Popular Post webfact Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 Picture: KomChadLuek Police from Thailand's Economic Crime Division arrested a 57 year old British CEO at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday. Mark Kirkham had just arrived back in Thailand from Singapore. He was named in a warrant issued by the South Bangkok Court in December of last year for taking part in a swindle involving property and stocks. Many complaints were made to the Securities and Exchange Commission after investors were told they could get returns of 7-11% in a foreign fund. Picture: KomChadLuek They were unable to get their investment back and losses totalled 40 million baht. Mr Kirkham denies everything. He is the CEO of PFS International Consultants based in Bangkok. This company was previously known as Barclay Spencer International, reported KomChadLuek. He was detained by Region 3 of the ECD police in relation to the inquiry. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-10-07 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 2 3
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, webfact said: He is the CEO of PFS International Consultants based in Bangkok. This company was previously known as Barclay Spencer International Hmm, both company names appear to be very similar to companies registered elsewhere in the world, U.K. and Switzerland… https://opencorpdata.com/offshore/barclay-spencer-international-consultants-s-a https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08509007
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 And so he should damn well have been arrested. If for nothing else then for wandering around aged 57 wearing tracksuit trousers and gym shoes ! 1 1 1 7
Popular Post ezzra Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 He's either an idiot for coming back or innocent, but even so, you don't come back to a country like Thailand knowing they are looking for you, innocent or otherwise... 7 1 3
Popular Post novacova Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, ezzra said: He's either an idiot for coming back or innocent, but even so, you don't come back to a country like Thailand knowing they are looking for you, innocent or otherwise... I’m glad he came back. It go’s to show how stupid criminals typically are. 3
Aussieroaming Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I love it, CEO sounds great while you are trying to bleed each investor dry. How many other shelf companies is he the CEO of. Soon to be CEO of the Bangkok Hilton's Expat Accomodation Company. 2
Peterphuket Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Strange, why do they take the first photo at the departure hall. 1 1
khunpa Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 I invested in ETH when it was at USD3200. I hope they arrest Vitalik Buterin if he ever turns up here… 2
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 Is it possible that this was a legitimate fund that did not perform well due to the massive global covid crisis and the fact that everything went to <deleted> for a couple of years? 2 1 1 2
khunpa Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ukrules said: Is it possible that this was a legitimate fund that did not perform well due to the massive global covid crisis and the fact that everything went to <deleted> for a couple of years? Yes, that is possible and could explain why the guy came back. But Thai people do not like losing money and someone has to pay for the missing returns. 1
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 Doesn't he know that property and stock swindles are a reserved occupation open to Thai nationals only! 1 2 1
Walker88 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Barclay-Spencer? Was Apple-Tesla already taken? BTW, returns of 7-11% back when rates were under 2% should have rung a few bells, save for in the heads of those who believe in free lunches. 1 1
Puccini Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, ukrules said: Is it possible that this was a legitimate fund that did not perform well due to the massive global covid crisis and the fact that everything went to <deleted> for a couple of years? Everything is possible, but the scenario you describe is highly unlikely. At any rate, the OP is so extremely short on details about the alleged investment fund that any speculation on this subject is unwarranted.
Popular Post homeseeker Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 Golden rule: Never trust a financial adviser based in Thailand. 3 2
off road pat Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, khunpa said: Yes, that is possible and could explain why the guy came back. But Thai people do not like losing money and someone has to pay for the missing returns. ..."Thai people do not like losing money"... do you know anybody that likes to loose money !?!?!?
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Aussieroaming said: I love it, CEO sounds great while you are trying to bleed each investor dry. How many other shelf companies is he the CEO of. Soon to be CEO of the Bangkok Hilton's Expat Accomodation Company. Yep. I'm the CEO of my house...acrually my wife is. I'm the CFO... 2 2
Popular Post KhunLA Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: Yep. I'm the CEO of my house...acrually my wife is. I'm the CFO... I'm the squatter ... 1 1 2
ukrules Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, khunpa said: Yes, that is possible and could explain why the guy came back. But Thai people do not like losing money and someone has to pay for the missing returns. With every investment comes a certain amount of risk so yes, the investor pays.
