Trump brought U.S. ‘dangerously close to catastrophe’, January 6 panel says

[onthedarkside]

 

Rep. Bennie Thompson says U.S. ‘fortunate for Mike Pence’s courage’ in refusing to accept Trump’s scheme to reject electoral count

 

The House select committee investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol on Thursday said Donald Trump’s “dangerous” last-gasp attempt to pressure his vice-president, Mike Pence, to reject the electoral count, brought the country “dangerously close to catastrophe”.

 

With live witnesses and recorded deposition, the panel aimed to show how an increasingly desperate Trump became fixated on a “completely nonsensical and antidemocratic” theory – devised by conservative law professor John Eastman – that Pence, in his role as president of the Senate, could reject the congressional certification of Joe Biden’s win in the 2020 election. The vice-president has no such power.

 

Congressman Bennie Thompson, chairman of the committee and a Democrat of Mississippi, began the session by quoting from the former vice president who said earlier this year that there is “almost no idea more un-American” that one man could choose the president, as Trump was asking him to do.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/16/jan-6-panel-reveal-new-evidence-pressure-from-trump-put-mike-pence-danger

 

 

[onthedarkside]

Ex-judge and Pence advisor accuses Trump of instigating a ‘war on democracy’

 

Retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, who advised Vice President Mike Pence ahead of the Capitol riot, directly accused former President Donald Trump and his allies of waging a “war on democracy” on Jan. 6, 2021.

 

“Our democracy today is on a knife’s edge,” Luttig, a former judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, said in a blistering witness statement shared with CNBC by the select committee.

 

Luttig, one of two witnesses to speak during the committee’s third public hearing, excoriated efforts by Trump and other to overturn the 2020 election, saying that “treacherous plan was no less ambitious than to steal America’s democracy.”

 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/16/trump-capitol-riot-hearing-jan-6-investigators-hold-third-day-of-testimony.html

 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

13 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

With live witnesses and recorded deposition, the panel aimed to show how an increasingly desperate Trump became fixated on a “completely nonsensical and antidemocratic” theory

Well let’s face it, nonsensical sums up his entire presidency. 

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Luttig, one of two witnesses to speak during the committee’s third public hearing, excoriated efforts by Trump and other to overturn the 2020 election, saying that “treacherous plan was no less ambitious than to steal America’s democracy.”

So, we can expect criminal charges soon…

 

 

[PolarAttack]

Is “dangerously close” the same as almost pregnant?  Maybe quit wasting time/money looking in the rear view mirror and focus on your country going forward.

[RichardColeman]

Who'da thought a completely left wing TV panel would find against a right wing person. And before someone calls me anti-Biden , pro Trump, for me it works both ways, unless you have a 50/50 panel its just a party political broadcast that you cannot turn off 

[Skeptic7]

[Trump] is still bringing it. Merrick Garland better get off his thumb soon or this freak could be Conman-in-Chief again, with all the right sycophants in place this time. Goodbye democratic republic...hello ???????? crazy theocratic "dick-tatorship". 

[bbko]

9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Who'da thought a completely left wing TV panel would find against a right wing person. And before someone calls me anti-Biden , pro Trump, for me it works both ways, unless you have a 50/50 panel its just a party political broadcast that you cannot turn off 

Is this guy republican enough for you?

 

“I would have laid my body across the road before I would have let the vice president overturn the 2020 election,” said J. Michael Luttig in testimony to the select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters.

Luttig served as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit for 15 years, and prior to that worked as a lawyer for Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. During his time on the federal bench, Luttig mentored numerous clerks who went on to positions of prominence in conservative legal circles and in Republican politics.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-jan-6-hearing-clear-present-danger-democracy-212115229.html

 

 

[pomchop]

13 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Who'da thought a completely left wing TV panel would find against a right wing person. And before someone calls me anti-Biden , pro Trump, for me it works both ways, unless you have a 50/50 panel its just a party political broadcast that you cannot turn off 

so its ok to try and stage a coup and even when the vast majority of witnesses are republicans see no evil hear no evil because the panel is not 50/50...got it.

[Wrwest]

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

So, we can expect criminal charges soon…

 

 

Na ... I'm thinking the thought is to provide a preponderance of documented evidence so compelling that there will be no one in their right mind (note this allows for those who will continue to support Trump) who will be able to dismiss the evidence as only politically based.

[Road Warrior]

the mans a idiot worse US present yet. why do the yanks love him so much ?? it amazes me !

[bendejo]

Maybe someone at DOJ took a hint from this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-says-jan-6-committee-interview-transcripts-critical-rcna33995

 

 

[Berkshire]

On 6/17/2022 at 6:30 AM, PolarAttack said:

Is “dangerously close” the same as almost pregnant?  Maybe quit wasting time/money looking in the rear view mirror and focus on your country going forward. 

