Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[josephbloggs]

33 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

Xiaomi SU7 was introduce with prices this evening, and they rock! Converted from Chinese prices to THB: 'official price in China for the starting model 1.16 million baht, and Pro and Max models will be 1.24 - 1.52 million baht. 50,000 orders in 27 minutes after accepting orders.

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/03/28/xiaomi-su7-launched-with-830-km-range-starts-at-29900-usd/

Wow, if those prices reflect accurately in Thailand then it is a huge shakeup.

[Bandersnatch]

8 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

nobodys talking about the extra weight on roads and causing potholes and multi story car parks cant take the extra weight and collapsing

 In a country where most people drive 2 tonne pickups you are complaining about EVs because they weigh less? 

 

That’s why nobody but you is complaining about it 😂

[Skipalongcassidy]

19 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Why don’t you read the 5,000+ comments in this discussion and you will soon discern a pattern.
 

When the discussion is between EV owners or EV owners and those considering EV ownership, the discussion is civil and friendly.

 

Then when EV Haters arrive with their ignorance and lies the tone changes. 
 

Why don’t you stick to your discussions about attractive Ladyboys and leave discussions about EVs in Thailand to those who actually know what they’re talking about.

See it does disprove it...

[ExpatOilWorker]

7 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Xiaomi SU7 was introduce with prices this evening, and they rock! Converted from Chinese prices to THB: 'official price in China for the starting model 1.16 million baht, and Pro and Max models will be 1.24 - 1.52 million baht. 50,000 orders in 27 minutes after accepting orders.

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/03/28/xiaomi-su7-launched-with-830-km-range-starts-at-29900-usd/

Does it come in petrol or diesel?

[Bandersnatch]

54 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

See it does disprove it...

 

The only thing I can see is that you totally lack all ability to construct an argument.

 

Next time try including some reasons, explanations and evidence. Then you won’t sound like you’re still in kindergarten  

Edited March 28 by Bandersnatch

[Skipalongcassidy]

7 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

The only thing I can see is that you totally lack all ability to construct an argument.

 

Next time try including some reasons, explanations and evidence. Then you won’t sound like you’re still in kindergarten  

Disproved again... the arrogance is shining through... PS... it doesn't bother me that you like ev's why does it bother you so much that I do not think that they are the end all in transportation.

[KhunLA]

10 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

nobodys talking about the extra weight on roads and causing potholes and multi story car parks cant take the extra weight and collapsing

Most non inter province roads are made for at least the weight of 6 wheel trucks.   As stated already, EV are far from the heaviest, compared to many pick ups or SUV on the roads.  

 

Our MG ZS EV weights in at 1570 kg / 3454 lbs, a light weight compared to other SUVs.

 

 

Kerb weights of the Toyota Hilux

 

Edited March 28 by KhunLA

[Bandersnatch]

5 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

it doesn't bother me that you like ev's

 

I don’t like my EV

 

I love being able to charge it at home for free from excess solar power
I love that it comes with over 6 Tesla powerwalls of backup power for my house which means I don’t need PEA anymore

I love the instant torque

I love the 0-100km/h in 3.8 seconds without spinning my wheels 

I love that it has perfect 50:50 weight distribution

I love that it has an incredible low centre of gravity and goes round corners like it’s on rails

I love the drag coefficient of just 0.219 Cd which is better than a Porsche Taycan
I love the regenerative breaking and not having to use the brake pedal
I love the adaptive suspension
I love that the battery pack is a structural component, increasing torsional stiffness and so increasing handling limits
I love the Torque vectoring which sends power to which wheel needs it most
I love that it only has one gear  
I love that it has a very long wheel base
I love that it is so silent to drive for me and other road users
I love that I am not poisoning the pedestrians and motorbike riders around me when I drive or sit at the traffic lights

I love that it has a front storage compartment where the engine would be in an ICE car
I love being able to switch on the aircon while I’m still in the restaurant

I love being able to do “Find My Car” because the car has a 5G chip

I love the 8 year warranty for the car and battery

I love 8 year completely free servicing and breakdown recovery

I love the way it looks

 

 

 

 

[mistral53]

8 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Wow, if those prices reflect accurately in Thailand then it is a huge shakeup.

If they make it to Thailand, prices In Thailand will be significantly higher, because Xiaomi has no plans to build a factory in Thailand, which removes some incentives the Thai government gave companies like BYD and Deepal etc. But in China this will have an impact - in an already very crowded segment of EV models.

 

From what I read, Xiaomi has their sights on Europe as they compare their top model with the likes of the Porsche Tycan.

