Don’t park in front of my Bar!!!

Can anyone explain why a bar or business decides or has the wright that   they also own the public Highway road outside their establishment. No yellow lines, No restriction sign, No legal notices, just some high rate person having a major breakdown complaining your blocking my bar…YOU OWN THE BAR NOT THE ROAD!!!!! Go and multiply !!!!!!

You have to understand local attitudes towards territorial p!$sings. They really believe it's their personal parking space and don't really have any concept of property demarcation lines (until it suits them), and they often put traffic cones on 'their' patch of road. Just ignore them, you can even move the cones out of the way if you want, but expect a confrontation. I recall waiting in my car outside my daughter's school years ago, I got there half an hour early to had to wait, very difficult location to find a space, but I found one. . .  A food cart vendor told me he needed to set up shop so I must move. I sat there and ignored him anyway.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

You have to understand local attitudes toward territorial p!$sings. They really believe it's their personal parking space, and they often put traffic cones on 'their' patch of road. Just ignore them, you can even move the cones out of the way if you want, but expect a confrontation. I recall waiting in my car outside my daughter's school years ago, I got there half an hour early to had to wait. . .  A food cart vendor told me he needed to set up shop so I must move. I sat there and ignored him anyway.

Would you have moved if the vendor had asked politely?

No. Should I? I would politely explain that I got their first and he could politely wait until I'm gone.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, johnbarpic said:

Don’t park in front of my Bar!!!

Can anyone explain why a bar or business decides or has the wright that   they also own the public Highway road outside their establishment. No yellow lines, No restriction sign, No legal notices, just some high rate person having a major breakdown complaining your blocking my bar…YOU OWN THE BAR NOT THE ROAD!!!!! Go and multiply !!!!!!

You have the right to park outside anybody's bar... but you do so at your own peril... better have a good insurance for your car in case a baseball bat happens to fall on your car or a your car's tires commit suicide with kitchen knives...

. . . Ughh, more mythbusting en route. . .

. . . Actually it was my wife that explained how to deal with them.

Public roads are a shared resource and I pay my taxes. I don't have to apologise or excuse myself that.

 

 

 

If you are not the shop's customers, it's better not to park in front of the shop because you are obstructing their customers or delivery people from parking there for a while.

 

Remember, they are doing business and if you were in the same situation, you would do the same.

 

 

This style has been going on for decades, some choose to ignore the move request, others say the car will be damaged when they return.  Me personally? I'd simple move or stop inside for a drink.  I've seen businesses with tables, chairs, plants, out on public streets "protecting" the front of their place.

I'll never visit a vendor who thinks the street is theirs.  Or one that uses the walkway.

1 hour ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

I recall waiting in my car outside my daughter's school years ago, I got there half an hour early to had to wait, very difficult location to find a space, but I found one. . .  A food cart vendor told me he needed to set up shop so I must move. I sat there and ignored him anyway.

You ever wonder why the same vendors are set up in the same spot, day after day?  And why the best spots don't go to the earliest arrival or the toughest vendor?  If it was first come, first served, there would be blood in the streets fighting for the good spots each day.

 

Bottom line, you were sitting in a spot that the vendor had paid for.  Public road?  Yup.  Corrupt?  Sure.  But you're not in Kansas any more.

He didn't pay me for it so I don't give a ##:t

46 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

He didn't pay me for it so I don't give a ##:t

This is the sort of attitude and language that many came to Thailand to get away from.

Sometimes I think it's funny when people ask about the legal situation in Thailand for things like this.

I remember a sentence like this in one of the many "Thai" books: "It's not like their lawyer will call your lawyer"...

Imagine anywhere in the world you are out in the dark and some big bloke comes to you and tells you: Move!

What will you do? Argue with him? Tell him to f$@% off because you have the legal right to be there? Sure?

Just imagine waking up in the hospital and asking yourself: Was it worth it?

 

Obviously it might be that all will be fine and nobody will bother you. But you shouldn't be so sure about that.

51 minutes ago, Grecian said:

This is the sort of attitude and language that many came to Thailand to get away from.

