webfact Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Picture: Thai Rath A British pensioner was shot multiple times in the back by an unknown assailant as he was returning home on a motorcycle in the Pattaya area. Neil Lewis Roger, 71, had told his close friend that he was off to have a drink with a friend in town. After buying some groceries he headed home to Huay Yai but was shot on the way at least 3 times. He died in a pool of blood 2 KM from his home. His friend called him a popular man who had no known enemies. First reports of the shooting in Soi Khao Makork 1 came in to Pol Maj Prakasit Paladech of the Huay Yai police who went to the scene with rescue services expecting to find an injured man. It was 9.45pm last night. It's a quiet soi and at the scene a red Scoopy Honda bike was found on its side. The victim had no pulse and was lying face down in a pool of blood. Medics tried to stem the flow of blood and perform CPR but it proved futile and the victim was pronounced dead at the scene. He had been shot twice in the back and once under the waist with parts of the projectiles exiting shoulder and armpit. Evidence of shots from a 9 mm weapon were found 50 meters away. "Pop", 29, at the scene told Thai Rath that he had found the foreigner who was wearing a full face helmet. He thought he had merely fallen off his bike and it was only when rescue services arrived that they all realised he had been shot. "Em", 23, a hotel security man, said that he had been sleeping 300 meters away. He said he heard 3 shots within a ten second timeframe. Police managed to contact a close friend and carer of the deceased, 38 year old Thitiphan Kamlat from Mukdahan. She arrived at the scene and was distraught. Fighting back tears she said that the decesed was a retired engineer from the UK. They had been together for four years. On Christmas Eve he had flown back to the UK to be with his family and got back to Pattaya on Wednesday. At 4pm he said he was going for a drink with "Peter" in Soi Bua Khao in central Pattaya. She was invited but decided not to go. She said that the deceased had no issues with anyone and had lots of friends being a popular guy. Chonburi provincial police have determined that at 9.18 pm the victim was at a mini mart on Phra Tamnak hill. There he bought two tins of baked beans, a loaf of bread and half a roast chicken. He then went via Sukhumvit Road and Soi Chaiyapreuk towards his home in Huay Yai. Police have suggested no motive at present. They are studying CCTV to get a full picture of both the victim's movements and that of the assailant who shot him. More on this case as we hear of it at ASEAN NOW. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2023-01-06 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 So sad when it happens to a good guy like this man seemed to be. It sounds like a very personal attack. It said he had no enemies, yet he apparently wasn't robbed so the shooter was very deliberate in this shooting and wanted the man dead. I hope they find the attacker and give him what he deserves. RIP. 17 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) "Peter's" friend followed him or mistaken identity. Phra Tamnak looks like not the shortest way home, he likely meet somebody there/gave lift to Peter's home or somebody else he had met in the pub Edited January 6, 2023 by internationalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pedrogaz Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Sad.....RIP Neil. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Mistaken identity perhaps? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 What location was he shot? Still in the Pratumnak area? I don't recognise the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KannikaP Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, smedly said: either an identity error (which I doubt) or someone had something to gain likely financial, I know were I'd be looking, just back from home in the UK I know some people will bring cash with them, there may have been as much as 20,000 quid or more at his residence, that is motive to me...........financial What a load of rubbish. Kill a man 2km from his home to get his money at home. And from where do you get the £20k from. 14 11 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, KannikaP said: What a load of rubbish. Kill a man 2km from his home to get his money at home. And from where do you get the £20k from. it is all just a round about way of saying his woman did it. As for the 20k, im pretty sure we all know where he pulled that from. Edited January 6, 2023 by n00dle 6 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said: Mistaken identity perhaps? Yes, based on what can be gleaned from the details, maybe. Plenty of other possibilities based on possible details we have not been told too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Seppius said: What location was he shot? Still in the Pratumnak area? I don't recognise the road 4th paragraph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theoldgit Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Troll post, and responses, removed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, KannikaP said: What a load of rubbish. Kill a man 2km from his home to get his money at home. And from where do you get the £20k from. can you not read, you obviously have no clue - like I said in my post - who benefits financially from his death - it's called motive and in Thailand when farangs are murdered it is almost always a financial motive - someone gains alot of money and thinks they will get away with it - cash that nobody knows about (not banked) 8 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KannikaP Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, smedly said: can you not read, you obviously have no clue - like I said in my post - who benefits financially from his death - it's called motive and in Thailand when farangs are murdered it is almost always a financial motive - someone gains alot of money and thinks they will get away with it - cash that nobody knows about (not banked) Yes I can read very well thank you. Your post is mere speculation and guessing. 