[KhunLA]

36 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

If they make it to Thailand, prices In Thailand will be significantly higher, because Xiaomi has no plans to build a factory in Thailand, which removes some incentives the Thai government gave companies like BYD and Deepal etc. But in China this will have an impact - in an already very crowded segment of EV models.

 

From what I read, Xiaomi has their sights on Europe as they compare their top model with the likes of the Porsche Tycan.

Yes, the CH EV manufacturers make a nice profit with the mark up on the international markets.  As the local manufacturers (EU & US) pales with lower specs and higher prices.   Easy to undercut the competition, and still maintain a nice mark up over the CH pricing.

 

In TH, our MG ZS EV, with no import duty, and govt incentive, sells for about the same price, as sold in China.  That's pretty amazing and makes it quite the value.   As are the BYD offerings, compared to other countries.  

 

People talk about a Chinese EV price war coming, and I don't see that happening outside of CH or TH, as they simply don't need to discount their cars to compete.  Even as the cost of the batteries are expected to come down as much as 50%.

[macahoom]

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

People talk about a Chinese EV price war coming, and I don't see that happening outside of CH or TH, as they simply don't need to discount their cars to compete.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/28/xiaomi-releases-electric-car-4k-cheaper-than-teslas-model-3-as-price-wars-heat-up.html

 

“Xiaomi CEO Lei Jun said the standard version of the SU7 will sell for 215,900 yuan  in the China — a price he acknowledged would mean the company was selling each car at a loss.
Tesla’s Model 3 starts at 245,900 yuan in China.”

[Andrew Dwyer]

51 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Yes, the CH EV manufacturers make a nice profit with the mark up on the international markets.  As the local manufacturers (EU & US) pales with lower specs and higher prices.   Easy to undercut the competition, and still maintain a nice mark up over the CH pricing.

 

In TH, our MG ZS EV, with no import duty, and govt incentive, sells for about the same price, as sold in China.  That's pretty amazing and makes it quite the value.   As are the BYD offerings, compared to other countries.  

 

People talk about a Chinese EV price war coming, and I don't see that happening outside of CH or TH, as they simply don't need to discount their cars to compete.  Even as the cost of the batteries are expected to come down as much as 50%.

Yes, i prefer to think of it this way, my Seal would have cost me a further 49.18% if bought in the U.K. and no doubt the cheapest electricity plan there couldn’t compete with my TOU meter ( 2.6 baht per unit ) here.

[ExpatOilWorker]

2 hours ago, mistral53 said:

If they make it to Thailand, prices In Thailand will be significantly higher, because Xiaomi has no plans to build a factory in Thailand, which removes some incentives the Thai government gave companies like BYD and Deepal etc. But in China this will have an impact - in an already very crowded segment of EV models.

 

From what I read, Xiaomi has their sights on Europe as they compare their top model with the likes of the Porsche Tycan.

Xiaomi don't even have a factory in China. They hired an ex-BMW developer to slap together a design and then they asked a state owned company, BAIC group to build it. It will be loaded with spy 🕵️‍♂️ ware.

If you as much as mumble Tiananmen square, it will auto collide with the nearest power pole at top speed. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

Your trusted used car salesman with dark glasses and a fast talking sidekick, will sell you an EV for 300k.

The pink 💗 color is perfect for an e-vanker.

 

Edited March 29 by ExpatOilWorker

[HighPriority]

16 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

nobodys talking about the extra weight on roads and causing potholes and multi story car parks cant take the extra weight and collapsing

I normally struggle to deal with idiots but please tell us more about how, when and where these multi story car parks are collapsing, presumably from the excess weight of all the ev’s that we keep being told are not selling…

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, HighPriority said:

I normally struggle to deal with idiots but please tell us more about how, when and where these multi story car parks are collapsing, presumably from the excess weight of all the ev’s that we keep being told are not selling…

Actually found 2 on wiki (building & structure collapse), neither had anything to do with EV of course.

 

 

2021, a construction crane, during additional construction toppled over onto the parking garage.

2023, the 100 yr old parking garage, was deemed overloaded for the amount of cars permitted.

 

Await the next silly bogus EV story .... 

 

Seems I need to add yet another troll to my growing list ... 

 

Edited March 29 by KhunLA

[HighPriority]

I’m actually thinking it’s better to just not respond via emoticon or reasoning.

They aren’t interested in reasoning and I guess the response of any emoticon gives them endorphins.

Occasionally one or two will post something that leads you to think that maybe they’re more skeptical than anti… but all too soon they remove any doubts you had…

I won’t block them because I think it’s good to know what the trolls and the stupid think so I've decided I’m not going to respond to them in any way.

