Just now, 2009 said:

Honestly, the people in charge now do seem to hate their own country and seem to be revelling in degeneracy.

Kevin McCarthy?

11 minutes ago, 2009 said:

That's what they showed us for ages.

 

They kept the CCTV footage hidden.....which came out recently showing the police opening locked doors to give them access to various rooms -- basically giving them a guided tour around the inside, including the main chamber.

 

 

Explanations in the right-wing NYPost. Actually, it had already been discussed in a 2021 HOB documentary.

 

Capitol cops say they couldn’t get physical with rioters as new ‘QAnon Shaman’ video reveals hands-off approach

"In a statement Monday, the Capitol Police pointed The Post to comments by Robishaw in the 2021 HBO documentary “Four Hours at the Capitol.”

“The sheer number of them compared to us, I knew ahead there was no way we could all get physical with them,” Robishaw said, “so I took it upon myself to try to talk to them."The officer is then seen on video walking behind Chansley as Chansley walks into the Senate Chamber,” Capitol Police said. “Moments earlier our officers and agents had to evacuate the Senate Chamber, which was closed to the public, to rush elected officials and staffers to safety. After that, multiple people snuck into the Chamber. At any given time, the officer is outnumbered by more than 20 or more people. At this point, it is clear the officer is trying to get everyone out of the Chamber.” In the documentary, Robishaw recalled: “I walked in behind [Chansley] and that is when I realized I am alone now. I was by myself."

https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/capitol-cops-say-they-couldnt-get-physical-with-rioters-as-new-qanon-shaman-video-reveals-hands-off-approach/

 

21 minutes ago, 2009 said:

That's what they showed us for ages.

So it wasn't true?

From Jingthing's post in the other thread

Ahem! Who talked about damaging institutions?

 

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-trump-posts-picture-himself-012321053.html

 

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Kevin McCarthy?

Jim Jordan.

18 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

So it wasn't true?

The recent CCTV shows it in a new light. 

 

I thought I explained that. What parts are you struggling with?

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Honestly, the people in charge now do seem to hate their own country and seem to be revelling in degeneracy.

Like inciting an insurrection isn't hating your country now?

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Not only does this sound ridiculous, I couldn't find the part about Nazi Germany.

 

What did he say?

 

I quoted the headline and the provided a link. Why ask me?

8 hours ago, 2009 said:

Being a bit of a drama queen, to be honest. I don't think there will be a civil war.

 

Armed militia? You mean the people who went to the Capitol and were allowed in by Capitol Police, kinda like a guided tour as the police opened locked chambers for their viewing?

 

Can't believe it took years for the CCTV footage to surface showing what really happened that day inside the building. Well, I can actually.

 

There's people in jail for getting a police escort through the Capitol building ????

 

How do you feel about your government hiding information from the public?

The Faux News team went through 41,000 hours of video and came up with 4 minutes of a rioter not acting crazy, and you take that as proof that no crime was committed.  You are deep down the rabbit hole.

 

8 hours ago, 2009 said:

I saw the CCTV footage with my own eyes. Lol. 

No, you didn't watch 41,000 hours of video footage, you watched carefully edited segments that removed all violent acts by the mob.

 

6 hours ago, 2009 said:

That's what they showed us for ages.

 

They kept the CCTV footage hidden.....which came out recently showing the police opening locked doors to give them access to various rooms -- basically giving them a guided tour around the inside, including the main chamber.

 

 

Does the fact that the actual criminal acts got the most coverage somehow disprove the fact that major crimes were committed?  Can a bank robber caught in the act on film show videos of times the bank was not being robbed and use that as evidence that the bank wasn't robbed?

 

6 hours ago, 2009 said:

Honestly, the people in charge now do seem to hate their own country and seem to be revelling in degeneracy.

People who want to preserve democracy and election results hate the country?  You are truly off the deep end.

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9 hours ago, candide said:

From Jingthing's post in the other thread

Ahem! Who talked about damaging institutions?

 

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-trump-posts-picture-himself-012321053.html

 

I believe that might cross the line for threatening an investigation, obstruction of Justice.

 

 

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

I quoted the headline and the provided a link. Why ask me?

Okay, so why did you post that <deleted>  then?

 

I read the article, did you?

15 hours ago, 2009 said:

I saw the CCTV footage with my own eyes. Lol. 

All of it? That's about 41,000 hours. Have you come back from the future to report to us what you saw?

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

No, you didn't watch 41,000 hours of video footage, you watched carefully edited segments that removed all violent acts by the mob.

It's the other way around.

 

There were very few rioters there that day, but that's all the media showed.

 

They didn't show the majority doing nothing wrong.

 

They didn't show the Capitol Police opening locked doors and giving them a civilized guided tour through the chambers inside (including that guy who got 4 years in jail).

 

How did you feel about your government hiding information from you? How can you say that's right?

 

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

It's the other way around.

 

There were very few rioters there that day, but that's all the media showed.

 

They didn't show the majority doing nothing wrong.

 

They didn't show the Capitol Police opening locked doors and giving them a civilized guided tour through the chambers inside (including that guy who got 4 years in jail).

 

How did you feel about your government hiding information from you? How can you say that's right?

 

The police were greatly outnumbered. Had they tried to make arrests, it's unlikely that would have ended well for them.  We have already seen what violence the rioters were capable of when they stormed the Capitol The police were making the best of a bad situation.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

All of it? That's about 41,000 hours. Have you come back from the future to report to us what you saw?

I saw the guy who got 4 years in prison actually getting a civilized, peaceful, guided tour by Capitol Police throughout the inside of the building, opening locked doors to different rooms for him to view with their keys.

 

I saw him thanking them for their assistance before he left. He did nothing wrong.

