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Nearly 6 in 10 Americans say Trump should be charged for Jan. 6 riot--poll


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2 minutes ago, xylophone said:

You seem to have conveniently missed the fact that the $7.8 trillion debt incurred during trump's tenure has anything to do with the current state of affairs with regards to inflation – – but of course it does, and poor Biden has to pick up the pieces.

 

I can think of nothing which "prospered and grew" during the trump administration other than racial hatred, far right activism and gun killings, along with Covid deaths as a result of inaction/slow action.

 

I am not an American and am not a Republican or Democrat supporter, but the political rift which has, and is, tearing the US apart, IMO is fuelled by the likes of trump and his cohorts.

 

And do I really care; no, because the US will get what it deserves if it continues along its current lines and fosters organisations such as "Proud Boys" and "Oath Keepers" and corrupt, lying and dumb presidents.
 

It could just be, that outsider / DT, during 2016 & 2020 elections, and the silliness of the BS years of RussiaGate opened up a lot of eyes of ignorant people.

 

If that didn't expose the whole corrupt system, then Ignorance Truly is Bliss.

 

DT's administration deficit ... did you forget about Bush's & Obama's silly deficits.

https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

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41 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

"Greitens was elected governor of Missouri in 2016, but he resigned less than two years later amid allegations of sexually assaulting and blackmailing a woman with whom he had an extramarital affair.

 

He acknowledged the affair but denied any wrongdoing. Greitens was also accused of misusing a charity donor list to raise campaign funds. Criminal charges against him were ultimately dropped.

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Now, Greitens is one of 21 Republicans running to replace retiring Sen. Roy Blunt."

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/1106228594/a-missouri-senate-candidate-holds-a-shotgun-and-calls-for-rino-hunting-in-a-new-

 

Forum topic on the guy's social media post is here:

 

 

 

A deplorable appealing to the deplorables. Trash the lot of them.

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On 6/20/2022 at 7:15 AM, Luuk Chaai said:

 pay attention ....the only place President Trump is going.. is back to the White House

if you believe anything that comes out of Schiff, ABC, NBC, CNN, Washington Post..  I have a bridge that's for sale

you skipped over the DOJ

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58 minutes ago, bocaBob said:

Those would be state charges by a local Fulton County DA, with decision due on or before June 30.

Which is in Georgia.

I don't think that June 30 date is set in stone but yes probably by then.

I think.it will happen.

 

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56 minutes ago, xylophone said:

You are confusing the budget deficits with the total US debt, which are different things. In addition Obama had to spend "bigly" to overcome the financial crisis, which in part was a result of the Bush administration handing power over to the Wall Street money men/banks to self regulate, which they didn't do, and it was a free for all, and the results were seen and experienced, and the movie, "The Big Short" captured it just about spot on.

 

 Anyway: –

"The deficit is the difference between what the U.S. Government takes in from taxes and other revenues, called receipts, and the amount of money it spends, called outlays. The items included in the deficit are considered either on-budget or off-budget.

You can think of the total debt as accumulated deficits plus accumulated off-budget surpluses. The on-budget deficits require the U.S. Treasury to borrow money to raise cash needed to keep the government operating. It borrows the money by selling securities to the public".

 

As for Bush, well, spending large on the Iraq war looking for WOMD, which didn't exist, and the War on Terrorism, as well as implementing tax cuts, were the main reasons for an increase in US debt.

 

As for the increase in debt under the orange one, well the pandemic didn't help, and neither did the fact that he was late to the game with regards to stopping the spread in the US.

 

All this aside, the man is a proven crook and liar, and I wouldn't trust him with my auntie's donkey.
 

Actually, the budget deficits went up under Trump due to the tax cut bill.

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33 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the budget deficits went up under Trump due to the tax cut bill.

Come to think of it they want a lot further up after Covid hit. But I guess since Khunla blames Obama for the deficits in the wake of the Great Recession, he'll agree it's only fair to blame Trump for the huge deficits incurred in the wake of Covid.

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A series of off-topic, diversion posts on the history of U.S. presidential elections in past decades has been removed.

 

If you don't intend to discuss -- Nearly 6 in 10 Americans say Trump should be charged for Jan. 6 riot--poll -- then this isn't the thread to be posting in.

 

The same is true for federal budget deficit discussions.

 

 

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Lawyers representing MAGA rioter Philip Weisbecker are pleading for leniency for their client on the grounds that he "stood no chance at truly grasping reality" when he stormed the United States Capitol building on January 6th, 2021.

 

In a court filing flagged by CBS News' Scott MacFarlane, Weisbecker's attorneys placed blame on Trump campaign officials who knew that the election had not been stolen from the twice-impeached former president, but nonetheless remained silent as he continued to spread false claims.

 

"When these people failed to correct the narrative, it left a huge informational void that was filled with the likes of conspiracy theorists, online extremists and Trump loyalists willing to manipulate public opinion for their own purposes," the attorneys write.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-rioter-sentence-2657538673/

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39 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Yet more blame apportioned to the wrong people.

 

Trump was invited to speak (under oath) but has refused. He joins a long list of Republicans who have refused to appear to include McCarthy, Jordan, Perry, Biggs and pretty much everyone who backs his election fraud nonsense. And house Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy rejected a bipartisan commission way back in May of 2021 when 2 of his 5 nominees were rejected (although the other 3 were accepted and he could have nominated others). Despite this there are still 2 Republicans on the committee, McCarthy and Kinzinger (and McCarthy was offered an equal number of Republicans to Democrats on the committee but true to form, he refused).

 

You can't throw your toys out of the pram when you were specifically invited to participate but refused to do so. And you certainly can't blame the format or outcome when you had every chance to change it.

Actually, McCarthy rejected the independent commission 2 months before he pulled members out of the jan 6 committee.

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Pelosi agreed to everything the Republicans wanted, except the inclusion of Jim Jordan and Jim Banks whilst approving Rodney Davis, Kelly Armstrong and Troy Nehls even though they had objected to Bidens certification as POTUS.

 

McCarthy then used this as justification to pull out of a committee he was looking to pull out of anyway.  

 

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4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Actually, McCarthy rejected the independent commission 2 months before he pulled members out of the jan 6 committee.

What were they afraid of with an independent commission?

I think we all know that.

They never wanted the truth to come out because they know the truth is damning.

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The absolute number (nearly 6 in 10) is not the number to watch.

 

What matters is the relative change in the numbers.


That change will not come from hard pro/anti Trump supporters but from the moderate middle ground.

 

It’s the moderate middle that swings elections.

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