Will no one in Thailand take responsibility for my sister? Woman in plea after BTS broken leg

[mancub]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Care to prove that?

Difficult to prove a "likelihood" !

[Ralf001]

Playing on the phone and not looking at where she was walking ?

[DaLa]

God forbid this country becomes as litigious as the Uk or even worse the US. Friend of mine back in the UK wanted to sue the local council because he tripped over a tree root in the pavement. He had lived in the area for 25 years and the tree looked like it had been there 125 years.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, itsari said:

I can see from the photo that the drain cover is not fitting correctly in the concrete opening . 

Quite obvious to me what needs to be done . 

That would apply to most drain covers I've seen. Every Thai would know about them, surely?

[Bluespunk]

24 minutes ago, mancub said:

Difficult to prove a "likelihood" !

But so easy to make the accusation based on nothing eh…

Edited January 29, 2022 by Bluespunk
Removed likely reason for baseless accusation made by first poster quoted

[itsari]

22 minutes ago, DaLa said:

God forbid this country becomes as litigious as the Uk or even worse the US. Friend of mine back in the UK wanted to sue the local council because he tripped over a tree root in the pavement. He had lived in the area for 25 years and the tree looked like it had been there 125 years.

I agree with your comment but the sad thing is you need litigation to have authorities do what is expected of them .

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

I know who is responsible! She is, for walking without looking and breaking her leg. 

So where is your proof then? 

 

Were you at the scene at the time it happened? Did you actually see it happen? Or is it just your thought or your opinion?

[Gottfrid]

36 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So where is your proof then? 

 

Were you at the scene at the time it happened? Did you actually see it happen? Or is it just your thought or your opinion?

So, ok you want to blame the drain system, or maybe even an uncovered hole? Good luck with that! It´s still she that has to look out for where she walk.

[Meat Pie 47]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Broken ankle from tripping would indicate other medical problems.

Bones in young people aren't supposed to be that weak.

Absolutely nonsense I just recoverd from a broken Ankle I slipped on some rubbish left on the street and no medical problems I know about 10 people who had broken ankles some young some old and no one had any medical problems but it is always easy to blame the victim.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, itsari said:

Definite need for improvement in Thailand for taking responsibility for bad maintenance of public areas . 

That's a huge ask considering the state of public areas.

[BritManToo]

59 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Absolutely nonsense I just recoverd from a broken Ankle I slipped on some rubbish left on the street and no medical problems I know about 10 people who had broken ankles some young some old and no one had any medical problems but it is always easy to blame the victim.

But you're not young or healthy!

Old fat guys that never exercise break bones in falls very easily.

Edited January 29, 2022 by BritManToo

[Golden Triangle]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But you're not young or healthy!

Old fat guys that never exercise break bones in falls very easily.

You do type some garbage at times, talk about uneducated.

 

Fractures occur in elderly people because of skeletal fragility. Appendicular fractures are usually precipitated by a fall. Falls account for 90% of hip fractures, and the risk of falling increases with age.

 

[itsari]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

That's a huge ask considering the state of public areas.

Yes, a huge task indeed. 

[digger70]

6 hours ago, yogi yogi said:

i rented a room once.  the door knob broke.  owner made me pay for it. said i broke it.  how about a knob on a sink if it broke do i pay?

Yea for sure. If it breaks while you rent the place it's yours to break and replace.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

So, ok you want to blame the drain system, or maybe even an uncovered hole? Good luck with that! It´s still she that has to look out for where she walk.

I am not blaming anyone. You are.

 

You are saying that it was her fault for not looking.

 

So please answer my simple questions.

 

Were you at the scene at the time it happened? Did you actually see it happen? Or is it just your thought or your opinion?

[JeffersLos]

I'm surprised she didn't just reach out and grab one of the electrical cables to steady herself. 

[Bangkok Barry]

10 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

 

Will no one in Thailand take responsibility for my sister?

In a word............................. "NO"

"Up to you" as they say, sadly !

Just part of the culture. No-one ever responsible for anything. That would mean acting like adults and - gasp, horror - even handing over money as compensation. It would also mean admitting there was a problem in the first place, another no-no in Thailand.

