Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

The lowest earners pay no tax , those who earn a bit more pay 12 % tax and anyone who earns the average salary pays 40 % tax

  The NHS and public housing were bought about 100 years ago and we are talking about the situation today in 2022 , rather then in 1922

You’ve not heard of VAT, Duty, or Energy Taxes then?

 

Regardless of when housing, education, health services and welfare were brought into place they were all brought about by Liberal/Labour Governments and all have been continually underfunded by Tory Governments.

 

Your claim that the Tories look after the poor with these programs is a misrepresentation of historical and current facts.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve not heard of VAT, Duty, or Energy Taxes then?

 

Regardless of when housing, education, health services and welfare were brought into place they were all brought about by Liberal/Labour Governments and all have been continually underfunded by Tory Governments.

 

Your claim that the Tories look after the poor with these programs is a misrepresentation of historical and current facts.

Have the Tories raised the taxes for the poor ?

No .

Have the Tories began charging the poor  for education ?

No .

Have Tories cut welfare payments for the poor ?

No.

Have Tories began charging poor people to use the NHS ?

No .

Have the Tories cut peoples housing benefit for the poor  ?

No .

Have the Tories been giving money to the poor  people who are suffering because the Covid pandemic ?

   Yes

it's interesting to know that the actual British anthem for the Queen is a French song written under Louis IV I think ????

 

oh the irony for you rosbeef ????

 

4 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

it's interesting to know that the actual British anthem for the Queen is a French song written under Louis IV I think ????

 

oh the irony for you rosbeef ????

 

That isn't true , John Bull the English man is accredited with writing The U.K National anthem

7 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

 “The left riddled BBC” says it all.

Yes, because that’s what it is. Most journos have an intrinsic left leaning bent. I’m surprised you have never noticed it.

7 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

The British public don’t care about partygate? YOU might not, but the British public most definitely do.

I’m afraid they don’t. ‘Partygate’ is another MSM buzz word for “We all hate Boris - okay yah.” 
The British public have had enough of it and definitely don’t care anymore. Try asking a few of the real public, not lefty press affiliated overseas emigrés.  

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sorry, but it is not ‘an opinion’ that Johnson is a ‘serial liar’, it’s a matter of public record he is.

But still nobody in the UK cares, other than MSM and opposition political supporters. Everybody knows the all politicians lie, especially Liebour. We ‘d rather have Boris for what he does, rather than Starmer or the others for what they lie about. 

50 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

it's interesting to know that the actual British anthem for the Queen is a French song written under Louis IV I think ????

 

oh the irony for you rosbeef ????

 

 

A true Frenchman would know it's spelt rosbif.

4 hours ago, Excel said:

. So yes Boris is a criminal whether you wish to pretend otherwise, 

 

So for your education please understand the following;

 

 

"What type of punishment is a fine?

 

 

A fine  is a penalty of money that a court of law or other authority decides has to be paid as punishment for a crime"

 

crime

/krʌɪm/

 

noun

an action or omission which constitutes an offence and is punishable by law

 

criminal

/ˈkrɪmɪn(ə)l/

 

noun

 

1. a person who has committed a crime.

Your supporting snip are edited rather too much, so much that you pretend something other than the truth. 
 

Have a go at another snip from Wiki, slightly less contorted than yours:

 

In the United Kingdom, a fixed penalty notice(FPN) is a notification of what is usually a minor fine for an alleged criminal offence, that unless settled will result in prosecution.

 

A fixed penalty notice is not a fine or criminal conviction because of the distinction that the recipient can opt for the matter to be dealt with in court instead of paying. 

 

 

 

From this interpretation we can conclude that Boris is not a criminal. 

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

I’m afraid they don’t. ‘Partygate’ is another MSM buzz word for “We all hate Boris - okay yah.” 
The British public have had enough of it and definitely don’t care anymore. Try asking a few of the real public, not lefty press affiliated overseas emigrés.  

Yes, there's the fuel increases , inflation at 8 % , the Russian invasion of Ukraine , the Queens Jubilee , the World cup ,  Monkey pox ,  food shortages, no ones bothered about whether Boris had a drink Last Christmas or not ????

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That isn't true , John Bull the English man is accredited with writing The U.K National anthem

"Que Dieu sauve le Roi" is a French anthem, look it up rosbeef ????

 

 

 

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

A true Frenchman would know it's spelt rosbif.

right ???? shouldn't it be rosebiff anyway? ????

for you Brits ????

 

What would you do without the French ????

 

 

 

 

"The French Marquise de Créquy wrote in her book "Souvenirs", that the tune Grand Dieu Sauve Le Roi (God save the king) , was written by Jean-Baptiste Lully in gratitude for the survival by Louis XIV of an anal fistula operation."

 

33 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

"Que Dieu sauve le Roi" is a French anthem, look it up rosbeef ????

 

 

 

The theory that this inspired God Save the King/Queen is... questionable. While it’s true the original version of this work predates the British one, but that version was completely different and didn’t use this music, so it’s likely either they reworked it to the tune of “God Save the King” or they both used an existing piece of music.

13 hours ago, Red Forever said:

I love watching the tub of lard squirming at PMQs but hope he stays if only for the comedic value.

Yes, forcing the PM once a week to do question time is a great national tradition - like the PM or loathe him it can be entertaining.

 

Just have to look over the pond to see the US president deliberately avoiding answering questions for about 110 days in a row to see the difference. 

