Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[vinny41]

23 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

HEVs up

PHEVs down

BEV UP 🆙 🆙 ⬆️ 

 

 

 

 

Once again a misleading picture with no link and only show partial figures from January to October

• 92,962 hybrid electric passenger and patrol vehicles (HEVs), equivalent to 98 percent of sales of passenger cars and patrol vehicles, an increase of 60.41 percent from the same month last year.
• 1,895 plug-in hybrid electric passenger and patrol vehicles (PHEVs), equivalent to 24 percent of total sales Decreased from the same month last year by 37.71 percent.
• Passenger cars and electric passenger vehicles (BEVs) totaled 73,568 units, equivalent to 48 percent of total sales, an increase from the same month last year at 603.66 percent.
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• https://fti.or.th/2024/01/29/ส-อ-ท-เผยยอดส่งออกรถยนต์-2/

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[Andrew Dwyer]

Toyota continues its love/hate relationship with EV’s by stepping up the schedule to produce a Hilux EV , possibly spurred on by pickup rival Isuzu preparing to reveal their EV pickup later this month..

 

https://electrek.co/2024/03/26/toyota-launch-all-electric-hilux-pickup-2025-fend-off-rivals/

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Yep, I no longer need a personal ride, just a convenience on standby is enough. No more Volvo, Merc, Pontiac, or Toyota.........🤭

Sorry you had to sell the truck.  If need any assistance, don't be shy ...

... we're here for, always happy to help ... 

[KhunLA]

37 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Toyota continues its love/hate relationship with EV’s by stepping up the schedule to produce a Hilux EV , possibly spurred on by pickup rival Isuzu preparing to reveal their EV pickup later this month..

 

https://electrek.co/2024/03/26/toyota-launch-all-electric-hilux-pickup-2025-fend-off-rivals/

Priced right, that could be game changer here, as locals love their trucks.  Some actually need them ... 

[CharlesHolzhauer]

An inexpensive EV pick-up truck would be probably welcome by some country folk.

 

VinFast CEO Reveals 4 New EV Models for Thai Market in 2024

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/03/28/vinfast-ceo-reveals-4-new-ev-models-for-thai-market-in-2024/

Vietnamese Automaker VinFast to Start Selling EVs in Thailand

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/03/27/vietnamese-automaker-vinfast-to-start-selling-evs-in-thailand/

[transam]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Sorry you had to sell the truck.  If need any assistance, don't be shy ...

... we're here for, always happy to help ... 

Don't be sorry, my truck at 11.5 years old, I deemed it time to move it on, though in your case, I would move your MG on, well before 11.5 years old.................😂

[Pib]

3 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

That is very interesting.  The Euro zone is of course a much bigger and diversed market, but also a more mature EV market. 

At 20% EV sales, Thailand is already double the EU numbers. 

Asia is generally faster at adopting new technology and Europe has not been exposed to the Chinese shock, but it could also be that Thailand has overshoot the target and sales will fall a bit, like we already saw in February. 

 

Europe is being exposed to Chinese EVs at a very healthy rate....see below 27 Mar 2024 CNBC article...see link for full story....a partial quote also below.    I expect governments in both Europe and US will continue to be lobbied hard to stem the growth as the Chinese EV manufacturers can simply produce quality EVs at a lower cost than European/US manufacturing their EVs in Europe/the US.   

 

P.S.  Today in a trip to the mother-in-laws house my 5 month old BYD Atto reached the 10,000km point....other than a few very minor issues like experiencing some squeaking front brakes for about 20 minutes right after the EV had its 3 month/5,000km point in Dec 2023, an Infotainment system glitch right after an OTA update (the glitch was cleared by simply rebooting the Infotainment system), and "squeak" in the back seat when hitting certain bumps at certain speeds (the dealership fixed that in about an hour) the Atto has been a joy to drive.  Smooth, quiet, extremely fuel efficient...most any potential customer should like that.   European/US car manufacturers have very good reason to be afraid of Chinese EV manufacturers.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/28/china-made-vehicles-will-make-up-a-quarter-of-europes-ev-sales-this-year.html

 

Quote

 

China-made vehicles will comprise a quarter of Europe’s EV sales this year, study shows

PUBLISHED WED, MAR 27 20248:14 PM EDT

 

 

About 19.5% of battery-powered EVs sold in the EU last year were from China, with close to a third of the sales in France and Spain constituting EVs shipped from the Asian country, the European Federation for Transport and Environment (T&E) reported in a paper shared Wednesday. 

 

The share of made-in-China vehicles in the region is expected to rise to just over 25% in 2024, according to the T&E research, as Chinese brands such as BYD ramp up their global expansion. 

 

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

33 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

Europe is being exposed to Chinese EVs at a very healthy rate....see below 27 Mar 2024 CNBC article...see link for full story....a partial quote also below.    I expect governments in both Europe and US will continue to be lobbied hard to stem the growth as the Chinese EV manufacturers can simply produce quality EVs at a lower cost than European/US manufacturing their EVs in Europe/the US.   

