Condo Owner Fined Over 140,000 Baht For Keeping A Pet In The Unit

[blackshadow]

2 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

It was a goldfish. .

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could have been a PARROT fish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

"According to Rule 1, item 9.2 it is forbidden to keep all kinds of animals, such as those that create a nuisance and frighten people,  in the condominium or the condominium area."

 

Why not just state cats or dogs?

Because dogs and cats are not the only animals that are banned.

[connda]

5 hours ago, wombat said:

Lesson for the day kiddies is don't upset the Juristic person.

Lesson of the day - Don't buy a condo unless you love living under the thumb of regulations.

For the price of a condo you can buy a house instead.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

Thai people keep all types of animals as pets: eg. rabbits, guinea pigs, snakes, rats, mice... the list goes on. "animals" will cover most of them with the exception of insects and other invertibrates.

Insect and invertebrates are "animals" also!

Edited August 15, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[pattjock]

8 minutes ago, connda said:

Lesson of the day - Don't buy a condo unless you love living under the thumb of regulations.

For the price of a condo you can buy a house instead.

I prefer to live in a condo that ban animals compared to a house surrounded by other houses with noisy dogs that you can do nothing about.

 

Most condo rules are there to make it nicer to live in the condo and they have been voted in by a majority of the condo owners.

 

You are not living under the thumb of regulations, you are enjoying the environment the regulations create.

 

Lesson to learn is to read the regulations before buying or renting. Don,t buy in to a condo that bans pets if you want to have a pet.

[mikeymike100]

5 minutes ago, pattjock said:

I prefer to live in a condo that ban animals compared to a house surrounded by other houses with noisy dogs that you can do nothing about.

 

Most condo rules are there to make it nicer to live in the condo and they have been voted in by a majority of the condo owners.

 

You are not living under the thumb of regulations, you are enjoying the environment the regulations create.

 

Lesson to learn is to read the regulations before buying or renting. Don,t buy in to a condo that bans pets if you want to have a pet.

Quite so, plus foreigners would have difficulty buying a house, well at least the land its on.

[mahjongguy]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, within the bounds of the job, of course it does.

Please keep in mind that a Juristic Person is not a person. It is a legal structure whereby a group of people can act jointly (e.g. collect fees, pay for repairs, etc.). The Juristic Person Manager is an actual person, always a unit owner, often a Committee member, serving the will of the Committee. Often acts as supervisor of the Business Manager (if any). 

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, mahjongguy said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, within the bounds of the job, of course it does.

Please keep in mind that a Juristic Person is not a person. It is a legal structure

I know exactly what it is, thanks.   That's why I wrote ""the job", not "his/her job".

[NancyL]

The fine of 500 baht/day once notice is given is probably spelled out in the condo rules.

 

The correct course of action would have been for the condo owner to lobby other condo owners to modify the rules.  That's what happened in our building where it was evident that the problem was out-of-control owners of dogs, but not other animals.  For a time, all animals were banned, but existing pets were "grandfathered".

 

After owner input, the rules were changed so that pets that remain in the condo and are only taken out of the unit in an appropriate carrier are permitted.  And rules are specific as to how many cats, specifically, an owner can have based on the size of the unit.  It's enforced, too.  

[Gandtee]

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

It was a goldfish. .

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Smoke me a kipper!

[newnative]

4 hours ago, connda said:

Lesson of the day - Don't buy a condo unless you love living under the thumb of regulations.

For the price of a condo you can buy a house instead.

    Absolutely true.  Things are topsy turvy here.  I could never afford a house in the US when I lived there.  The biggest place I ever owned was a 2 bedroom condo, most were smallish 1 bedrooms.  Even a townhouse was priced out of my financial reach.  Single family?  Forget it.  

    This year, my partner and I sold a 79sqm 1 bedroom, 1 bath seaview condo in Pattaya for 9MB.   Turned around and bought a 3 bedroom, 4 bath pool villa in a nice, gated project by Lake Mabprachan for 7MB.  We'll do some improvements and be at about 8MB.  Still a million less than the 1 bedroom condo.  Plenty of other single family homes available for less than what we paid--and less than lots of condos.  Topsy turvy--in a good way if you prefer a house.

    

   

[AustinRacing]

10 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

"According to Rule 1, item 9.2 it is forbidden to keep all kinds of animals, such as those that create a nuisance and frighten people,  in the condominium or the condominium area."

 

Why not just state cats or dogs?

I had a girlfriend who fitted the description. So I let her go to avoid a fine. 

[PoorSucker]

15 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

I believe goldfish are allowed?

I have a Venus fly trap as a pet. 

[PoorSucker]

7 hours ago, newnative said:

This year, my partner and I sold a 79sqm 1 bedroom, 1 bath seaview condo

I pay 6.500 in rent per month , 12 floor central Pattaya with partial Seaview, fully furnished, 40sqm. 

[PoorSucker]

16 hours ago, pattjock said:

The fine was 500Baht per day from when he was given notice

In my condo all fines start at 2000

[balo]

What about snakes living in the toilet, are they allowed? 

[The Hammer2021]

18 hours ago, Orinoco said:

Surprised he never got 10 years in jail  as well.

OTT out of touch justice system of Thailand.

or maybe a little share out of the booty latter.

 

Of he had paid  the fine immediately it would have been much less. I,   and I suspect hundreds more, will  thoughroughly applaud this action  and result.

[The Hammer2021]

13 hours ago, connda said:

Lesson of the day - Don't buy a condo unless you love living under the thumb of regulations.

For the price of a condo you can buy a house instead.

Learn to respect the rules  you  have agrees to in the  contract . Learn to  respect  your neighbors.

[The Hammer2021]

19 hours ago, wombat said:

Lesson for the day kiddies is don't upset the Juristic person.

The Juristic  person is our representative and support in the  smooth running of the condo.

[The Hammer2021]

If you want to keep a dog then choose the appropriate  condo that  allows  them. Its really  simple.

[newnative]

10 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

I pay 6.500 in rent per month , 12 floor central Pattaya with partial Seaview, fully furnished, 40sqm. 

    Sounds good.   For me, that's one of the big pluses of living in Pattaya;  the extremely wide variety of housing available in all price ranges, both to rent or to buy, depending on one's preference.   That's certainly not the case in the town where I used to live in the US.

[JonnyF]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:12 AM, mikeymike100 said:

Why not just state cats or dogs?

That would be much too clear.

 

Better to make a rule that is subject to interpretation. That way, the decision is essentially left up to the jurustic person and the rule can be bent if the owner is rich, unusually attractive, famous, flirtatious, offers some cash etc. 

[BonMot]

What were the damages? Oh yeah, this is Thailand.

 

Extrajudicial fines.

 

 

 

Meanwhile on the Airbnb site....

[BonMot]

15 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The Juristic  person is our representative and support in the  smooth running of the condo.

Smooth criminals running money into their pockets is more like it.

[proton]

On 8/15/2022 at 8:50 AM, phetphet said:

140,000 baht? What pet was he/she keeping? An Elephant?

No, what too many cannot seem to live without- a Dog pest

[The Hammer2021]

21 hours ago, JonnyF said:

That would be much too clear.

 

Better to make a rule that is subject to interpretation. That way, the decision is essentially left up to the jurustic person and the rule can be bent if the owner is rich, unusually attractive, famous, flirtatious, offers some cash etc. 

It's the tenants/ owners committee who empower the Juristic  person to enforce the condo rules and regulations

[jacko45k]

On 8/15/2022 at 7:03 AM, mrfill said:

What was it? A pet rhinoceros???

You heard the story about the elephant in the room?