Liz Truss will 'deliver' on Boris Johnson's tax cuts, says Kwasi Kwarteng

[Mac Mickmanus]

36 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So the fact that it takes longer to inspect a non-EU passport has in no way contributed to the delay?

Why would it take longer to inspect a UK passport , rather than a UK passport with E.U written on the front of it 

[Thingamabob]

What a puerile sequence of postings. Things could be a lot worse. Time to grow up.

[BusyB]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The current UK /Baht exchange rate is the same as it was nine years ago  , it was about 44 in 2013 and its about 44 in 2022 .

   The current Baht/Pound exchange rate is the same as when the U.K was part of the E.U in 2013

The GBP has lost dramatically as a result of Brexit.

It hasn't been above EUR1.20 since the referendumb.

It's currently at 1.18 - and that against a EUR that is dramatically weakened against USD. (Almost parity for only the 2nd time since its inception - 20 years ago.)

It used to be over EUR1.40.

The UK is run by a gaggle of provenly incompetent nutters whom a nutty populace keeps on electing without question.

 

[BusyB]

9 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why would it take longer to inspect a UK passport , rather than a UK passport with E.U written on the front of it 

You ignored (ignorance in its truest form) the point I made that they didn't get checked before you voted to become a third country.

[BusyB]

11 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

What a puerile sequence of postings. Things could be a lot worse. Time to grow up.

The UK long ago left the adult world.

[BusyB]

To correct my earlier post which I can no longer edit:

 

UK left EU on 01st January 2021 (not 31st as I wrote). That's when all the new regulations came into effect, many of which the UK government is still trying to hide from a duped population.

 

And:

Post-Brexit travel rules - post 01st January 2021 - mean British nationals may stay in the Schengen zone for no more than 90 out of any 180-day period. Until a fully automated border system is operational, passport stamps are now required at most entry and exit points, significantly increasing processing times. (Not 180 days a year as I think I said - can't be bothered to check exactly now).

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

19 minutes ago, BusyB said:

You ignored (ignorance in its truest form) the point I made that they didn't get checked before you voted to become a third country.

Although I was replying to a post prior to your reply  and I hadn't yet read your post , so it wasn't "ignorance" .

[BusyB]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although I was replying to a post prior to your reply  and I hadn't yet read your post , so it wasn't "ignorance" .

My apologies.

[NoshowJones]

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

So your defense of the Conservatives is that their performance was bad but Labour's would have been worse?

That is exactly the way I see it.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This is the kind of nonsense  delivers Governments that are not representative of the people by means of deterring voter participation.

 

There are very clear differences between the major parties, the one in power has a record of corruption, law breaking and incompetence. 
 

 

and labour don't???? Think Blair and Brown?? Invasion of Iraq. and also think of the scandal involving Brown and pensions.

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, mrfill said:

44.9739 was its low point - the average was more like 48-49. After mid-August 2013 it remained at over 50 until year end.

Chart and table of daily rates if you wish to bicker https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/GBP-THB-spot-exchange-rates-history-2013.html

Yes. it was over 50Bt to the £ around the time the present unelected PM and his soldiers stole the country in 2014.

[Loiner]

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

So your defense of the Conservatives is that their performance was bad but Labour's would have been worse?

Unequivocally yes, Labour's performance would have been worse than whatever you think the Conservatives have done. Blair & Brown's previous tenure in government proved that. 
My post was pointing out that Labour had/has no solutions to the anti-Boris twisted spin lifted from the Garuniad and some socialist (up the workers) website. Labour never will have. Have you got any proposals to how you would have avoided the current situation?

[Loiner]

19 hours ago, placeholder said:

Under the Tories, the rich got richer whilst the middle class, working class and poor got poorer.

Well at least some of us are doing OK out of it. Glad Liz Truss will make it even better for us, I could do with a large tax cut because I'm not happy where my hard earned taxes are going now. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Yes. it was over 50Bt to the £ around the time the present unelected PM and his soldiers stole the country in 2014.

Well , when Tony Blair was PM in 1997 , the exchange rate was 87 Baht to the Pound , and at the end of Labours tenure which  ended in 2010 , the exchange rate was 48 to the Pound 

[BusyB]

38 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

and labour don't???? Think Blair and Brown?? Invasion of Iraq. and also think of the scandal involving Brown and pensions.

 

It's not about 'Labour' or Tory. It's systemic. It's an inevitable result of the electoral system, in which a government never in any way reflects the will of the country as a whole and can just inflict any amount of damage it deems 'necessary' for its own ends.

 

And they will never change it unless forced to because it would mean the end of their two party monopoly privileges and entitlements. It's what's more commonly known as the establishment, and they've got you all well divided and ruled 555. 