Hopefully they find a bar that opens earlier to entertain them.

[eddysacc]

6 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Yes, i prefer to think of it this way, my Seal would have cost me a further 49.18% if bought in the U.K. and no doubt the cheapest electricity plan there couldn’t compete with my TOU meter ( 2.6 baht per unit ) here.

How did you get a TOU Tarif of 2.6 baht

Mine is 3.5 baht + ft

[balo]

I would be very worried about owning an EV car in Thailand.   Especially for driving up north in the country.

 

As long as gas prices are not too expensive they will be on the roads for the next 40 years. 
 

[HighPriority]

Just now, balo said:

I would be very worried about owning an EV car in Thailand.   Especially for driving up north in the country.

 

As long as gas prices are not too expensive they will be on the roads for the next 40 years. 
 

Please elaborate on your concerns about driving an ev in northern Thailand… also please elaborate on your personal experience wit ev in Thailand or elsewhere…

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

13 minutes ago, eddysacc said:

How did you get a TOU Tarif of 2.6 baht

Mine is 3.5 baht + ft

Mine is 3.2 baht including VAT + FT

Basic tariff 2.83 baht ( i thought it was 2.6 baht ).

 

 

Could be that my TOU is a 2nd circuit meter with PEA ( EV only designated ).

[Jake72]

On 3/28/2024 at 6:20 AM, Bandersnatch said:

 

You seem very keen to call people liars, so you had better make sure that you are never caught in a lie yourself.

 

The majority of chargers on PlugShare Thailand are not 3-5kW, so that makes you a liar.

 

The filter is not giving you accurate information and I have explained the reason for that. Most chargers have a photo and can clearly when it’s a DC charger 

 

Let's see some evidence of this claim of yours, KhunLA got caught in a big lie. Are you lying as well?

[KhunLA]

21 minutes ago, balo said:

I would be very worried about owning an EV car in Thailand.   Especially for driving up north in the country.

 

As long as gas prices are not too expensive they will be on the roads for the next 40 years. 

What would your concern be ... as seems plenty of fast chargers:

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, Jake72 said:

 

Let's see some evidence of this claim of yours, KhunLA got caught in a big lie. Are you lying as well?

I didn't lie, you simply can't understand what I posted.   I posted screenshot from Charge Loma app that only showed chargers with fast plugs, as that is exactly, the only filter I chose; 1 plug type, the fast plug.

 

I later posted screenshots from 3 separate vendors, again, contradicting your silly statement.  You can count past 10, so add them all up, and they'll probably be close to the Charge Loma apps count, since the 3 main vendors.

 

No apology expected ... have a nice day

[transam]

24 minutes ago, HighPriority said:

Please elaborate on your concerns about driving an ev in northern Thailand… also please elaborate on your personal experience wit ev in Thailand or elsewhere…

 

Running out of electric and not having a 'can' to go get some.

 

If I/we don't own an EV we can't answer your question, but there are tales galore on the Internet.....🤗

[KhunLA]

Just now, transam said:

Running out of electric and not having a 'can' to go get some.

 

If I/we don't own an EV we can't answer your question, but there are tales galore on the Internet.....🤗

Not from Thailand ... not that I've seen or were posted.  And if so, you know they'd be posted on AN.

[HighPriority]

If anyone actually read the thread they’re concerns would be allayed.

And “tales from the internet”… 555 !

Who gives a fork about idiots tales from the internet ?

Edited March 29 by HighPriority

[Jake72]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

I didn't lie, you simply can't understand what I posted.   I posted screenshot from Charge Loma app that only showed chargers with fast plugs, as that is exactly, the only filter I chose; 1 plug type, the fast plug.

 

I later posted screenshots from 3 separate vendors, again, contradicting your silly statement.  You can count past 10, so add them all up, and they'll probably be close to the Charge Loma apps count, since the 3 main vendors.

 

No apology expected ... have a nice day

 

lmao, you can't talk your way out of this one, you lied about fast chargers in Chonburi, it's a fact, anyone can go on PlugShare and verify. it's not going away, admit to your crime and apologize then we can forgive.  

[balo]

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

What would your concern be ... as seems plenty of fast chargers:

 

 

You don't have to show me a map, I am not driving any car in Thailand at the moment. But when I buy one it will not be electric.   Unless the battery capacity will increase on cheaper cars 3 x as much as today. 





 

[Jake72]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

What would your concern be ... as seems plenty of fast chargers:

These are not fast chargers, do not trust anything from KhunLA, he is known for posting false information.