 

P.S.  Today in a trip to the mother-in-laws house my 5 month old BYD Atto reached the 10,000km point....other than a few very minor issues like experiencing some squeaking front brakes for about 20 minutes right after the EV had its 3 month/5,000km point in Dec 2023, an Infotainment system glitch right after an OTA update (the glitch was cleared by simply rebooting the Infotainment system), and "squeak" in the back seat when hitting certain bumps at certain speeds (the dealership fixed that in about an hour) the Atto has been a joy to drive.  Smooth, quiet, extremely fuel efficient...most any potential customer should like that.   European/US car manufacturers have very good reason to be afraid of Chinese EV manufacturers.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/28/china-made-vehicles-will-make-up-a-quarter-of-europes-ev-sales-this-year.html

 

 

20% is still a far cry from the 97-98% market share Chinese EVs have in Thailand.

I assume the Chinese brands that are available in Europe is not the brand zoo we see here in Thailand.

The few Chinese brands that can stand the test of time against European 🇪🇺 consumer protection rights, would be the right choice of car, also here in Thailand. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

40 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

20% is still a far cry from the 97-98% market share Chinese EVs have in Thailand.

I assume the Chinese brands that are available in Europe is not the brand zoo we see here in Thailand.

The few Chinese brands that can stand the test of time against European 🇪🇺 consumer protection rights, would be the right choice of car, also here in Thailand. 

On the subject of Europe 🇪🇺. Interesting chart.

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

This explains why the majority of EVs are in the major cities. Wealth and EV ownership goes hand in hand.

You capitalistic greenish!

[HighPriority]

Growing markets, terrible…

[HighPriority]

2 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

This explains why the majority of EVs are in the major cities. Wealth and EV ownership goes hand in hand.

You capitalistic greenish!

I would have expected that even a dullard like yourself would comprehend that new car ownership is usually in lock step with having a full stomach.

To help you a bit, empty stomachs normally are less focused on buying ice or ev.

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, HighPriority said:

I would have expected that even a dullard like yourself would comprehend that new car ownership is usually in lock step with having a full stomach.

To help you a bit, empty stomachs normally are less focused on buying ice or ev.

 

Could you explain what you are on about, please........

It's high priority...........

[HighPriority]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Could you explain what you are on about, please........

It's high priority...........

You’ll need to talk to your mate oily but maybe you two should smoke a little less 👍🏼

[motdaeng]

4 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

This explains why the majority of EVs are in the major cities. Wealth and EV ownership goes hand in hand.

You capitalistic greenish!

 

no need to be wealthy to own a EV, in thailand the prices are similar to ICE. if you compare the car specs, some EV cars are even cheaper than the ICE cars!

 

and EV cars are most economical for using in cities, because of the traffic jam, stop and go and lower average speed ...

 

no wonder, a lot of EV owners life in the cities, clever people, aren't they?

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, HighPriority said:

You’ll need to talk to your mate oily but maybe you two should smoke a little less 👍🏼

I don't know an "Oily", hmm, so you cannot translate your post, OK, no ploblem...🤔

[HighPriority]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't know an "Oily", hmm, so you cannot translate your post, OK, no ploblem...🤔

Simply not bothered explaining myself to trolls, have a nice night tranny.

[transam]

1 minute ago, HighPriority said:

Simply not bothered explaining myself to trolls, have a nice night tranny.

It's OK, really......

[UWEB]

42 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

On the subject of Europe 🇪🇺. Interesting chart.

 

Where is Norway?

[3NUMBAS]

electric beatle looks ok for a knockoff classic at 17k

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, Pib said:

 

Europe is being exposed to Chinese EVs at a very healthy rate....see below 27 Mar 2024 CNBC article...see link for full story....a partial quote also below.    I expect governments in both Europe and US will continue to be lobbied hard to stem the growth as the Chinese EV manufacturers can simply produce quality EVs at a lower cost than European/US manufacturing their EVs in Europe/the US.   

 

P.S.  Today in a trip to the mother-in-laws house my 5 month old BYD Atto reached the 10,000km point....other than a few very minor issues like experiencing some squeaking front brakes for about 20 minutes right after the EV had its 3 month/5,000km point in Dec 2023, an Infotainment system glitch right after an OTA update (the glitch was cleared by simply rebooting the Infotainment system), and "squeak" in the back seat when hitting certain bumps at certain speeds (the dealership fixed that in about an hour) the Atto has been a joy to drive.  Smooth, quiet, extremely fuel efficient...most any potential customer should like that.   European/US car manufacturers have very good reason to be afraid of Chinese EV manufacturers.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/28/china-made-vehicles-will-make-up-a-quarter-of-europes-ev-sales-this-year.html

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

i can imagine it is difficult for you to stay at the topic: Electric Vehicles in Thailand!! it is boring to see all your UK spam ...

