New COVID Cases Rise among Foreign Tourists in Phuket

[snoop1130]

 

PHUKET, Feb 4 (TNA) – The number of COVID-infected foreign tourists is rising in Phuket in proportion to more arrivals and some visitors failed to undergo RT-PCR tests before their flights to the island province.

 

Phuket deputy governor Pichet Panawong said that from Nov 1, 2021, to Feb 1, 2022, there were 4,369 COVID-19 cases among visitors who entered Phuket through Test & Go and Sandbox schemes.

 

New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests.

 

Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-876649

 

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[Havenstreet1940]

.........................'New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests'   ?????

 

So how did they manage to enter Thailand ???.

 

[Virt]

50 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

from Nov 1, 2021, to Feb 1, 2022, there were 4,369 COVID-19 cases among visitors who entered Phuket through Test & Go and Sandbox schemes.

Test and you shall find and since 100% of the tourist are tested it's only natural some positives slip through.

 

Now how about testing 100% of the local population in Phuket and compare numbers...

[connda]

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Phuket deputy governor Pichet Panawong said that from Nov 1, 2021, to Feb 1, 2022, there were 4,369 COVID-19 cases among visitors who entered Phuket through Test & Go and Sandbox schemes.

436.9 Million THB in revenue for Thai hospitals?  ????  Quite the payday! 

[FalangKino]

Every single person they allow into the country is vetted, as well as double jabbed.

 

This is exactly what they want. Every single one that tests positive will be forced to undergo a 10 day minimum stay in a hospital which costs around 10,000 baht a day. This is also not including the government approved hotels they had to stay in before, as well as the tests that had to be paid for as well.

 

This is just another racket to extort foreigners that visit this country.

Edited February 4, 2022 by FalangKino

[Scott]

Inflammatory post reported and removed.

 

[The Hammer2021]

21 minutes ago, connda said:

436.9 Million THB in revenue for Thai hospitals?  ????  Quite the payday! 

Unsubstantiated rubbish! Please explain

Edited February 4, 2022 by The Hammer2021

[mommysboy]

I don't think it's possible to open up the economy and borders without accepting a huge surge in Omicron cases.  Thailand has consistently been behind the curve in responding to new developments. It's their way I guess. Omicron is far less dangerous particularly to the vaccinated.

[mancub]

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests.

 

If they've escaped being tested, how can they possible contribute as being "new cases" ?

[TropicalGuy]

2 hours ago, Virt said:

Test and you shall find and since 100% of the tourist are tested it's only natural some positives slip through.

 

Now how about testing 100% of the local population in Phuket and compare numbers...

and we know Omicron is dominant now, five times more infectious but also ten times less lethal so just STOP all this daft purposeless testing & case reporting. UK & Scandinavian countries stopping all this nonsense next week. No more Thais will get vaccinated so maximum effort now made.local Thai transmission must be way higher than from tourists so just open up to the vaxxed as Phil have done.

[steven100]

Those dirty farang again ......   spreading the virus in Thailand    !!!!

[Petey11]

Why not say which tests they are getting positive, arrival or day 5/6. Maybe there's too many day 5 positive tests which could have easily been picked up in Thailand.

[hughrection]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Unsubstantiated rubbish! Please explain

Every single one that tests positive will be forced to undergo a 10 day minimum stay in a hospital which costs around 10,000 baht a day. This is also not including the government approved hotels they had to stay in before, as well as the tests that had to be paid for as well.

[The Hammer2021]

1 minute ago, hughrection said:

Every single one that tests positive will be forced to undergo a 10 day minimum stay in a hospital which costs around 10,000 baht a day. This is also not including the government approved hotels they had to stay in before, as well as the tests that had to be paid for as well.

Yep. I know the narrative!  Please substantiate it with detail. As in factual, provable truth. WHO- WENT WHERE -WHEN FOR HOW MUCH?

If you can't then its just a rumour for the credulous

[Rhacsyn]

3 hours ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

.........................'New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests'   ?????

 

So how did they manage to enter Thailand ???.