Popular Post rwill Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 I just wonder if this was a real scam or if he was handling investments for people and the market had a downturn and they were upset. A couple of years ago everything crashed pretty hard due to covid. 3
aussienam Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, rwill said: I just wonder if this was a real scam or if he was handling investments for people and the market had a downturn and they were upset. A couple of years ago everything crashed pretty hard due to covid. You'd hope the evidence and other verified information in the hands of the police investigation would either confirm or deny his claimed legitimacy. Forensic analysis by qualified accountants and the fraud investigation officers would likely be the guys to have a chat with!
PETERTHEEATER Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 12 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: And so he should damn well have been arrested. If for nothing else then for wandering around aged 57 wearing tracksuit trousers and gym shoes ! You forgot to mention the parachute. He could also be an illegal base jumper........
Gottfrid Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Hmm, both company names appear to be very similar to companies registered elsewhere in the world, U.K. and Switzerland… https://opencorpdata.com/offshore/barclay-spencer-international-consultants-s-a https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08509007 Yeah, that is why they call it a swindle. You know, ABC in a good swindle, is to have a searchable name, when you call yourself a division office in a foreign country.
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Just now, Gottfrid said: Yeah, that is why they call it a swindle. You know, ABC in a good swindle, is to have a searchable name, when you call yourself a division office in a foreign country. That was my point… duh
Sparktrader Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Walker88 said: Barclay-Spencer? Was Apple-Tesla already taken? BTW, returns of 7-11% back when rates were under 2% should have rung a few bells, save for in the heads of those who believe in free lunches. Bhp was yielding 11% 1
Puccini Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Sparktrader said: Bhp was yielding 11% What do you mean with Bhp?
persimmon Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 During the Covid crash , some property funds were temporarily closed due to the illiquid nature of the assets . It can take months to sell real estate so if lots of investors want their money out at the same time , this causes a problem . Stocks in very small companies can also be difficult to liquidate in a crisis . Still , I would expect most investors should have got back some money by now . Unless , of course , it`s all a scam ( the name sounds suspicious to me ).
JeffersLos Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Bluespunk said: both company names appear to be very similar to companies registered elsewhere in the world, U.K. and Switzerland… Seems he dreamt up the return % buying some milk and bread. 15 hours ago, webfact said: returns of 7-11%
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 15 hours ago, ukrules said: Is it possible that this was a legitimate fund that did not perform well due to the massive global covid crisis and the fact that everything went to <deleted> for a couple of years? Nope. platinum Financial Services, Barclay Spencer etc were scamming expats for two decades. Thai SEC only took action against them in 2016 for operating without securities licenses. Going back to the early 2000s people were complaining to the SEC about them and other unlicensed fake financial advisers but the SEC always refused to take action because they were careful to avoid targeting Thais. One of the other directors, Andrew Wood, used to run a financial advice column in the Bangkok Post. Complaints to the Post board went unanswered. Good to see he is being asked to account for a fraction of the scams. 4
Dogmatix Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 The Thai Revenue Department should also go after the fake expat financial advisors for tax like Al Capone. Their business model was to set up companies in Bangkok that ostensibly provided administrative services for offshore financial advisors and funds. But actually they were selling the Ponzi schemes and fake funds in Thailand with income booked offshore that should have been declared for Thai tax, since it was generated in Thailand. 40m is a very low ball estimate of the scams they have done over the years. I remember stories of people being threatened they would be kicked out of the country, if they didn’t stop asking for their money back. Obviously they did have good police connections in those days but their luck seems to have run out, since the SEC started to take complaints by foreigners seriously. Good for them. 1
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 7, 2022 Barclay Spencer, the forerunner of this shyster’s Platinum Financial Services ponzi management group in Pacific Place was one of my first experiences of cold callers by fake financial advisors in the late 90s. Young Brits would call up claiming to be operating as UK licensed IFAs which was impossible because the UK doesn’t license anyone to operate outside the UK and they weren’t licensed in the UK anyway. They would burble away reading from their scrips trying to get a meeting. At first I would ask them questions about their Thai securities license for which a knowledge of Thai was required in those days or their work permit or sometimes a tough question about investments but they always batted it off with answers from the script like saying they would arrange a meeting with their boss to answer that one or call over the supervisor. Eventually I used a trick learned from the book Liar’s Poker. Just put the receiver in the desk drawer and leave the idiots burbling away to themselves. One of them called back and lost his rag with my secretary. 3
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