​​​​​​​Huge 65% Expats say unvaccinated passengers should sit in separate areas on planes

[mudpuppy]

54 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

The world will soon transform into Dr. Seuss's "Star-Belly Sneetches".  Not only unvaxed passengers in separate areas, we should even go farther (within those separated areas) by sub-dividing groups based on religion, sexual identity, proof (or not) of childhood vaccines, odor, vegans vs meat eaters, alcoholics vs non-drinkers, political beliefs, annual salary (bring your bank statements and portfolios).....hopefully most will notice my sarcasm....but where does it stop.

 

Agree! - But.. sadly there are many on this forum who think such horrible things about people (who are not actually sick) about taking a medication.  A certain abhorrent political faction of the 1930's would be proud of the disdain being shown to "unclean" people.

Some of those same people might be shocked to know that without a booster (or two - depending on where they are from/going) from their first two shots, that they are no longer considered as "vaccinated".

 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Whale said:

Not pointlessly Derek, they are profiting from it. See all the Ads on the page?

Not one single ad on my laptop, "Brave"!

[John Drake]

18 minutes ago, poskat said:

not a surprising result considering that most of the participants likely fall into the old/fat/comorbidity group who are likely to die if they got infected.

The troubling issue to me is that we have now had two years with Covid. And many, many of those people with comorbidities have had all that time to exercise, improve their diet, reduce weight, and make themselves more resilient. Few did so, apparently, as this poll indicates they would rather shoot up vaccines and segregate populations than take direct action to help themselves. If we're segregating, we just might be segregating the wrong group of people.

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

My plane had like 360 seats and 21 passengers - if current thai nonsense in entry restrictions continues this story is a non-starter as everyone literally will have about 18 seats to themselves !

Did you amuse yourself by walking plane and counting?

[Liverpool Lou]

How the duck do the unvaccinated in any way affect the high-horsed, 84% vaccinated who are the ones doing all the whinging?   You're ducking vaccinated, probably twice...and boostered.  

[peter zwart]

32 minutes ago, TheScience said:

This is hilarious. People are so ignorant and weak.

 

There is no evidence of airborne disease spreading thru planes (especially covid) in any amount that is concerning.

 

If you are that concerned maybe they should not fly at all.

 

The full air circulation / exchange in a plane is something like 100% turn over in less than five minutes.

 

You'd think it was Ebola.

 

This is just propaganda... continuing to push the narrative.

 

Even CNN knows this

 

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/airplanes-ventilation-study-covid-19/index.html

 

It's over. Freedom wins

The best

[tonysilly]

Sure! Then separate blacks, whites, Jews and fat ladyboys  what about separate phizer people from Johnson and Johnson. I don't trust S Africans. Let's separate them too.  Lol  

[jossthaifarang]

It's the 65% of the population that don't understand how vaccinations even work.

[wombat]

Huge 65% Expats say...
er.. When did it matter what they think?
meanwhile ...
seal me into an aluminium flying petrie dish/tube with recycling air, for how many hours?

[Thaifly88]

4 hours ago, DezLez said:

????Why not go the whole way and put them in their own separate planes and use dedicated check-in desks.

also have a separate lounge - the 'Djokovic Lounge'

[Liverpool Lou]

30 minutes ago, TheScience said:

This is just an amalgamation of a bunch of geezers opinions.

Not just a bunch of geezers' opinions, a bunch of ill-informed, ignorant geezers' opinions.

[vandeventer]

3 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

If these people have tested negative, then why?

This report identifies the unvaccinated as lepers!

This place is getting more and more like Canada everyday. They should travel together and if the vaxed don't like it they can walk.

[Caldera]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Surprisingly was that 65% also wanted airlines to place unvaccinated passengers in separate areas in the cabin. 

I don't see any reason why unvaccinated people should be allowed to fly at all.

[mvdf]

Separate entrances, separate check in and immigration lanes, separate jet bridges, an impenetrable wall dividing the aircraft from front to rear, separate baggage retrieval belts, separate exits. Separate everything. I don't want to be near unvaccinated Karens and Kens.

 

 

[RichardColeman]

33 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Did you amuse yourself by walking plane and counting?

When there is only 20 people in the departure lounge its not a great feat of mathematics

[Thungrat]

Yes, separate them and put them in business class, with economic fare of course.

 

[EVENKEEL]

14 minutes ago, mvdf said:

Separate entrances, separate check in and immigration lanes, separate jet bridges, an impenetrable wall dividing the aircraft from front to rear, separate baggage retrieval belts, separate exits. Separate everything. I don't want to be near unvaccinated Karens and Kens.

 

 

Not sure how people with such extreme phobias can live a normal life.