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

fixed penalty notice(FPN) is a notification of what is usually a minor fine for an alleged criminal offence,

Jesus, talk about people who can't grasp English language , hope you never bash Thais anymore in your posts now for being, what should we  say, uneducated

 

"Criminal offence",  clearly you can not comprehend what is in front of you so you are on ignore, no time for people like you.

 

 

The best outcome for Labour is a vote of confidence that Bunter wins.....just.

 

He will, by all accounts, never resign, so he will limp on committing all sorts of transgressions and eventually lead the Tory party into the wilderness.

 

The only reason he has any vestige of 'payroll' support is that the sycophants on the payroll know they are doomed without him......Patel, Truss, Raab, Barclay, Zahawi, Dorries, Dowden et al, will all become backbencher no marks.

9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Have the Tories raised the taxes for the poor ?

No .

Have the Tories began charging the poor  for education ?

No .

Have Tories cut welfare payments for the poor ?

No.

Have Tories began (sic) charging poor people to use the NHS ?

No .

Have the Tories cut peoples housing benefit for the poor  ?

No .

Have the Tories been giving money to the poor  people who are suffering because the Covid pandemic ?

   Yes

Have the Tories raised the taxes for the poor ?

Yes...personal allowance frozen and NI increased

Have the Tories began charging the poor for education ?

Yes, unless you earn below £12,570.....we all pay tax

Have Tories cut welfare payments for the poor ?

Yes, by ensuring any increases are less than inflation

Have Tories began charging poor people to use the NHS ?

Yes, increased NIC's........if you work you pay

Have the Tories cut peoples housing benefit for the poor  ?

Yes by ensuring increases do not keep up with the cost of living

Have the Tories been giving money to the poor people who are suffering because the Covid pandemic ?

   Yes, but a lot went to VIP, PPE rip-off contracts and the cost of the world beating (555) Test and Trace programme, which could have paid for the whole of the Education budget plus free school meals for every child for a year.

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Have the Tories raised the taxes for the poor ?

Yes...personal allowance frozen and NI increased

Have the Tories began charging the poor for education ?

Yes, unless you earn below £12,570.....we all pay tax

Have Tories cut welfare payments for the poor ?

Yes, by ensuring any increases are less than inflation

Have Tories began charging poor people to use the NHS ?

Yes, increased NIC's........if you work you pay

Have the Tories cut peoples housing benefit for the poor  ?

Yes by ensuring increases do not keep up with the cost of living

Have the Tories been giving money to the poor people who are suffering because the Covid pandemic ?

   Yes, but a lot went to VIP, PPE rip-off contracts and the cost of the world beating (555) Test and Trace programme, which could have paid for the whole of the Education budget plus free school meals for every child for a year.

The inevitable whataboutery to contradict your post will be interesting...

On 6/4/2022 at 12:49 PM, Will B Good said:

He is no more than a liar, a cheat and a third rate columnist who, through the class system, wormed his way into positions of power.

 

Liar he may be but he's a first rate columnist who earned an excellent living by his pen.He's not particularly upper class - less so than David Cameron for example.If you describe stonking election victories as "worming his way into power" you might want to brush up on the British constitution.

 

I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson but silly uninformed criticism confuses the issue.

3 minutes ago, baboon said:

The inevitable whataboutery to contradict your post will be interesting...

They very conveniently forget Osbourne and Cameron's devastating impact on the British public and their standard of living through austerity......austerity limited to the poor and lower middle classes that is. 

2 minutes ago, jayboy said:

If you describe stonking election victories as "worming his way into power"

By lying and cheating.....no border in the Irish Sea.....rip up any documents for trade with the mainland.....40 new hospitals.........Oven ready deal......levelling up......HS2 for the Northern cities.........all rules followed....no parties............talk about gullible

Tick tick tick

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/05/boris-johnson-allies-vote-of-no-confidence-conservative-party

Off topic post removed

20 hours ago, Loiner said:

Kuensberg /Johnson love fest?? You jest. Perhaps you didn't notice her constant anti-Boris anti-Brexit tirades after losing the referendum?

Davie was an internal appointment by the BBC Board not Boris. He was supposed to introduce some balance to the left riddled and biased Beeb. We are still waiting for some of that.

If the BBC is "left riddled and biased" as you claim, can you (or any member of the Gammonati) explain why they edited the video of Boris getting booed to hide the booing and made no reference to it in their censored version?

 

 

On 6/4/2022 at 1:55 PM, baboon said:

Doff cap, tug forelock. Gawd bless you and your class, guv'nor...

thank you peasant you may return to your hovel..

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Tick tick tick

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/05/boris-johnson-allies-vote-of-no-confidence-conservative-party

This could be good for country, but devastating for the Labour Party......he needs to stay in office and slowly drag the Tories into (sorry, further into) the gutter.

31 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

thank you peasant you may return to your hovel..

Ey, when I were a lad we used to dream of 'avin a hovel

13 hours ago, Loiner said:

Yes, because that’s what it is. Most journos have an intrinsic left leaning bent. I’m surprised you have never noticed it.

Because it doesn’t exist. Mail, Express, Torygraph, Times…. all too lefty for you eh? And just announced to no confidence vote will happen. Tories are such a lefty bunch of woke snowflakes aren’t they ????

5 hours ago, jayboy said:

he's a first rate columnist

…..Who got sacked for lying, and today it might just happen again