Passport about to expire

[sanook 1]

would they issue a new visa (non o) at savanakhet or vientaine to be valid until the expire date of the passport? Pp expire august next year. 

[Lacessit]

AFAIK most countries demand 6 months validity on the current passport.

[Doctor Tom]

Re New it now then transfer your visa / extension to the new pp.  Don't wait. 

[hotandsticky]

They should issue the visa for 12 months. 

 

The visa validity is unrelated to the expiry date of your passport. You cannot transfer the visa to the new passport, you will need to carry old and new passports when traveling/doing a border run.

[Dante99]

get a new passport now

[4MyEgo]

37 minutes ago, sanook 1 said:

would they issue a new visa (non o) at savanakhet or vientaine to be valid until the expire date of the passport? Pp expire august next year. 

As you have a valid current passport, I see no problem with a (non o) being issued, you will have to transfer it to the new passport at immigration though, for I believe it's 500 baht when you receive your renew passport.

 

Joe should be along soon to confirm this.

[hotandsticky]

7 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

As you have a valid current passport, I see no problem with a (non o) being issued, you will have to transfer it to the new passport at immigration though, for I believe it's 500 baht when you receive your renew passport.

 

Joe should be along soon to confirm this.

Joe is awol.

 

You don't transfer "visas", they remain in the old passport.

[brianthainess]

Just now, hotandsticky said:

Joe is awol.

 

You don't transfer "visas", they remain in the old passport.

You are awful, and wrong, if you go to immigration with your new PP they DO transfer it, but not necessary until you apply for your next Visa/extension. In my personal experience. 

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

You are awful, and wrong, if you go to immigration with your new PP they DO transfer it, but not necessary until you apply for your next Visa/extension. In my personal experience. 

Tell me how you transfer a visa sticker.

 

Only exit/entry stamps are transferred to a new passport when someone holds a "visa:".

Edited December 17, 2022 by hotandsticky

[lopburi3]

2 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

You are awful, and wrong, if you go to immigration with your new PP they DO transfer it, but not necessary until you apply for your next Visa/extension. In my personal experience. 

They make a notation of original visa and put new permitted to stay in new passport (same time as in old passport).  If you have a multi entry visa you will need to show old passport as well as new to use it.  Visas are never transferred - only permitted to stay stamps and information from visa (which can not be used for a new entry without original visa/passport).

[brianthainess]

3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

Tell me how you transfer a visa sticker.

New sticker maybe ? Surely renewing a Non O is an extension stamp not a sticker I'm sure I will be corrected though.

[hotandsticky]

Just now, brianthainess said:

New sticker maybe ? Surely renewing a Non O is an extension stamp not a sticker I'm sure I will be corrected though.

You are wrong.

 

We are talking about VISAS.....see Lopburis full response.

 

VISAS cannot be transferred; you are getting confused with extensions where they (and the related stamps) are transferred to the new passport.

 

This thread is about VISAS, not extensions.

[4MyEgo]

23 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

Joe is awol.

 

You don't transfer "visas", they remain in the old passport.

Perhaps I should have been clearer in my previous post below copied and pasted:

 

"As you have a valid current passport, I see no problem with a (non o) being issued, you will have to transfer it to the new passport at immigration though, for I believe it's 500 baht when you receive your renew passport".

 

You will have to have immigration apply stamps to your new passport regarding your (non-o) visa and pay the 500 baht fee.

 

You are correct, they do not transfer the fixed sticker to the new passport.

[Old Croc]

The passport expires in August!  Therefore, it still has about 9 months before it's invalid. 

What's the problem? 

[hotandsticky]

13 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

The passport expires in August!  Therefore, it still has about 9 months before it's invalid. 

What's the problem? 

 

 

The only issue is his 90 day border runs. He will need to retain his passport (if he uses an agent) after submitting the renewal.

[Old Croc]

3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

The only issue is his 90 day border runs. He will need to retain his passport (if he uses an agent) after submitting the renewal.

Those days may be numbered if reports about Immigration crackdowns on agents are correct.

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, Old Croc said:

Those days may be numbered if reports about Immigration crackdowns on agents are correct.

 

 

There has never been any attempt to prevent Savannaket (for example) issuing 'soft' Non-Imm 'O') Marriage visas.

 

As for a crackdown on agents - I have heard that for 17 years. Too many Immigration snouts in that particular trough.

[Old Croc]

12 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

As for a crackdown on agents - I have heard that for 17 years. Too many Immigration snouts in that particular trough.

