Rule on running engine while refueling

[itsari]

I was refueling my motorcycle the other day and i noticed that the car a few meters away had the engine running . I mentioned that to the person working the pumps and the only reaction was a shrug of the shoulders and laughter at the same time .

Anyone know the rules here in Thailand ?

[Negita43]

Yes and you see many on their mobile phones too.

[petermik]

There are rules covering virtually every possibility here in LOS....being adhered to is another matter....

[Captain Monday]

Wonder how dangerous it really is? The planes you board are being fueled all the time simultaneously with the APU running. Of course the aircraft is grounded to earth with a metal cable before the fueling begins.

[Negita43]

3 minutes ago, petermik said:

There are rules covering virtually every possibility here in LOS....being adhered to is another matter....

Well known Thai proverb - Rules are meant for breaking.

Come to think of it - well known universal proverb - Rules are meant for ignoring!!

[itsari]

2 minutes ago, petermik said:

There are rules covering virtually every possibility here in LOS....being adhered to is another matter....

The car I saw with the engine running was a brand new Fortuna with the heavy tinted windows and can only assume they want to have the air conditioning running . I know it is a small risk that a explosion could happen , but a small risk it is and it would not be just the occupants of the car that would suffer . Totally selfish in my opinion

[The Fugitive]

My Mrs point blank refuses to switch off the engine when the petrol pump attendant is pumping. Fortunately, she doesn't smoke! Must admit I was surprised when a taxi driver told me to exit his vehicle whilst it was being refulled.

Edited March 12, 2023 by The Fugitive

[itsari]

6 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

My Mrs point blank refuses to switch off the engine when the petrol pump attendant is pumping. Fortunately, she doesn't smoke! Must admit I was surprised when a taxi driver told me to exit his vehicle whilst it was being refulled (LPG). 

I would be  telling  your wife to come and pick me up down the street after your finished refueling .

Edited March 12, 2023 by itsari

[PJ71]

4 minutes ago, itsari said:

I would be  telling  your wife to come and pick me up down the street after your finished refueling .

why would his wife come to pick you up?

[itsari]

1 minute ago, PJ71 said:

why would his wife come to pick you up?

read it again , it was meant to mean that the man should refuse to stay in the car while refueling with the engine running 

[PJ71]

1 minute ago, itsari said:

read it again , it was meant to mean that the man should refuse to stay in the car while refueling with the engine running 

So the man comes and waits with you down the street?

[itsari]

3 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

So the man comes and waits with you down the street?

OK master of English grammar i will wait with him down the street if it helps  to convince his dear wife that it is a risk to refuel your car with the engine running .

[LennyW]

Why you need a rule when common sense should prevail.......oh wait.....

[PPGuy]

8 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

So the man comes and waits with you down the street?

-Well done. Sunday comments are the best......

[itsari]

1 minute ago, PJ71 said:

So the man comes and waits with you down the street?

OK PJ , 

 

Just now, LennyW said:

Why you need a rule when common sense should prevail.......oh wait.....

Some people need to be directed , but sure I agree , common sense should prevail

[Yellowtail]

24 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

My Mrs point blank refuses to switch off the engine when the petrol pump attendant is pumping. Fortunately, she doesn't smoke! Must admit I was surprised when a taxi driver told me to exit his vehicle whilst it was being refulled.

He probably wanted to have a smoke. 

[KhunLA]

I always turned the car off, as a courtesy to the workers, as if they don't have enough fumes to suck in all day, they didn't need me adding to it.

 

Actually fire/explosion danger is fairly non existent.  For car anyway.

Edited March 12, 2023 by KhunLA

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, itsari said:

Anyone know the rules here in Thailand ?

It depends if it is a luxury car and/or an important person and/or the tip is high enough.

 

[itsari]

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I always turned the car off, as a courtesy to the workers, as if they don't have enough fumes to suck in all day, they didn't need me adding to it.

 

Actually fire/explosion danger is fairly non existent.  For car anyway.

I agree with your comment on courtesy to the pump attendants.

Refueling while the engine is running is a risk not worth taking.

