Holiday Gone Wrong: British man claims he was tortured in Thailand Jail

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

His story doesn't make sense at all.

A very strange story indeed.

[twizzian]

The ‘Sun newspaper’ Says it all really, utter trash

[FritsSikkink]

Lets try to get the story line together:

"he was targeted by a local gang who spiked his drink."

"Carl said he had just secured accommodation in Pa Tong"

"Carl found himself in a two-day frenzied delirium after allegedly having his drink spiked."

"More than 48 hours later, Carl returned to a normal state ... He used the shop names to retrace his steps to his original accommodation."

"when he tried to confront the muggers -....."

"When he arrived he ended up being met by cops, who threw him into a police van "

"During the drive, Carl said four police with metal poles beat him, ...He said: "I thought I could take it, ..... At that point, I stopped resisting"

""I found a lighter, which I used to light some rubbish on fire"

 

Guy goes for a drink, says he got drugged. After 48 hours feeling better, goes to his original accommodation (where was he during the 48 hours?) sees he got robbed.

Goes to confront the muggers, meets police with metal poles (they use them to control people who are not acting normal), resists arrest (arrest what for?). Gets into a jail cell and sets it on fire. Gets beaten up again.

Edited January 9, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[Orinoco]

5 minutes ago, twizzian said:

The ‘Sun newspaper’ Says it all really, utter trash

Well for the news paper ( the sun ), sure 100%

But for the story, maybe a nasty thing has gone down, in the land of frowns.

 

 

 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Orinoco

[Shop mak]

57 minutes ago, Elkski said:

It is a basic human right for a person to not to speak to police or answer questions until he has representative present. 

Thailands expats are all rolling on the floor now and can't stop laugh.

#HumanRights????????????

[BritScot]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

Britain's economy has been sinking since the 1970's.

Really! Well I for one am far better off in 2023 than I was in 1970 lol I just realised I was at school then... so I'll say 1980 or even 2000 when I was in a very good "IT" job in London I'm better off now. 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

What is normal? The part he was drugged, the part he set fire to his cell, the part he confronted the mugger while drugged, the part the muggers had his pin code? 

Exactly.  

[Liverpool Lou]

Fanciful garbage, in the extreme, designed to get paid by The Sun for another over-dramatic, embellished, left-out-a-lot story.  Just my opinion but I'd put money on it.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

It is a basic human right for a person to not to speak to police or answer questions until he has representative present. 

Did anyone say that it wasn't?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

This guy may have been causing harm to that turf, and the order to stop it was given. 

Huh?

[pedro01]

I was with him up till "set a fire in my cell", which has to account for at least 1 beating.

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why all that money for a night out drinking? 

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/holiday-gone-wrong-british-man-claims-he-was-tortured-in-thailand-jail-11950652.html

Tortured for what his ATM cards PIN....lol.  2 days after being drugged he was still in a stupor, think not...maybe was using drugs with some ladies of the night and found himself unable to pay the bill and the drug dealer/pimp tuned him up.....waiting to hear the real story.

[CH1961]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

British authorities are now investigating the allegations he was brutally mistreated by Thai police.

So there is hope that all these British beer/quality tourists stay at home ????

[RichardColeman]

Sorry, but looking at the guy I can believe the police on this one

 

When Carl got to Pa Tong Police station he was locked up on bogus cocaine charges.

[jacko45k]

Just now, CH1961 said:

So there is hope that all these British beer/quality tourists stay at home ????

Not a chance.

[IamNoone88]

Complete nonsense.

[generealty]

Sounds like Victim Blaming again !

[HaoleBoy]

7 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Why are we not surprised by that and why do we not expect anything from the "investigations by British authorities"?

 

We saw what British authorities are capable in their desperation to get trade benefits for their sinking economy when the British foreign office and police jointed hands with corrupt Thai police and Southern mafia to frame two Burmese for the brutal murders of two British kids in order to let the son of a local mafioso on Murder Island off the hook. The British coroner even mumbled some nonsense about being careful not to jeopardise relations with Thailand.

 

Befuddles me why so many Brits still go to Koh Tao after the incident above.  I've boycotted the place since I don't feel like giving this island any money after these shenanigans.  

Boycott the place and let their economy go to hell.  Let others know too.

[Aussieroaming]

If he was drunk and drugged up they might have just put him in a cell until he was coherent. Anyway glad that he is out and can mend over time.

 

 

 

 

 

[Deerculler]

Have any of you got any proof?

[Blumpie]

8 hours ago, PeachCH said:

Don't believe a word! 

Yep.

Im a person who understands Thailand fairly well - relatively speaking - but this all sounds silly.  

People who have all these stories have them all their lives - generally speaking.  

So there's one side of the story.  I bet the other side of the story is interesting too.

 

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, generealty said:

Sounds like Victim Blaming again !

The victim who set fire to a police cell, sure

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, Aussieroaming said:

If he was drunk and drugged up they might have just put him in a cell until he was coherent. Anyway glad that he is out and can mend over time.

 

 

 

 

 

They did but he was fighting the police and set fire to his cell, any more good ideas? 

[jo1993]

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What is normal? The part he was drugged, the part he set fire to his cell, the part he confronted the mugger while drugged, the part the muggers had his pin code? 

 

I have been pretty drunk sometimes over the years, met many policemen and never had a problem in 40 years.

I've crossed the road many times drunk. Never been ran over. Does that mean nobody else can be ran over drunk too?

[FritsSikkink]

5 minutes ago, jo1993 said:

I've crossed the road many times drunk. Never been ran over. Does that mean nobody else can be ran over drunk too?

Did you fight with the police and set a cell on fire? Stay on topic please.

Edited January 9, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[spidermike007]

If this story is true, the only way to get any sort of resolution, would be to personally go after the rotten cops. The legal system here is rotten to the core, the government protects these goons at all levels, and they think they are untouchable. Ha! 

[geisha]

So all was fine, he booked a room/ condo , then what happened ? 

[aussienam]

If true, this is a horror story of extreme Thai police corruption and akin to the Joe Ferrari style brutality.

 

A proper investigation of course would be able to gather evidence to indicate whether or not this man's account of events is indeed true, partially true or untrue.

 

If it was indeed true however, a proper investigation would not likely occur.  A Catch 22 of sorts to make this man's report open to continual speculation. 

[thaibeachlovers]

I don't know what to believe, but I don't believe that Thai cops go around beating farangs up without a reason.

There has to be more to this than published.

 

BTW, I've been aware of the spiked drinks thing for over 30 years. Do people really go traveling without any sense of caution these days?

[Seeall]

18 hours ago, Elkski said:

This guy may have been causing harm to that turf, and the order to stop it was given.  I never took fancy vacations when I had less than 12 months wages in the bank checking acct at that time. 

12 months wages to suck out of your account once you hand over your pin..............