7 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, n00dle said: it is all just a round about way of saying his woman did it. As for the 20k, im pretty sure we all know where he pulled that from. his home in the UK, I know lots of people bring cash with them when returning here from a home visit 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, KannikaP said: Yes I can read very well thank you. Your post is mere speculation and guessing. if you don't agree with what I said then fine I have no issue with that - it's called a discussion 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, smedly said: his home in the UK, I know lots of people bring cash with them when returning here from a home visit oh, that solves it. alright then. 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, webfact said: "Em", 23, a hotel security man, said that he had been sleeping 300 meters away. If he's on the job, then I think he just lost his job 4 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said: So sad when it happens to a good guy like this man seemed to be. Someone didn't think so ... ... or worse, just a random shooting/mugging attempt. That's a bit scary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orchis Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, smedly said: either an identity error (which I doubt) or someone had something to gain likely financial, I know were I'd be looking, just back from home in the UK I know some people will bring cash with them, there may have been as much as 20,000 quid or more at his residence, that is motive to me...........financial RIP thank you for solving this, pls inform the authorities 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dddave Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Such pointless and cruel speculation. This being Thailand it could just as easily been somebody angry because he looked at him the wrong way or some incident on the roadway. A guy once chased me down and threatened me with a knife because I got in his way somehow. 14 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 Wow that's terrible. Hope they catch the shooter. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) The first suspect to rule out is the girlfriend and secret thai boyfriend\husband. If popular, his friends will have a good idea Edited January 6, 2023 by scubascuba3 10 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4dang Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 in my neck of the woods three shots are the message...in the torso if you are respected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cricky Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: security man, said that he had been sleeping Doesn't surprise me 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, smedly said: if you don't agree with what I said then fine I have no issue with that - it's called a discussion OK, let's discuss it. You posted ' there may have been as much as 20,000 quid or more at his residence, that is motive to me...........financial' You are correct there, but maybe there wasn't that much, if any. Discuss this please. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said: So sad when it happens to a good guy like this man seemed to be. It sounds like a very personal attack. It said he had no enemies, yet he apparently wasn't robbed so the shooter was very deliberate in this shooting and wanted the man dead. I hope they find the attacker and give him what he deserves. RIP. Back in the UK, the police would already be questioning his 39 year old 'carer'. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancub Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Back in the UK, the police would already be questioning his 39 year old 'carer'. Strange things can happen when the husband/sponsor is away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: She said that the deceased had no issues with anyone and had lots of friends being a popular guy. Looks like someone was having an issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, KannikaP said: OK, let's discuss it. You posted ' there may have been as much as 20,000 quid or more at his residence, that is motive to me...........financial' You are correct there, but maybe there wasn't that much, if any. Discuss this please. you understand that in solving murder a motive is usually established first, in Thailand especially involving farangs that is usually were someone has something to gain and is almost always financial - I connected a very recent trip home to the possibility that he brought cash back with him which could very well be at his home and is also untraceable since it is not in a bank account, I know people that do this when visiting their home, the only person that knows about this cash is the deceased and very likely his live in Thai partner. financial gain is a good place to start when looking for motive but very difficult to uncover were a wad of cash is concerned, his home bank might show a large withdrawal before returning to Thailand, this would indicate he had cash at his home, would Thai cops look at this - I'm not sure. alternative to this would be a business disput (again financial) or mistaken identity, there's not much else that fits 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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