[Bangkok Barry]

10 hours ago, seajae said:

when your face is buried in your phone so you do not watch where you are walking it makes it hard to blame others for your own stupidity, everyone in Thaland knows that drains etc and some are often uncovered so they need to watch where they are going but of course looking at your phone is more important to many as was more than likely the case here and as the drain was covered it meant she was wearing high heals and should have been even more observant, the one responsible is herself, cant blame others for your own lack of observation

 

 

Total <deleted> based on nothing at all other than you thinking the woman might have been on her phone. You also state that the drain was covered. Was it, or is that another one of your fantasies based on no facts at all. I learned very early in my time in Thailand never to step on any cover as they are often unstable.

[Bangkok Barry]

8 hours ago, Lakegeneve said:

Nothing to do with the BTS. As the article made clear, it occured on the Skywalk. No mention of the station.

You state it has nothing to do with the BTS as a fact. Can you back that up? Some are saying the BTS owns the skywalk below its tracks and attached to its columns, so are you sure it has nothing to do with the BTS? Hmm?

[Bangkok Barry]

It's obviously AseanNow Readers Blame the Victim Weekend. First the old chap who was crossing the road and was run down by a motorcycle (nothing unusual there) and now a woman who has broken bones due to poor maintenance (nothing unusual there either).

[Sydebolle]

Same as falling into an open manhole; no one to blame. It happened to me decades ago when I was told "falang too sa-toompeed" (too stupid) which brought all discussions to an end ....... 

[metisdead]

A troll post and a reply has been removed.

[brianthainess]

On 1/29/2022 at 8:53 AM, darksidedog said:

Were there a shred of decency at the hospital, they would be more concerned right now on operating on the leg, and worrying about who was going to pay the bill later. Utter disgrace that neither BTS, who you would think should be responsible, or the area districts can deny responsibility when clearly one of them is responsible for the station being safe.

No where in the article does it mention any hospital bills, she is Thai therefore it is a

30 baht fee, and recently, it now does not matter from what province your from, private hospitals have to give emergency treatment and bill the government. This is about RESPONSABILITY and in Thailand it does not exist, losing face does.

Just had some sliding windows fitted to my veranda, they are all out of square, and don't close properly on complaining i was told "your house not straight" ????

[metisdead]

A post using a trolling reference to the PM has been removed.

[mancub]

20 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

But so easy to make the accusation based on nothing eh…

Fair point .

[mancub]

14 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You state it has nothing to do with the BTS as a fact. Can you back that up? Some are saying the BTS owns the skywalk below its tracks and attached to its columns, so are you sure it has nothing to do with the BTS? Hmm?

Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a long disclaimer pertaining to the use of the BTS. 

[spidermike007]

Taking responsibility is a man's game. It requires a fair amount of adulthood, self esteem, and sense of fair play. It is just not something we see a lot here. A societal weakness? Passing the buck seems to be a Thai specialty. And there are not many safeguards in place when in comes to public safety here. When you leave the relative safety of your home, you are taking chances, and putting yourself at risk. It is survival of the fittest out there. The sidewalks have always been a hazard, as well as the roads, whether you are driving, or walking. 

 

Asking people, or an agency here, to take responsibility for the hazards they may be responsible for seems to be a bit much to ask. It may be their ethical, moral, or legal obligation. But, that does not mean a lot, when there is little power of enforcement, for us lowborn proletarians. 

[yogi yogi]

17 hours ago, digger70 said:

Yea for sure. If it breaks while you rent the place it's yours to break and replace.

even if the door knob was 10 years old? i think it might break with every guest .its a gold mine idea.  just make items in room ready to break before check in

[berrec]

Ya, welcome to the LOS and LONR (No Responsibility), it's difficult in the majority of cases to find anyone here that accepts responsibility for any adverse actions unless shamed or dragged kicking and screaming.

 

My experience with over 40 years of working and living now here is it's a complete loss of face to admit "Ya it's me that's responsible" by Thais.

 

So like most, just suck it up!

 

 

[Gottfrid]

On 1/29/2022 at 6:02 PM, billd766 said:

I am not blaming anyone. You are.

 

You are saying that it was her fault for not looking.

 

So please answer my simple questions.

 

Were you at the scene at the time it happened? Did you actually see it happen? Or is it just your thought or your opinion?

No, I was not there. No I did not see. Sure, then we have 2 different scenarios. 

1. Se did not look where she was walking.
2. Too much people, so that she was pushed and hurt herself.

Neither of those can make other organizations or authorities responsible.