[ezzra]

Frankly, i doubt very much if any of the Thai people knows that it's advisable to turn off engines and not to be on the phone while refueling, but in Thailand, like in Thailand, when a disaster will happen, and it will one day, they will come out to remind everyone what is a commonsense everywhere else.

[itsari]

10 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Frankly, i doubt very much if any of the Thai people knows that it's advisable to turn off engines and not to be on the phone while refueling, but in Thailand, like in Thailand, when a disaster will happen, and it will one day, they will come out to remind everyone what is a commonsense everywhere else.

I think you are correct in that assumption 

[richard_smith237]

13 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Frankly, i doubt very much if any of the Thai people knows that it's advisable to turn off engines and not to be on the phone while refueling, but in Thailand, like in Thailand, when a disaster will happen, and it will one day, they will come out to remind everyone what is a commonsense everywhere else.

IMO... just like many (most) other rules... they know exactly, they just don’t care because no-one else does.

Thailand is very ‘conformist’ in that everyone only follows the rules everyone else follows, they also only break the rules everyone else breaks !!!...   

 

 

There are signs all over every Petrol / Gas station.... they also put a small sign on the bonnet / hood of your car which tells you to...  turn off your car, no smoking, no phone use.... So, I’m not so sure many here in Thailand ‘don’t know the rule’... I suspect that its more common that they just don’t care. 

 

 

But.. as you pointed out... one day a disaster will happen, there will be media outrage and everyone will blame everyone else for not turning off their car.

 

Just as everyone was outspoken, there was media outrage about people not stopping at pedestrian crossings (Dr killed), but everyone is blaming everyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by richard_smith237

[jwest10]

1 hour ago, Negita43 said:

Well known Thai proverb - Rules are meant for breaking.

Come to think of it - well known universal proverb - Rules are meant for ignoring!!

Common sense everywhere is non existent  and only takes one spark and let's not forget many people pay for their fuel by mobiles. 
Oh well!!

[Yellowtail]

Well it does seem to take quite a long time to fill and it's hot. If you roll the windows down, it smells like fuel. 

 

If the staff asks me to turn it off, I turn it off. I think the fumes from the fuel is more hazardous than the exhaust.  

 

 

[josephbloggs]

18 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Frankly, i doubt very much if any of the Thai people knows that it's advisable to turn off engines and not to be on the phone while refueling, but in Thailand, like in Thailand, when a disaster will happen, and it will one day, they will come out to remind everyone what is a commonsense everywhere else.

Actually very common to leave your engine running in Dubai, Saudi, and elsewhere in the middle east. Never heard of an explosion.

Personally I always turn off for the reasons others have posted but to suggest it is not common anywhere else or it is only because Thais are stupid is not so.

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/myth-busting-dangerous-refuel-car-engine-running/

[asf6]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

There are signs all over every Petrol / Gas station.... they also put a small sign on the bonnet / hood of your car which tells you to...  turn off your car, no smoking, no phone use.... So, I’m not so sure many here in Thailand ‘don’t know the rule’... I suspect that its more common that they just don’t care. 

^ Exactly this. 

 

[asf6]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

 Must admit I was surprised when a taxi driver told me to exit his vehicle whilst it was being refulled.

Was it an LPG station? That seems to be the norm when topping up LPG. 

[The Fugitive]

3 minutes ago, asf6 said:

Was it an LPG station? That seems to be the norm when topping up LPG. 

Yes. First time I'd travelled in a LPG powered vehicle (that I know of).

[phetphet]

 

I remember a demonstration at college of how dangerous petrol vapour could be, where they had a long box about 6 feet long x 6 inches high and 6 inches wide.

At one end there was a small candle burning. The instructor put a teaspoonful of petrol in the opposite end and told us to wait a little while.

All of a sudden there was a whoosh and the flame shot along  and up out of the box.

 

The vapour is virtually invisible and creeps along the floor.

[Liverpool Lou]

37 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Frankly, i doubt very much if any of the Thai people knows that it's advisable to turn off engines and not to be on the phone while refueling

Why is that the case?