Agree.  Arrest the lying [Trump] already so the country can move forward. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Wrwest said:

Na ... I'm thinking the thought is to provide a preponderance of documented evidence so compelling that there will be no one in their right mind (note this allows for those who will continue to support Trump) who will be able to dismiss the evidence as only politically based.

That’s a shame because gaol is where he belongs. 

[placeholder]

4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Who'da thought a completely left wing TV panel would find against a right wing person. And before someone calls me anti-Biden , pro Trump, for me it works both ways, unless you have a 50/50 panel its just a party political broadcast that you cannot turn off 

Please share with us any previous congressional committee investigations where the numbers are 50-50? For instance, the 7 Benghazi investigations. In fact, the majority party always gets higher representation.

[bbko]

Former Trump Attorney General William Barr, for instance, told the committee that his former boss had "become detached from reality" on the subject of his election loss, adding that Trump had no "interest in what the actual facts were.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-growing-list-of-people-donald-trump-hired-who-eventually-soured-on-him-171720536.html

 

tRump, a true threat to American democracy.

 

[Bundooman]

2 hours ago, Road Warrior said:

the mans a idiot worse US present yet. why do the yanks love him so much ?? it amazes me !

You have to be as dumb as a box of hammers, bigoted, self-important, an accomplished liar, egotistical and ill-educated. Would that be correct? 

[Thingamabob]

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

Catastrophe, dangerously close to catastrophe. It literally is in the title of the thread. Anything else you need clarified?

[rudi49jr]

On 6/17/2022 at 12:14 PM, Thingamabob said:

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

Just look at what happened on January 6th: dangerously close to mob rule. A bunch of ill-informed people were not happy with the outcome of the election, and egged on by Trump and company they decided to storm the Capitol. What would have happened, if they had gotten their hands on Pelosi, AOC or Schumer? Or Mike Pence:
 

[Phoenix Rising]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:36 PM, rudi49jr said:

Just look at what happened on January 6th: dangerously close to mob rule. A bunch of ill-informed people were not happy with the outcome of the election, and egged on by Trump and company they decided to storm the Capitol. What would have happened, if they had gotten their hands on Pelosi, AOC or Schumer? Or Mike Pence:
 

"....ill-informed people....."

 

Kudos to your mother, she raised a polite son.

[rudi49jr]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:43 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

"....ill-informed people....."

 

Kudos to your mother, she raised a polite son.

Thanks.  Better keep it civil and hope people can ‘read between the lines’. ????????

[KhunLA]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:36 PM, rudi49jr said:

Just look at what happened on January 6th: dangerously close to mob rule. A bunch of ill-informed people were not happy with the outcome of the election, and egged on by Trump and company they decided to storm the Capitol. What would have happened, if they had gotten their hands on Pelosi, AOC or Schumer? Or Mike Pence:
 

Terrifying ... ????

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows/

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-police-trump-insurrection-mob

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/protesters-walk-around-on-senate-floor-after-breaking-into-capitol-building-98948677663

[Jingthing]

7 hours ago, Road Warrior said:

the mans a idiot worse US present yet. why do the yanks love him so much ?? it amazes me !

Most don't!

[rudi49jr]

4 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

Yeah, damn those commie-loving liberal snowflakes! Us good ole boys can’t even have ourselves an old fashioned lynching anymore. How dare they take that away from us!

 

 

 

 

[coolcarer]

47 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Terrifying ... ????

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows/

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-police-trump-insurrection-mob

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/protesters-walk-around-on-senate-floor-after-breaking-into-capitol-building-98948677663

Perhaps Pence thought otherwise and managed to get out before the mob got him

 

[heybruce]

On 6/17/2022 at 6:30 AM, PolarAttack said:

Is “dangerously close” the same as almost pregnant?  Maybe quit wasting time/money looking in the rear view mirror and focus on your country going forward.

No, "dangerously close" means crimes were committed and weaknesses in the system were exploited to the point of almost preventing the peaceful transfer of power from one elected President to the next.  The crimes must be investigated and the weaknesses identified and corrected.

 

People who don't look back don't learn from mistakes.  That's not a good thing.

[pomchop]

15 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

see no evil hear no evil.....talk about BS

[Hummin]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Most don't!

Well, I often meet some of those yanks while riding my motorbike around Thailand, and they more than happy to tell me how right Mr Trump was and is about how to get things done, and straight up the whole world. 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Well, I often meet some of those yanks while riding my motorbike around Thailand, and they more than happy to tell me how right Mr Trump was and is about how to get things done, and straight up the whole world. 

Have you ever noticed that intelligent people do not speak as much as dumb people?  Dumb people speak loudly, confidently, and too much.

 

I suspect the way you met those yanks biased your data population towards the dumb side.