling here and refusing to pay. 

I too would bet the ‘couple refused to pay’.....  Nothing about being entitled...  but seeing a ‘home made cardboard sign’ does not lend itself to confidence that all is honest and above board. 

 

I would be highly suspicious when someone comes up to me and demands some money and shows me a cardboard sign. 

 

I can imagine a scenario whereby the Thai guy demands payment, the russians refuse thinking he’s trying to scam them and an escalation occurs which involves the Thai guy pushing the woman, snatching her necklace, her pushing him away, him hitting her....etc.....     What did the boyfriend do ???   I’m surprised he didn’t throw the Thai guy off the bridge !!! 

[marioc]

My wild guess:
the girl refused to pay and tried to force her entry. 

The "manager" stopped her and somehow accidentally damaged her precious sunglasses.

(All this maybe happened before the start of the video)

Then the girl complained angrily that the "manager" broke her sunglasses ( at a moment she is showing her boyfriend the damaged items).

Of course the languages difference made the confrontation to escalate.

And here we go.... another interesting day in LOS.

[Liverpool Lou]

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

seeing a ‘home made cardboard sign’ does not lend itself to confidence that all is honest and above board. 

 

I would be highly suspicious when someone comes up to me and demands some money and shows me a cardboard sign. 

On private property the state of the sign stating an entry fee is irrelevant, it's private property, if they don't like it they can always bu_gger off.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

What did the boyfriend do ???   I’m surprised he didn’t throw the Thai guy off the bridge !!! 

Maybe he realised, rationally, that his wife, screaming like a demented fish wife, was in the wrong! 

[GrandPapillon]

paying 50 THB for 2 stones that are not worth of a visit, tourists in Thailand are really easy marks, no wonder some "dodgy" guy put together that scam. Probably a squatter in the first place, that was given some tips by visiting tourists and thought of making a business ????

[Pravda]

I wouldn't cross that bridge if they paid me

[Kinnock]

It takes two to tango, and that was one unseemly tango.

 

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Russians are as poor as Thais.

Not the ones I know and not tourists flying to Thailand! If she can't budget for minimal sightseeing expenses then she shouldn't  fly to Koh Samui!

[Orinoco]

50 minutes ago, cocoonclub said:

People tend to mind their business and control their emotions. 

Ok, right on, !!!!!! 

[richard_smith237]

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

40 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

seeing a ‘home made cardboard sign’ does not lend itself to confidence that all is honest and above board. 

 

I would be highly suspicious when someone comes up to me and demands some money and shows me a cardboard sign. 

On private property the state of the sign stating an entry fee is irrelevant, it's private property, if they don't like it they can always bu_gger off.

 

The ’state of the sign’ is very relevant....       scribble on a piece of cardboard is hardly the makings of an official tourist attraction....   Yet, this place is being ‘peddled as a tourist attraction’.... 

 

Make an official sign, make it ‘look right’ and the clumsiness and suspicion is removed. 

 

As someone else mentioned - this is similar to those guys who hang around area’s of ‘disused land’ near markets etc and charge people a ‘parking fee’..... the reality is the parking fee is just a ‘pay off’ so they don’t damage your car (this is widely known). 

 

 

 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

A lost battle is not a lost war - manager continues business as usual in few days and increases entrance to pay back police and hospital lol.

Edited January 6, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[richard_smith237]

10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Not the ones I know and not tourists flying to Thailand! If she can't budget for minimal sightseeing expenses then she shouldn't  fly to Koh Samui!

You may have missed the the point....  People who argue about these things are rarely concerned with the cost and more concerned about principle. 

 

 

I can readily afford the entrance fee to National Parks but refuse to go on the basis of dual pricing. 

That said: I paid the Thai Price on Samet. 

Recently, I entered a national park with a group of Thai’s (I didn’t know it was national park), they paid my 400 baht (while they paid 40 baht) and didn’t tell me as they were so embarrassed.... 

 

 

In a nation not known for its honesty towards tourists, its perfectly understandable that some would get suspicious about someone who has made a cardboard sign to try and charge or even scam some money out of tourists. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

5 hours ago, seajae said:

so he had built a bridge without the land owners permission and was charging people to go onto their private land that the owners knew nothing about then attacked a female when she refused to pay  him, doesnt matter what the female did, this man was doing something totally illegal in the first place by charging people to access someone elses land, he should have to pay all her costs as well as restitutuion and also give all the money he had charged everyone to go onto the land to the land owners seeing he did not have their permission to do so

Nah..You don't  understand that these services  are what makes Thailand  fun! It's a good job you don't live here  and it's a pity tourists like her don't  understand  the informal  rules of behaviour  here.

[The Hammer2021]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You may have missed the the point....  People who argue about these things are rarely concerned with the cost and more concerned about principle. 

 

 

I can readily afford the entrance fee to National Parks but refuse to go on the basis of dual pricing. 

That said: I paid the Thai Price on Samet. 

Recently, I entered a national park with a group of Thai’s (I didn’t know it was national park), they paid my 400 baht (while they paid 40 baht) and didn’t tell me as they were so embarrassed.... 

 

 

In a nation not known for its honesty towards tourists, its perfectly understandable that some would get suspicious about someone who has made a cardboard sign to try and charge or even scam some money out of tourists. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Principled people can still pay and demonstrate their moral purity in other ways. Principles included generosity  of spirit, respecting local, and respecting  elderly people. If her 'Principles' lead her to ignore so many conventions of behaviour  then her Principles are §hìť and of no value. She was just a spoilt awkward  trouble maker.

[JustAnotherHun]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

The video shows the tourist being hit by a chair but not who threw it. 

The video I watched it seems more she picked up the chair and threw it before it came back like a Boomerang.

I don't speak russian. If she told her husband she'd divorce at home, he should be happy ????

Edited January 6, 2022 by JustAnotherHun

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that he used the 50 baht entrance fee mentioned in several languages on a makeshift cardboard sign to pay for the upkeep of the area including the bridge. 

 

At the time of the incident there were 30 others there who paid the fee but two did not creating trouble.

 

The owner of the land told Daily News that they did not know what was going on on their land

His little incidence of greed has just shut down his little perk.

[SchuetzRob]

Nice to see the comments... The 'manager' charged thb 50 per person. At this particular time there were 30 paying tourists. The owner of the land states that he does not know what is going on.

All according to the article. It seems to me that not only the lady is suffering from entitlement syndrome.....

[richard_smith237]

10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Principled people can still pay and demonstrate their moral purity in other ways. Principles included generosity  of spirit, respecting local, and respecting  elderly people. If her 'Principles' lead her to ignore so many conventions of behaviour  then her Principles are §hìť and of no value. She was just a spoilt awkward  trouble maker.

Fair enough... 

 

She clearly handled the situation very poorly.... So did the Thai guy..... 

 

Who ‘triggered who first’ ???....

 

I’ve certainly been the situation where some ‘local’ has come up to me in a very ‘dogged' and somewhat aggressive manner and demanded something, it's usually in tourist areas....   there are stories of such all over the internet. 

 

Or perhaps the woman just figured she was being scammed and refused to pay, thats not exactly surprising here. Then the Thai guy got angry, he was entitled to his money, right ?

 

Did she swear at him, call him something? did he ???

 

One of them trigger the other first - and as another poster said - it takes two to tango.....