 

Why was this footage (evidence) suppressed? Why did he get jail?

 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The police were greatly outnumbered. Had they tried to make arrests, it's unlikely that would have ended well for them.  We have already seen what violence the rioters were capable of when they stormed the Capitol The police were making the best of a bad situation.

They didn't have to unlock doors to provide them access to various chambers inside.

 

You can't use the word "stormed" when you get Capitol police giving you a guided tour, lol

2 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I saw the guy who got 4 years in prison actually getting a civilized, peaceful, guided tour by Capitol Police throughout the inside of the building, opening locked doors to different rooms for him to view with their keys.

 

I saw him thanking them for their assistance before he left. He did nothing wrong.

 

Why was this footage (evidence) suppressed? Why did he get jail?

 

If someone robs a bank and there's a video of him 1 hour later taking a stroll down the street, how is that video evidence that he didn't commit a crime?

The police were being friendly out of self-interest. They were in no position to be hostile.

 

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

They didn't have to unlock doors to provide them access to various chambers inside.

 

You can't use the word "stormed" when you get Capitol police giving you a guided tour, lol

So are you denying that there are videos of the rioters storming the Capitol?  Or are you still trying to claim because some is behaving peacefully at one point in time, that must mean that they were behaving peacefully before, as well?

4 minutes ago, 2009 said:

It's the other way around.

 

There were very few rioters there that day, but that's all the media showed.

 

They didn't show the majority doing nothing wrong.

 

They didn't show the Capitol Police opening locked doors and giving them a civilized guided tour through the chambers inside (including that guy who got 4 years in jail).

 

How did you feel about your government hiding information from you? How can you say that's right?

 

 

Just now, 2009 said:

I saw the guy who got 4 years in prison actually getting a civilized, peaceful, guided tour by Capitol Police throughout the inside of the building, opening locked doors to different rooms for him to view with their keys.

 

Why was this footage (evidence) suppressed? Why did he get jail?

 

Unbelievable!  You think that if a person is not constantly breaking the law that makes him a good guy?  The majority who did nothing wrong have not been arrested.  Some of the hundreds who did break the law are being held to account.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/doj-says-video-of-qanon-shaman-fox-aired-lacks-context/ar-AA18zQbD

 

Going back to my bank robbery analogy, what matters is video of the crime, not videos of routine activities.

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Unbelievable!  You think that if a person is not constantly breaking the law that makes him a good guy?  The majority who did nothing wrong have not been arrested.  Some of the hundreds who did break the law are being held to account.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/doj-says-video-of-qanon-shaman-fox-aired-lacks-context/ar-AA18zQbD

 

Going back to my bank robbery analogy, what matters is video of the crime, not videos of routine activities.

I thought it was my bank robbery analogy? I guess you have the prior claim.

9 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I saw the guy who got 4 years in prison actually getting a civilized, peaceful, guided tour by Capitol Police throughout the inside of the building, opening locked doors to different rooms for him to view with their keys.

 

Why was this footage (evidence) suppressed? Why did he get jail?

 

There are videos of Hitler playing with his dog.  Does that mean he was innocent of all crimes?

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

The Faux News team went through 41,000 hours of video and came up with 4 minutes of a rioter not acting crazy, and you take that as proof that no crime was committed.  You are deep down the rabbit hole.

 

No, you didn't watch 41,000 hours of video footage, you watched carefully edited segments that removed all violent acts by the mob.

 

Does the fact that the actual criminal acts got the most coverage somehow disprove the fact that major crimes were committed?  Can a bank robber caught in the act on film show videos of times the bank was not being robbed and use that as evidence that the bank wasn't robbed?

 

People who want to preserve democracy and election results hate the country?  You are truly off the deep end.

 

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I thought it was my bank robbery analogy? I guess you have the prior claim.

Maybe.  Not important.

Just now, heybruce said:

 

Maybe.  Not really important.

In that case, I'm going to copyright it.

13 hours ago, 2009 said:

The recent CCTV shows it in a new light. 

 

I thought I explained that. What parts are you struggling with?

I'm struggling to contain my laughter at your whitewashing.

34 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Unbelievable!  You think that if a person is not constantly breaking the law that makes him a good guy?  The majority who did nothing wrong have not been arrested.  Some of the hundreds who did break the law are being held to account.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/doj-says-video-of-qanon-shaman-fox-aired-lacks-context/ar-AA18zQbD

 

Going back to my bank robbery analogy, what matters is video of the crime, not videos of routine activities.

We can't just throw people in jail cos we think they aren't "good guys"

 

What did that guy get jail for? 

 

The newly surfaced footage proves he did nothing wrong.

 

7 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I'm struggling to contain my laughter at your whitewashing.

Thanks for keeping us informed.

 

If the footage hadn't been suppressed some of those people might not have gone to jail.

 

Sick that you think it's funny.

Well that did'nt happen! The Donald garnering sympathy from the mindless fools who follow him, lying buffoon!

48 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I saw the guy who got 4 years in prison actually getting a civilized, peaceful, guided tour by Capitol Police throughout the inside of the building, opening locked doors to different rooms for him to view with their keys.

 

I saw him thanking them for their assistance before he left. He did nothing wrong.

 

Why was this footage (evidence) suppressed? Why did he get jail?

 

It wasn't suppressed. TC chose not to use it. Can you spot the difference?

9 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I'm struggling to contain my laughter at your whitewashing.

Don't you think the left media did the whitewashing by only showing the few people that day who rioted rather than showing the whole event?

 

And why didn't they show the footage of Capitol Police assisting them in a guided tour inside, opening locked doors to allow them in to various chambers, particularly the guy who got 4 years jail?