Nearly one in three Americans say it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the government

[Credo]

8 hours ago, baboon said:

Sorry, HOA?

Home Owners Association -- a group that controls everything you can do with your home.  They decide what color you can paint it, they decide if you can add on to your home.  They decide anything and everything having to do with your home.  They decide how many pets you can have, how big your dog can be (my area is no bigger than 25 pounds), etc.

 

They are a group of Karens on steroids.

[userabcd]

Best to take away all online social media from everyone and restrict the internet to govt and business information and services, news information only and email communication.

 

If people want to communicate their their viewpoint they do it in an email, by phone or letter.

 

Then everyone will calm down.

Edited July 26, 2022 by userabcd

[Pouatchee]

10 hours ago, Credo said:

.....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box.  

That is rigged as well.

[bradiston]

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

28% of 1000 polled, 280 people of the 350ish million Yanks

or 0.00008% ????  ... stop already

 

37% of those 28% (108 people) actually own guns.  Watch out Wash DC ????

https://uchicagopolitics.opalstacked.com/uploads/homepage/Polarization-Poll.pdf

 

the guardian ran that little tidbit last month.  that's embarrassing they are down to rag level, with the mail & sun.

 

with the hill regurgitating it yesterday.  think I'll stick to the news that isn't allowed here.

 

 

This is a poll, aka survey. A poll doesn't ask 100% of the population. That's called an election. The way things are going in the US, the next will be settled by shoot out. That should clear the air.

[HappyExpat57]

10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

No, it's unconstitutional.

 

Realistic it would never occur anyway. Red states can't afford to seceed.

 

So in aggregate, the federal government transfers wealth from the blue states to the red states.

Blue staters, on the other hand, ease the consumption gap by saving more and purchasing durable goods. Of course, poorer households often cannot save and thus must rely on fiscal transfers, so this red state-blue state gap might just be the result of wealth disparities between the two cohorts.

 

https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2018/03/13/red-states-blue-states-two-economies-one-nation/

Not entirely correct. A state CAN secede if a majority of the remaining states agree. Will that ever happen? I highly doubt it.

[Tropposurfer]

10 hours ago, Credo said:

.....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box.  

 

I agree ... but ... that would be far too moderate, considered, civilised, mature, and sane though Credo

[Road Warrior]

10 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

This is what happens when your country hasn't been at war with anyone for a year.

could well be very true ,yanks like wars !!!!

[BangkokHank]

10 hours ago, Credo said:

.....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box.  

 

What will that achieve - now that the Democrats have figured out that they can just steal the elections?

[robblok]

10 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

as a Yank i agree nearly 1 in 3 Americans are idiots--We call them MAGA.....

 

 

I wonder how realistic this is, i mean this is crazy. Taking arms up against the government. Are they sore election losers or what ? I mean Trump did not do much good with inciting the public. 

 

What a mess hope its less bad then it sounds.

Edited July 26, 2022 by robblok

[Berkshire]

The question is pretty loaded.  When they say "government," who are they referring to?  The military?  DOJ?  USAID?  Police?  Fireman?  Postal workers?  IRS?  VA doctors?  FDA?  It's pretty vast.

 

I'd say that I largely trust career government employees.  But these politicians in Congress and at the state level?  If they're Republican, probably not trust-worthy.  Republicans these days seem to have great difficulty just telling the truth. 

[metisdead]

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[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

What will that achieve - now that the Democrats have figured out that they can just steal the elections?

Your a vote for taking up arms then...............????

[Thailand]

9 hours ago, shdmn said:

Most of those same people probably couldn't make it out of the Applebee's parking lot without their mobility scooters.

 

Where are they hiding their assault rifles?

[BangkokHank]

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your a vote for taking up arms then...............????

Absolutely. It is precisely for this situation that our founding fathers affirmed our right to keep and bear arms.

Edited July 26, 2022 by BangkokHank

[jvs]

3 hours ago, Patrick3066 said:

It could happen as the Democratic left has gone full blown in Socialist ideology’s ; they have open the Southern border with little intervention into the 100,000 illegal foreigners coming EACH MONTH. They have ceased domestic oil production doubling our fuel prices and are openly attacking the Second Amendment and supporting Woke <deleted>. There are no boundaries now. 

Welcome to the forum!Did you clean your gun today?

[Gecko123]

It's motivated by identity politics and a sense of entitlement. It's most certainly not motivated by a love of democracy, or truth, or a desire to make the playing field fair for everyone. In fact, just the opposite.