The subject came up yesterday in this YouTube video:

Watch from 2.00 minutes.

 

[zzzzz]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

As you have a valid current passport, I see no problem with a (non o) being issued, you will have to transfer it to the new passport at immigration though, for I believe it's 500 baht when you receive your renew passport.

 

Joe should be along soon to confirm this.

ITS free with the note ur embassy gives ya>
OR you can carry both passports around with you till the visa/extension expires, at which time your initial stamp INTO thailand in the old passport will be transferred to new passport
also for free

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

ITS free .....be transferred to new passport
also for free

Not necessarily, depending on what Imm office you use.  They changed that from free, to each Imm office's discretion quite some time ago.

 

Hua Hin for instance does charge 500 baht.

 

Udon Thani, quite some time ago, was free, if you refused to pay, as at that time IT WAS  free, official policy via BKK. 

 

IO did ask for 1000 baht, which I refused to pay, then 500, then 100, then I told her to keep it, and I'll pick it up when the boss is in.  Which time the boss tried to get the wife to explain to me the "Thai" way, which she explained to him, "when you steal money from him, you steal money from me" 

 

Got to love her ... ????

 

If they charge, you should get an official receipt for that charge.

[Dan O]

3 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

They should issue the visa for 12 months. 

 

The visa validity is unrelated to the expiry date of your passport. You cannot transfer the visa to the new passport, you will need to carry old and new passports when traveling/doing a border run.

I believe they will issue it to match the expiration of his passport if he doesn't get a new pp before and not the full 12 months. I may be incorrect but that's my understanding

[hotandsticky]

21 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I believe they will issue it to match the expiration of his passport if he doesn't get a new pp before and not the full 12 months. I may be incorrect but that's my understanding

 

That is certainly true of an extension, but I think it is not correct for a visa. That is why you have to carry the old passport (with the visa sticker) and the new passport - into which any immigration stamps are transferred.

[Liverpool Lou]

Passport about to expire.

 

You omitted the "not" from the title!

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

You cannot transfer the visa to the new passport, you will need to carry old and new passports when traveling/doing a border run.

That's odd, when my UK passport was renewed the Thai visa information was transferred into the new one so that I did not have to carry both.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

You don't transfer "visas", they remain in the old passport.

Old visa information is entered in new UK passports, I know this because my current passport has the first page-and-a-bit filled with the old visa details, courtesy of Immigration.

[lopburi3]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's odd, when my UK passport was renewed the Thai visa information was transferred into the new one so that I did not have to carry both.

Could you show that perhaps?  Suspect appears that way but what was entered was a notation that you had such and such a visa and you, entered and are permitted to stay until date.  Takes up almost 2 pages but does not transfer a visa and unless you were using multi entry visa it is all you need so old passport done.  If you have multi entry visa however, you would still require showing both passports to get stamped in on the new one each time.

[4MyEgo]

37 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

ITS free with the note ur embassy gives ya>
OR you can carry both passports around with you till the visa/extension expires, at which time your initial stamp INTO thailand in the old passport will be transferred to new passport
also for free

I will be renewing my 2013-2023 passport for the first time since living here on my Non O for 7 years.

 

My marriage extension is due for renewal end January 2023 and my passport expires in November 2023 a couple of months before my next marriage extension is due, so the question I have for you is, what note should I ask my embassy when renewing my passport, that might save me 500 baht as I have heard that the transfer of stamps to the new passport is 500 baht, or is that just another immigration scam, or must one have that note to save the 500 baht ?

 

Thanks in advance as I learn as I go.

 

[CharlieH]

As usual there is often a clash in terminology use of visa and extension.

I can however confirm having just been through this myself.

1. An extension is only issued for the validity of the current passport.

2.On obtaining a NEW passport supported with embassy letter, they transfer previous extension information into it.

 

 

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

Re New it now then transfer your visa / extension to the new pp.  Don't wait. 

As mentioned here many many times, transfer of visas etc., old to new passport is very easy, quick, and not expensive. 

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

I will be renewing my 2013-2023 passport for the first time since living here on my Non O for 7 years.

 

My marriage extension is due for renewal end January 2023 and my passport expires in November 2023 a couple of months before my next marriage extension is due, so the question I have for you is, what note should I ask my embassy when renewing my passport, that might save me 500 baht as I have heard that the transfer of stamps to the new passport is 500 baht, or is that just another immigration scam, or must one have that note to save the 500 baht ?

 

Thanks in advance as I learn as I go.

 

How long will it take to get your new passport?