Yeah, I'm sick in the head me, parking for 20 minutes outside my kid's school so I can pick her up. Sick in the head. Best avoid folk like me.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

Yeah, I'm sick in the head me, parking for 20 minutes outside my kid's school so I can pick her up. Sick in the head. Best avoid folk like me.

 

 

 

You don't get it do you.

There's nothing "wrong" with you picking up your kid from school.

There's nothing "wrong" with a working class Thai trying to make a living pitching up at the same place they always do.

 

what's wrong is your "I don't give a <deleted>" attitude and aggressive nature. If you prefer that way of dealing with things why did you leave the west?

 

reserving parking spaces with bottles, buckets, plants, reserving tables with umbrellas, bags, jackets, it's just how things work here.

 

there was a bar owner who objected to people sitting on the pavement outside his bar, he used to pour water on the pavement to stop them. charming.

Totally agree with Led Lolly. The reason these confrontations happen is because we allow it.  there’s a thinking Farangs have to Kow Tao to people who don’t look and just  pull out of junctions. Don’t stop at white stop lines on the railway road. And a hundred other violations that would fund the Army, Navy & Police in Fines. First come first served and #%*  them WAIT !!!!!

4 hours ago, Grecian said:

what's wrong is your "I don't give a fuct" attitude and aggressive nature.

This is just your silly imaginings. I'm quite passive in not giving a <deleted> {shrugs}. Your attempt to portray me as aggressive just discredits you.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, johnbarpic said:

Totally agree with Led Lolly. The reason these confrontations happen is because we allow it.  there’s a thinking Farangs have to Kow Tao to people who don’t look and just  pull out of junctions. Don’t stop at white stop lines on the railway road. And a hundred other violations that would fund the Army, Navy & Police in Fines. First come first served and #%*  them WAIT !!!!!

It was happening for years before any of us got to Thailand, and will continue for years after they plant us 6' deep.  If you want western values and customs, you're going to walk around Thailand angry a lot.  

 

"We allow it".  Priceless.  But go ahead and tilt at all the windmills you can stand.   

5 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

He didn't pay me for it so I don't give a ##:t

You sounds like a nice guy to hang out with

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I'll never visit a vendor who thinks the street is theirs.  Or one that uses the walkway.

Many of them pay for their spot on the street. 

We used to get a food cart outside the bar, he throws a handfuls of chili powder on the hotplate and chokes the drinkers inside, eyes watering and all that... 

2 hours ago, johnbarpic said:

Totally agree with Led Lolly. The reason these confrontations happen is because we allow it.  there’s a thinking Farangs have to Kow Tao to people who don’t look and just  pull out of junctions. Don’t stop at white stop lines on the railway road. And a hundred other violations that would fund the Army, Navy & Police in Fines. First come first served and #%*  them WAIT !!!!!

yeah  '    that'll work ..........  you'll go far in Thailand with that attitude

I find it funny that it is the people who complain about how foreigners are changing the way "its always been" in their own country are the same ones that that want the Thais to change to suit themselves.

5 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

Yeah, I'm sick in the head me, parking for 20 minutes outside my kid's school so I can pick her up. Sick in the head. Best avoid folk like me.

 

 

 

Why not try getting to the school 5 minutes before pick-up time?

Oooops, all the parking places have gone!   LOL

8 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

You have the right to park outside anybody's bar... but you do so at your own peril... better have a good insurance for your car in case a baseball bat happens to fall on your car or a your car's tires commit suicide with kitchen knives...

Yes you might have the right to park on the open road but it's not worth the hassle. I once parked in a completely legal spot and found on my return some <deleted> had put red paint on all four wheels.

Had a Thai friend,owner of coffee shop, dropped by for lunch,listened to owner complaining about lack of customers,I suggested that her fathers Merc should park somewhere else rather than right at the front door,Shock, horror that is to show customers that this is shop for hiso people

17 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Why not try getting to the school 5 minutes before pick-up time?

Oooops, all the parking places have gone!   LOL

Or take the Hassel to walk 2-3 min to pick up your kid from a an available parking spot close to the school, instead of sitting in the car 30 min before with engine running to keep cool! 

 

Common sense do not come easy

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I'll never visit a vendor who thinks the street is theirs.  Or one that uses the walkway.

That Is virtually all of them - going shopping must be a nightmare for you!