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Absolutely. It is precisely for this situation that our founding fathers affirmed our right to keep and bear arms.

How sad, in other developed countries they use the voting system aka democracy

[spidermike007]

I do think we will see alot of anarchy in the years to come. It might be directed towards government. But, it might be directed towards top executives of banks, insurance companies, Big Pharma and Wall street too. Few will weep. 

[300sd]

The US is so divided it will never go back. There is so much hate between the left and right that they will have to separate. Destroyed from within. What idiots!

[userabcd]

32 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Absolutely. It is precisely for this situation that our founding fathers affirmed our right to keep and bear arms.

The US would be more safe if it were these arms to which the founding fathers referred

[Andycoops]

And can you imagine the anarchy that follows if they are successful.

It will turn them into a laughing stock and set them back 200 years with numbskulls running the place.

The corruption is in wall street and the big corporations and the 1% of their citizens who hold 99% of the wealth.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Andycoops

[BangkokHank]

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How sad, in other developed countries they use the voting system aka democracy

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections. You approve of the theft because the party you favor "won" the election this time. But what happens next time, if the other part steals the election? Will you still be in favor of rigged elections then? When trust in the election system is gone, the whole concept of democracy breaks down. And I'd say we're already at that point.

[peterfranks]

3 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections.

I think the Republicans figured that out 4 years earlier

[Emdog]

4 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections. You approve of the theft because the party you favor "won" the election this time. But what happens next time, if the other part steals the election? Will you still be in favor of rigged elections then? When trust in the election system is gone, the whole concept of democracy breaks down. And I'd say we're already at that point.

the willful ignorance of :election was stolen" crowd is breathtaking. Are you going to say Trump's AG was part of deep state when he clearly stated there was no maningful vote fraud? The cyber ninja foolishness in Arizona that found Biden won by a larger margin, much to their chagrin. And they're fine with Trump on recording telling Ga sec of state to "find him" 11k votes or bad things will happen to him....

Trump lost, and not through theft. Grow up and get real. You have been played

[Berkshire]

5 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections. You approve of the theft because the party you favor "won" the election this time. But what happens next time, if the other part steals the election? Will you still be in favor of rigged elections then? When trust in the election system is gone, the whole concept of democracy breaks down. And I'd say we're already at that point.

Donald Trump was President when the 2020 election took place.  His own administration has confirmed that there was no massive fraud that could have changed the outcome.  To date, no evidence has surfaced of such a fraud anywhere in the USA, even after multiple recounts, investigations, audits, court cases, etc.  For anyone to still believe that massive fraud took place, you'd have to be off-the-charts delusional.  Would that be you?

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

1 in 3 say its time to take up arms against the govt. now while Biden is president because the brainwashed cult IS the 1 in 3. If their dear cult leader was back in office those numbers would not exist

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Voting no longer has any meaning - now that the Democrats have realized that they can get away with stealing elections. You approve of the theft because the party you favor "won" the election this time. But what happens next time, if the other part steals the election? Will you still be in favor of rigged elections then? When trust in the election system is gone, the whole concept of democracy breaks down. And I'd say we're already at that point.

You can't say election is rigged without an iota of prove (none in 60 court cases) just because you didn't like the outcome. By the way, majority of Americans trust that elections are fair, are confident in their state and local governments'ability to administer elections, and trust the results regardless of whether their preferred candidate win. Only the majority of Republicans who bought into Trump's lies about nonexistent widespread fraud still think election was rigged. Mostly those without college degrees. Those with college degree trust elections. Facts matter. 

[Credo]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Not entirely correct. A state CAN secede if a majority of the remaining states agree. Will that ever happen? I highly doubt it.

The Constitution makes no provision for secession.

 

[Doctor Tom]

Oh right, so one in three Americans are morons. are unstable and have unacceptably low IQ, and who clearly think they live in Russia or North Korea,  that is quite a statistic.  Of course, with the evidence of who they voting in for their last 2 Presidents,  their propensity to kill their children in school shootings, and cops that kill unarmed people at the drop of a hat, we knew that already. 

[Excel]

2 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Oh right, so one in three Americans are morons. are unstable and have unacceptably low IQ, and who clearly think they live in Russia or North Korea,  that is quite a statistic.  Of course, with the evidence of who they voting in for their last 2 Presidents,  their propensity to kill their children in school shootings, and cops that kill unarmed people at the drop of a hat, we knew that already. 

What sad reflection though of what the US has become for whatever reason.