Any GWM Haval H6 or Jolion owners out there ?

[Andrew Dwyer]

As the title suggests I am looking for any feedback from anyone who owns a GWM Haval H6 or Jolion .

Anything either good or bad related to the car’s reliability , comfort , mileage etc or aftermarket service etc .

 

TIA

Andy

[digbeth]

Jolion has a well known mileage issue that they can't fix yet

various thai groups in facebook 

 

Reliability wise the H6 hasn't shown any serious defect 

[Andrew Dwyer]

25 minutes ago, digbeth said:

Jolion has a well known mileage issue that they can't fix yet

various thai groups in facebook 

 

Reliability wise the H6 hasn't shown any serious defect 

I did join a FB group about Jolion in Australia but they have only recently got the Hybrid there so not too much info.

Although I did see one thread quoting poor mileage figures ( 700km on a full tank of 91 fuel, a 55L fuel tank I think ) and being on a par with the mileage of the petrol versions which wasn’t very encouraging.

[Gweiloman]

I believe a lot of the Oz reviews are of the first gen Haval which has a 2l engine which is not available in Thailand. 
There are also newer reviews of the hybrid model with the 1.5l turbo charged engine which gives better mileage.

I have gone for the PHEV but have not received any updates as to the delivery date. It’s promised for no later than end December.

[JBChiangRai]

My daughter test drove the Jolion but sitting in the passenger seat I found the NVH (noise vibration harshness) considerably the worst in class and we quickly discounted it.  It also rides a bit firm.

[Lacessit]

I don't know anything about them. This guy does.

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

39 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I don't know anything about them. This guy does.

 

 

Does he ?

I don’t see him mentioning either of the models the topic is related to .

[Andrew Dwyer]

11 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I believe a lot of the Oz reviews are of the first gen Haval which has a 2l engine which is not available in Thailand. 
There are also newer reviews of the hybrid model with the 1.5l turbo charged engine which gives better mileage.

I have gone for the PHEV but have not received any updates as to the delivery date. It’s promised for no later than end December.

Thanks, i was hoping for a more conservative price on the H6 PHEV but it is a little out of my range tbh. Am aiming more towards the Jolion as it suits me better size wise but would have liked to have gone for a PHEV, maybe a Jolion PHEV in a few years ?

 

Some of the reviews give a different picture regarding fuel usage, a couple of recent reviews from NZ ( Autocar and Driven ) give a 1000 km range from a full tank so hoping to get some first hand experience on here.

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Does he ?

I don’t see him mentioning either of the models the topic is related to .

I am beginning to think it is a waste of my time trying to help posters on ASEAN. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I am beginning to think it is a waste of my time trying to help posters on ASEAN. Thanks for the confirmation.

If you asked for info on a new Ford Ranger and i sent you a video about the Ford Fiesta gearbox issues would you think it helpful ?

 

Yes, you are wasting your time …… and everyone else’s .

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

If you asked for info on a new Ford Ranger and i sent you a video about the Ford Fiesta gearbox issues would you think it helpful ?

 

Yes, you are wasting your time …… and everyone else’s .

On ignore now, so neither of us waste our time.

[unheard]

On 10/19/2022 at 12:45 PM, Lacessit said:

I am beginning to think it is a waste of my time trying to help posters on ASEAN. Thanks for the confirmation.

Thank you for the link. ????

The subject matter discussed in the video is very much relevant to the OP's question.

[DaRoadrunner]

Resale value is a big problem with Chinese cars.

[Andrew Dwyer]

51 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Resale value is a big problem with Chinese cars.

Yes, that’s definitely something to think about, I have heard that MG’s don’t get good resale prices, GWM probably not such a given as only on the market here for less than a year.

[seedy]

The shop I use to service our fleet passed on some interesting facts re: MG ...

Seems CP Group owns the dealership in Thailand, and they have special offers for Thai Gov't employees.

Hence the number of vehicles available on the second hand market.

 

[DavisH]

4 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Yes, that’s definitely something to think about, I have heard that MG’s don’t get good resale prices, GWM probably not such a given as only on the market here for less than a year.

Just browse the second hand car websites to get an idea. Compare across brands that cost similar when new. Longterm reliability and resale of Chinese cars is an unknown at this time. 

[In the jungle]

I saw a Good Cat on the road today.

 

A kind of meh, got nothing blob of a car.

 

No idea who makes it but with a name like that it must be Chinese.

[vinny41]

22 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Resale value is a big problem with Chinese cars.

Not only Chinese cars, there was a major US brand that decided to exited their Thailand production and to get rid of stock reduce the price of their vehicles by 50%

imagine how the owners that purchased vehicles before the 50% reduction felt.

There are other brands that offer substantial discounts to vehicles that they no longer want to include in their vehicle portfolio end of life or bring out a brand new major updated model all these factors have an impact on resale values

[Liverpool Lou]

On 10/19/2022 at 3:19 PM, Lacessit said:

On ignore now, so neither of us waste our time.

The last resort of so many posters, the "Ignore" list has the savagery of a toothless sheep and has no effect, whatsoever, on anyone except the ignorer!

[Liverpool Lou]

On 10/21/2022 at 10:13 PM, DavisH said:

Longterm reliability and resale of Chinese cars is an unknown at this time. 