 

If 'Labour' is elected it won't change anything meaningful anyway, because they want their own way and don't want to take anyone else into account, even if that is a majority of voters. And if they don't get elected ... well 'opposition' is also a cool gig. Lots of contacts, freebies, a good future as a dinner speaker, face on TV, sinecures in all those companies that have made sure you don't change anything meaningful. And all that without even having the responsibility of being in office. Nice work if you can get it.

 

What amazes me is that so many people are happy to settle for this archaic garbage.

 

I certainly wasn't and got out a long time ago - well before they served you up with austerity and Brexit.

 

But if you're enjoying it - fine: enjoy!

 

[BusyB]

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well , when Tony Blair was PM in 1997 , the exchange rate was 87 Baht to the Pound , and at the end of Labours tenure which  ended in 2010 , the exchange rate was 48 to the Pound 

But of course you know that that was due to the Tom Yum crash, and the gradual recovery afterwards don't you. Had nothing to do with 'Labour' or even the Tories. 

[Slip]

6 hours ago, roquefort said:

Exactly. The current crop of politicians on both sides is the worst in living memory. Believing that changing one set of clowns for another is going to improve anything is living in cloud cuckoo land.

You miss the point.  The "all politicians are as bad as us" thing is a right wing trope.  As long as the Tories go there should be some improvement.

 

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why would it take longer to inspect a UK passport , rather than a UK passport with E.U written on the front of it 

Who does it take longer for a foreigner to pass through border control of a county than a citizen of that country?

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Who does it take longer for a foreigner to pass through border control of a county than a citizen of that country?

I don't know, that is why I asked you that question .

I asked you a question and you replied asking me the same question back !!!!!!!!

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Slip said:

You miss the point.  The "all politicians are as bad as us" thing is a right wing trope.  As long as the Tories go there should be some improvement.

 

Not so. We have already seen that Labour is always worse that the Tories have ever been. Things would be much worse under Labour.

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't know, that is why I asked you that question .

I asked you a question and you replied asking me the same question back !!!!!!!!

Because you're not a citizen of the country or, in this case the EU.. So you're outside the system and require more checking. Surely as a Brexiter you understand the need for greater security when it comes to outsiders.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Because you're not a citizen of the country or, in this case the EU.. So you're outside the system and require more checking. Surely as a Brexiter you understand the need for greater security when it comes to outsiders.

Yes, and I really hope that we have our own entrances at PP control

 FRENCH            E.U CITIZENS            BRITISH        REST OF WORLD

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Well at least some of us are doing OK out of it. Glad Liz Truss will make it even better for us, I could do with a large tax cut because I'm not happy where my hard earned taxes are going now. 

I wonder what introducing tax cuts into an economy already experiencing painfully high inflation will do?

[Chomper Higgot]

45 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, and I really hope that we have our own entrances at PP control

 FRENCH            E.U CITIZENS            BRITISH        REST OF WORLD

Well the UK has its own lorry parks around the ports.

 

I wonder why they suddenly became necessary?

 

I wonder too how much the post Brexit paperwork and delays are costing the UK economy?

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Loiner]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I wonder what introducing tax cuts into an economy already experiencing painfully high inflation will do?

Make me richer, as one of your previous anti-Tory posters claimed. 

[sandyf]

17 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do a websearch and find out that its true .

Put *Pound Baht exchange rate 2013* into a google search engine .

Here , I will do it for you :

 

Monday 22 April 2013

£1 GBP = ฿43.8479

 

Quite meaningless. From 22 April 2013 it was about 3 and a half years before the rate was near 44 again.

 

Tell us what the average rate of exchange was between 22 April 2013 and the brexit vote.

Then tell us what the average rate of exchange was between the brexit vote and today.

Of course you are perfectly free to believe they are the same, doesn't make it fact.

[sandyf]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I wonder too how much the post Brexit paperwork and delays are costing the UK economy?

About the same as before the single market came about.

In the early 80s I took some medical ovens in a car to a customer in the south of France, paperwork at Dover was a nightmare.

Small business did not want to deal with Europe then and the same will happen.

England voted to put back border controls and now they want to complain about it.

[transam]

15 hours ago, BusyB said:

The UK long ago left the adult world.

Can you explain that, just for me.........????

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Can you explain that, just for me.........????

I can explain it.

The UK party in power believes in fairy tales.

Like Brexit will be good for the economy.

Or tax cuts will pay for themselves and fight inflation.

[Rimmer]

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Liz Truss will 'deliver' on Boris Johnson's tax cuts, says Kwasi Kwarteng