[thaibreaker]

3 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

If these people have tested negative, then why?

This report identifies the unvaccinated as lepers!

This. Unvaccinated people are of no threat to other people on board. They have to go through the PCR test, and are indeed negative of covid.

[simola]

Absolutely nuts. People have lost all sense of fact, reason and risk. 

[TheScience]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

If you have the budget and its a busy flight then best to book first or business class seats for added protection as Omicron changed the dynamics, last thing I would want is sitting next to an unvaccinated passenger from a country that is known for fake pcr tests.

 

Airplane Passengers At Least Twice As Likely To Catch Covid-19 Because Of Omicron, Airline Trade Body Says

 

The omicron variant of the coronavirus raises the risk of infection on board a passenger plane by two or even three-fold, according to the airline industry’s biggest trade body, a finding that may foreshadow an exponential increase in cases as millions of travelers take to the skies to be with their families during the holiday season.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/12/22/airplane-passengers-at-least-twice-as-likely-to-catch-covid-19-because-of-omicron-airline-trade-body-says/?sh=519125c5536b

 

From you own Forbes article lol

 

In an interview with Bloomberg, the International Air Transport Association’s (IATA) medical adviser David Powell claimed that the risk of transmission on board a plane remains much lower than crowded places on the ground due to the use of hospital-grade air filters.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/12/22/airplane-passengers-at-least-twice-as-likely-to-catch-covid-19-because-of-omicron-airline-trade-body-says/?sh=26223f8a536b

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, petermik said:

Plenty of room on the wings for them.....

Or below in the hold.

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, TheScience said:

 

From you own Forbes article lol

 

In an interview with Bloomberg, the International Air Transport Association’s (IATA) medical adviser David Powell claimed that the risk of transmission on board a plane remains much lower than crowded places on the ground due to the use of hospital-grade air filters.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/12/22/airplane-passengers-at-least-twice-as-likely-to-catch-covid-19-because-of-omicron-airline-trade-body-says/?sh=26223f8a536b

Not sure what you find so funny, I my post stated I would prefer not to sit next to a passenger who is unvaccinated and with a fake PCR test, what is amusing about that?

[thairookie]

The media is trying to equate the unvaccinated with infected.

 

But I like the idea that the unvaccinated should be allocated a different area - to protect them from the vaccinated who are still capable to transmitting the virus.

[ThaiFelix]

The unwashed philistines shouldnt be on any plane in the first place let alone give them a separate area  (unless of course they are towed behind)!

[ChrisKC]

Better still, put them in the hold!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, TheScience said:

Even CNN knows this

 

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/airplanes-ventilation-study-covid-19/index.html

 

You've posted a link to a report from back in October 2020, before the advent of the Delta variant and the current Omicron variant, which is far more transmissible than any of its predecessors.

 

And you either didn't read, or chose to ignore, one of the cautions in even the old, out-of-date info you posted:

 

"The study, which was released without peer review, did not take into account other ways that people could catch the virus on aircraft -- including from others coughing or breathing directly on them, from surfaces or from confined spaces such as restrooms."

 

The HEPA air filtration systems on airplanes do little to nothing to protect you from an infected person who may be sitting next to you or in other close proximity.

 

[TheScience]

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not sure what you find so funny, I my post stated I would prefer not to sit next to a passenger who is unvaccinated and with a fake PCR test, what is amusing about that?

Who would? Does that even need to be said?

 

Or are you inferring that everyone must be 4x vaxed and pcrd 2x for the privilege of flying with you.

 

Great idea ...charter a a plane and stop complaining and dictating other people's lives.

 

The article you posted in part was (ironically) how safe flying was compared to other close contact (indoors) proximity.

[Willy Wombat]

2 hours ago, mvdf said:

Separate entrances, separate check in and immigration lanes, separate jet bridges, an impenetrable wall dividing the aircraft from front to rear, separate baggage retrieval belts, separate exits. Separate everything. I don't want to be near unvaccinated Karens and Kens.

 

 

Are you going to pay for all

of the extra costs incurred by your ideas ?

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Who would? Does that even need to be said?

 

Or are you inferring that everyone must be 4x vaxed and pcrd 2x for the privilege of flying with you.

 

Great idea ...charter a a plane and stop complaining and dictating other people's lives.

 

The article you posted in part was (ironically) how safe flying was compared to other close contact (indoors) proximity.

Yes it needs to be said, there are lots of fake PCR tests circulating in certain countries. As for the rest of your post, nothing to do with what I said but amusing

[gerritkaew]

And put a yellow star on them chest, so we can recognise them.  I see this before in Europe in the 40'...

 

So the are protected against people who get vaccine and who are dangerous .