 

Reported in Thaiger this morning:

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-thailand/cv19-phuket/phuket-officials-alarmed-by-number-of-tourists-testing-positive-on-arrival

[Virt]

1 hour ago, TropicalGuy said:

and we know Omicron is dominant now, five times more infectious but also ten times less lethal so just STOP all this daft purposeless testing & case reporting. UK & Scandinavian countries stopping all this nonsense next week. No more Thais will get vaccinated so maximum effort now made.local Thai transmission must be way higher than from tourists so just open up to the vaxxed as Phil have done.

We're not stopping testing next week.

We dropped all restrictions a couple of days ago in Denmark, but quickest centers are still open until March 6.

PCR tests will still continue and have a daily capacity of 200.000 tests.

 

People are recommended to use home tests and only use PCR tests if having symptoms or if quickest is positive.

 

Still monitoring the situation even if we opened up 

 

Example.

Today's statistic.

40.000 positive from 164.000 tests, so even if we dropped all restrictions we still tests a whole lot more than most of the world per million population.

 

Experts are however discussing if it's worth spending so much money on testing.

 

We spent more than 20 billion danish kroner on testing which is approx 100 billion baht.

 

So far during the pandemic we used 61 million PCR tests and 59 million quick tests in a 5.8 million population, so each danish person has in average been tested 20 times during the pandemic.

 

Worth it?

No idea, but i know it's nice we dropped all the restrictions here.

 

Thailand will eventually come to the same conclusion that it is possible to open up with no restrictions, but who knows when that will happen.

 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, Rhacsyn said:

4 hours ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

.........................'New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests'   ?????

 

So how did they manage to enter Thailand ???.

 

Reported in Thaiger this morning:

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-thailand/cv19-phuket/phuket-officials-alarmed-by-number-of-tourists-testing-positive-on-arrival

From the link above: 

 

“False Covid-19 RT-PCR test results are assumed to have something to do with the sharp rise in the number of post-arrival positive tests among tourists. These problems are something beyond Phuket’s authority to deal with and help is needed from the CCSA’s operations centre.”

 

I wonder if the authorities can double check the validity of a PCR certificate.

i.e. IF someone tests positive can the MoPH official contact the issuing hospital / clinic noted on the PCR result and ask them if the result is valid ?

... I suspect some countries with strong individual rights and protection of information may not release information confirming negative or positive tests which makes things very easy for the cheats. 

 

 

 

 

[Virt]

43 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

From the link above: 

 

“False Covid-19 RT-PCR test results are assumed to have something to do with the sharp rise in the number of post-arrival positive tests among tourists. These problems are something beyond Phuket’s authority to deal with and help is needed from the CCSA’s operations centre.”

 

I wonder if the authorities can double check the validity of a PCR certificate.

i.e. IF someone tests positive can the MoPH official contact the issuing hospital / clinic noted on the PCR result and ask them if the result is valid ?

... I suspect some countries with strong individual rights and protection of information may not release information confirming negative or positive tests which makes things very easy for the cheats. 

 

 

 

 

Maybe they can start checking the CT values.

 

They did that at the European championships in handball last month and players tested positive, that had high CT values were allowed to play, since a high CT value meant lower virus levels.

 

Explained here in another article and seems like it's not bullet proof, but might be viable.

 

https://www.science.org/content/article/one-number-could-help-reveal-how-infectious-covid-19-patient-should-test-results

[smedly]

I would get a posting ban if I said what I wanted to say about this

 

and meanwhile 

 

 

Two sources have said Hong Kong health authorities have determined China’s Sinovac vaccine is of no use against the Delta and Omicron variants, thus toughening control measures to minimise any chances of infection. About 40% of the inoculated population chose Sinovac.

[smedly]

just posting what I am reading, people need to look at the sources but is a good heads up to investigate further

 

Medical experts in Hong Kong have warned of the efficacy rate of the Sinovac vaccine against the Omicron variant, with govt public health advisor Yuen Kwok-yung saying that it didn’t provide sufficient antibodies to neutralise the Omicron variant.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Yep. I know the narrative!  Please substantiate it with detail. As in factual, provable truth. WHO- WENT WHERE -WHEN FOR HOW MUCH?