Nonsense, Chinese cars have been on the market for decades, worldwide, so their reliability can be judged very easily as can their resale values in the markets that they have been available in.

[Andrew Dwyer]

On 10/18/2022 at 9:44 PM, digbeth said:

Jolion has a well known mileage issue that they can't fix yet

various thai groups in facebook 

 

Reliability wise the H6 hasn't shown any serious defect 

Seems to be spot on there @digbeth, I spent a few days going through the various Jolion Hybrid Thai groups on FB and the main chatter is about poor mileage figures. Some are claiming better figures, > 20km/l after a supposed update but a lot talking about 13km/l or less !

GWM claim 23.8km/l (or 4.2l/100km)

Of course without the full details of type of fuel used, length of driving and speed plus whether city or highway driving it doesn’t give the full picture but there’s a lot of talk on this subject and even suggestions of changing driving modes ( Eco, Sport, Normal etc )whilst driving to improve mileage depending on conditions ( city, highway, mountain etc ) all seems a little desperate.

Whether an update exists regarding this issue seems a little in doubt imho and was hoping to get some info from someone on here who owns one or has knowledge of someone who does.

A little disappointed in these findings as my current non hybrid car gives me 14.5/15km/l with my driving style and i would hope to improve on that with a Jolion Hybrid without having to alter my driving style and car mode frequently during trips .

 

The H6 does seem to be exempt from this issue.

[eezergood]

On 10/21/2022 at 5:02 PM, DaRoadrunner said:

Resale value is a big problem with Chinese cars.

so dont sell.........

[VocalNeal]

On 10/21/2022 at 10:19 PM, In the jungle said:

I saw a Good Cat on the road today.

 

A kind of meh, got nothing blob of a car.

 

No idea who makes it but with a name like that it must be Chinese.

There are at least two in town where I live. One owned by a German guy. He said he is very happy. 

[In the jungle]

21 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

There are at least two in town where I live. One owned by a German guy. He said he is very happy. 

I would struggle with the question "what car do you drive?"

 

"Erm, a Good Cat."

[VocalNeal]

1 hour ago, In the jungle said:

I would struggle with the question "what car do you drive?"

 

"Erm, a Good Cat."

ORA will suffice????

[KhunLA]

On 10/21/2022 at 5:02 PM, DaRoadrunner said:

Resale value is a big problem with Chinese cars.

How many have you had a problem reselling ?

[Andrew Dwyer]

So, what have i learnt from this thread over the last week, well not so much from owners on here but have surfed the , many, Jolion Hybrid FB groups and learned a fair bit.

 

My attraction is for the Jolion Hybrid, I mentioned H6 in the OP hoping to attract more interest in the 2 hybrids available.

 

According to the Thai owners on FB there are many happy owners, the complaints i have read so far have been:

Lack of reach adjustment on steering.

No short cut switches for air con and drivers modes.

Short drivers seat with no lumbar adjustment.

Adaptive cruise control taking corrective action ( reducing speed ) at bends in the road.

Difficult navigation on infocentre screen.

Lane changing and collision awareness alarms difficult to live with as too frequent bell sounds.

 

In short not too many complaints but by far the biggest issue is mileage, updates have been issued but to achieve achieve any reasonable mileage, expected from a hybrid, conservative driving methods have to be adopted. ( one recent poster proudly posted his 23.1km/L  mileage admitted that he achieved this by driving less than 85km/hr ! ).

So, while the Jolion Ultra Hybrid , in white, imho, is a stunner and very good value for money i am disappointed with the mileage issue.

Of course it remains to be seen whether driving at 100/105 km/hr gives a satisfactory mileage return and i will continue to search for more info.

 The resale value is not clear at this point but it’s not of great importance to me.

Also, the Chinese factor is also irrelevant to me, I have driven a Chinese SUV for the last two years and have no qualms about buying another.

 

Early next year is probably when I will change cars so have time to continue my search, others I am considering are the Honda HR-V, Toyota Corolla Cross and the new , and yet unknown, MG VS hybrid.

 

[DavisH]

On 10/23/2022 at 10:58 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

Nonsense, Chinese cars have been on the market for decades, worldwide, so their reliability can be judged very easily as can their resale values in the markets that they have been available in.

Not in Thailand they haven't. Wanna compare resale with that in other countries? What use would that be? Most Japanese cars will destroy Chinese cars for resale hereover the next 10 years. No question about that. Buying a Chinese vacuum and throwing it out when its broken in 2 years is one thing...but a car? No thanks....

[DavisH]

On 10/24/2022 at 1:16 PM, KhunLA said:

How many have you had a problem reselling ?

Still blowing that trumpet eh? lol

As long as you think you are saving the planet, that all that matters right? 

[Gweiloman]

21 hours ago, DavisH said:

Not in Thailand they haven't. Wanna compare resale with that in other countries? What use would that be? Most Japanese cars will destroy Chinese cars for resale hereover the next 10 years. No question about that. Buying a Chinese vacuum and throwing it out when its broken in 2 years is one thing...but a car? No thanks....

Here is an independent review about a Chinese made car from a high mileage user. Not a view about resale, just about reliability. I think you will be unpleasantly surprised about his verdict.

 

P/s: the video title is  slightly incorrect as it’s not really about the battery.