 

btw, most people don't give a f... what happen in the UK ... 

As you can see @pib  posted about Europe is being exposed to Chinese EVs and I didn't see any complaints from you about his post and clearly he must be interested in what is happening to EV market share in Europe

And I noticed on this thread you made 2 posts about China which as far as I know is not part of Thailand and there is a further 207 posts on China 

Edited March 28 by vinny41
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[vinny41]

BYD’s Quality Problems Hit International Markets: Report

 

In Thailand, where Chinese EVs have taken the domestic automotive market by storm, BYD’s quality issues seem to be mounting. Complaints of paint and plastic peeling have become public. Meanwhile, in Israel, BYD EVs are reported to have warped under the weight of roof racks.

https://insideevs.com/news/712148/byd-quality-problems-hit-international-markets/

Edited March 28 by vinny41
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[motdaeng]

8 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

 

As you can see @pib  posted about Europe is being exposed to Chinese EVs and I didn't see any complaints from you about his post and clearly he must be interested in what is happening to EV market share in Europe

 

i think no-one would mind a few EV news from abroad, but you seems to do it exclusively ... it looks like an obsession  ...

just try to stay at the topic, thank you!

[vinny41]

27 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Where is Norway?

This article show % of Electric cars in Europe and market share for each country

Electric cars market share in Europe is 1.2%

The only European market in which electric cars have a very high market share is still Norway with 20.8 %, followed by Iceland (7.3 %) and Denmark and Sweden with 4.0 % each. Cyprus and Greece bring up the rear in terms of locally emission-free cars with 0.1% each.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/710991/car-numbers-european-roads-by-country/

[JBChiangRai]

9 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

This article show % of Electric cars in Europe and market share for each country

Electric cars market share in Europe is 1.2%

The only European market in which electric cars have a very high market share is still Norway with 20.8 %, followed by Iceland (7.3 %) and Denmark and Sweden with 4.0 % each. Cyprus and Greece bring up the rear in terms of locally emission-free cars with 0.1% each.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/710991/car-numbers-european-roads-by-country/

Nobody cares about market share by vehicles on the road, what we care about is what the EV percentage sales of new vehicles is.

 

We could have 100% sale of new vehicles being EV’s, and the market share would still be under 2%, clearly the 2% figure is a useless statistic.

[3NUMBAS]

nobodys talking about the extra weight on roads and causing potholes and multi story car parks cant take the extra weight and collapsing

[vinny41]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Nobody cares about market share by vehicles on the road, what we care about is what the EV percentage sales of new vehicles is.

 

We could have 100% sale of new vehicles being EV’s, and the market share would still be under 2%, clearly the 2% figure is a useless statistic.

Clearly the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association doesn't share your view and neither does the website and the journalist that published the article otherwise why would they published the figures if no one was interested in reading

 

[CharlieH]

Reported off topic posts removed.

 

 

[josephbloggs]

48 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

nobodys talking about the extra weight on roads and causing potholes and multi story car parks cant take the extra weight and collapsing

I wonder why.

Cars have been getting heavier for decades. A petrol powered MK1 Golf GTI weighed 820kg. The 2023 petrol equivalent (MK8) weighs 1,570kg. Almost double.

An early BMW 3 series base model was 1,140kg. It is now around 1,700kg. 

Back in the days we only really had Land Rovers or Range Rovers as SUVs. The original Range Rover was around 1,700kg, now it is 2,500kgs. A BMW X7 weighs around 2,700kg!!

Honda Accord MK1 around 900kgs. Current model almost 1,500kg.

etc etc. How many multi story car parks have collapsed due to cars getting heavier and bulkier?

 

A BYD Seal is a good family car. It weighs a little more than a BMW 520d. Has anyone called for 520d's to be banned as they might cause car parks to collapse? The new BMW M5 will be 2,345 kg! Is anyone talking about that?

My petrol powered XC40 weighs almost 1,700kg. The electric equivalent is 2,050kg for single motor and 2,160 for the twin. Hardly enough to cause a building to collapse, especially if they are letting M5s, SUVs etc in.

If you carry four big passengers you can easily add 300kgs to your gross weight. Is anyone talking about that and asking for passengers to be banned?

It's just another propaganda myth against EVs. Yes, they are heavier as I said, but cars generally are getting heavier and heavier and have been for 30+ years - where is the outcry to stop this? And no doubt as technology advances batteries will become lighter  Much ado about nothing.

Edited March 28 by josephbloggs

[mistral53]

Xiaomi SU7 was introduce with prices this evening, and they rock! Converted from Chinese prices to THB: 'official price in China for the starting model 1.16 million baht, and Pro and Max models will be 1.24 - 1.52 million baht. 50,000 orders in 27 minutes after accepting orders.

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/03/28/xiaomi-su7-launched-with-830-km-range-starts-at-29900-usd/