If you can't then its just a rumour for the credulous

do your own research - people on here just share, it is assumed you have the hammer internet and can go investigate ................................... please come back and let us know what you find - this is a sharing of discovery in a very complex environment 

[smedly]

4 hours ago, Virt said:

Test and you shall find and since 100% of the tourist are tested

well that statement just about sums it up and then they get banged up, omicrom is spreading as we all know and there is no way to avoid it - come to Thailand we want you to come and get out there - only you will be tested 

 

welcome to Thailand 

 

has anyone had enough of this ####

[The Hammer2021]

18 minutes ago, smedly said:

do your own research - people on here just share, it is assumed you have the hammer internet and can go investigate ................................... please come back and let us know what you find - this is a sharing of discovery in a very complex environment 

Any controversial subject I put forward I can explain IMMEDIATELY. I expect  others to be able  to-do the same. You present  me with a childish logical fallacy. I can not prove a negative. I don't need to.  When people in general are challenged about lies and BS they can refute the challenger or prove what they say.. But just repeating nonsense conspiracy  theories about Thai  hospitals and laboratories is unacceptable.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Any controversial subject I put forward I can explain IMMEDIATELY. I expect  others to be able  to-do the same. You present  me with a childish logical fallacy. I can not prove a negative. I don't need to.  When people in general are challenged about lies and BS they can refute the challenger or prove what they say.. But just repeating nonsense conspiracy  theories about Thai  hospitals and laboratories is unacceptable.

I don't believe you lol

 

Hammer Time lol

 

move on - Hammer is on my ignore list, uninteresting and wasting 10secs of my life 

[Jack West Jr]

Liars and conmen , the government, that is.

Please get rid of these thugs and gangsters and put in a younger,responsible civilian government asap.

[bluejets]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

New cases rose from Dec 13 because some visitors had not passed the Thailand Pass registration process or had not undergone RT-PCR tests.

No PCR test, so how did they get on a flight in the first instance and then enter without Thailand Pass..???

Doesn't add up.

[wensiensheng]

11 hours ago, Virt said:

Test and you shall find and since 100% of the tourist are tested it's only natural some positives slip through.

 

Now how about testing 100% of the local population in Phuket and compare numbers...

Yup. Covid is rife in phuket. My daughter had it a couple of weeks ago. No idea where she caught it, assume her school, no attempt at test and trace of contacts. She just isolated at home, but there was nothing to stop her going out and about other than her own responsibility. We only discovered she had it by accident because I gave her a rapid test so that we could prove she was Covid free for her gym club. Otherwise she would have been roaming around infecting others

[simple1]

49 minutes ago, bluejets said:

No PCR test, so how did they get on a flight in the first instance and then enter without Thailand Pass..???

Doesn't add up.

It has been reported the large majority of Covid cases are entering from Russia and a 'stan'. One can only assume compliance papers are not rigourously checked at boarding.

Edited February 5, 2022 by simple1

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The number of COVID-infected foreign tourists is rising in Phuket in proportion to more arrivals and some visitors failed to undergo RT-PCR tests before their flights to the island province.

Complete garbage, infection numbers have risen because tourists who have been given freedom after jumping hurdles have mixed with the local population who are under-vaxxed and under tested and have been infected INSIDE THAILAND.

The blame game starts again... dirty foreigners.

[markeewan]

9 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

and we know Omicron is dominant now, five times more infectious but also ten times less lethal so just STOP all this daft purposeless testing & case reporting. UK & Scandinavian countries stopping all this nonsense next week. No more Thais will get vaccinated so maximum effort now made.local Thai transmission must be way higher than from tourists so just open up to the vaxxed as Phil have done.

It is not correct to state that Thais are not getting vaccinated. My wife got her third injection yesterday and son the same day. The local people are still taking this quite seriously and vaccination is ongoing.