Six in 10 Americans don't want Trump to be president again: 2024 poll

[hotandsticky]

So, does this mean that 40% of Americans DO want Trump to be president again?

[IAMHERE]

Come on folks, it's a statistic. I doubt many political polls are statistically valid. Their business is to use numbers and math to lie.

[LaosLover]

Loving the new poll that shows people finally using the brain that god gave them and abandoning patriotism and religion in droves. Comical graph with arrows pretty much just pointing straight down.

 

So exactly the dross that repubs are selling to ever diminishing (but ever more fervent) numbers. They are offering feathery quill pens in a Tik Tok world.

 

Fatty likes to talk about "retribution"; it's coming and coming hard in 19 months.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I don't think Trump has a chance, but as much as I like Biden, I hope he makes the decision to pass the baton. There's got to be someone. 

Given the media "attention" to any POTUS candidate it's no wonder that good people don't want to do that anymore, IMO.

 

I hope that either Biden or Harris are the candidate ( I could wish for Hillary, but that'd be very unlikely ) as if either of them stand IMO it's likely a landslide for whomever the GOP candidate is.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Best to check the odds being offered by bookmakers, not the polls. They are giving Trump a 50/50 chance of winning the presidential election if he is nominated by the Republican party.

Oh the irony if he does win!

At least it's going to be super entertaining if Trump gets to be the candidate.

[Will B Good]

Well the result of that poll is easily achieved.......as McEnany says (for any poll, the results of which she doesn't like)..............they've asked the wrong people.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Road Warrior said:

if elected then he will cause world war 3 no doughs !!!

Why? He didn't start any wars the last time.

[LaosLover]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh the irony if he does win!

At least it's going to be super entertaining if Trump gets to be the candidate.

Please explain the love affair. You're a well travelled, very erudite atheist. No Trumpite would want anything to with you. 

 

They'd actually prefer me. You'd actually prefer me. What gives?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, LaosLover said:

Please explain the love affair. You're a well travelled, very erudite atheist. No Trumpite would want anything to with you. 

 

They'd actually prefer me. You'd actually prefer me. What gives?

Like many Americans, it's not a case of "lovin" the GOP/ Trump but not wanting the Dems in charge with their <deleted> policies.

 

I'm not at all in favour of excessively rich people, but if they are the only hope of rescuing us from the Dems I'll support one.

[n00dle]

what scares me is that 4 out of 10 do,

[LaosLover]

Your blind faith in Fattie is going to work out about as well as your Thai marriage. I guess for you, disappointment is a kind of drug.

 

Me? I like a big government, free-spending techocrat who can reach across the aisle and get some pot holes filled.

 

And that most def is/was not your guy.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

Your blind faith in Fattie is going to work out about as well as your Thai marriage. I guess for you, disappointment is a kind of drug.

 

Me? I like a big government, free-spending techocrat who can reach across the aisle and get some pot holes filled.

 

And that most def is/was not your guy.

I have to assume that is addressed to myself.

In that case, I don't have faith in any politician I can think of to do a good job, including Trump.

Politics is just too barking these days to have faith in them anymore, IMO.

 

I don't want big government spending my tax dollars- I want local government to spend my tax dollars without impoverishing the ratepayers to do so.

[LaosLover]

T-Beach guy, as always, it comes down to personal experience.

 

You did noble duty as an NHS nurse and saw a lot of government disfunction. I worked as a government analyst and saw a lot of stuff get fixed.

 

The repubs first bit in office is to fire all the analysts because they fear facts like Superman fears kryptonite. So instinctively, I'm not a fan.

 

The gov -like yourself in your career- does the hard stuff that no one wants to do or even will do. The repubs always just try to kick the can down the road and cut taxes for their pals.

[pegman]

I talked to some folks around here and 9 of 10 Canadians don't want him to become president again either 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, LaosLover said:

T-Beach guy, as always, it comes down to personal experience.

 

You did noble duty as an NHS nurse and saw a lot of government disfunction. I worked as a government analyst and saw a lot of stuff get fixed.

 

The repubs first bit in office is to fire all the analysts because they fear facts like Superman fears kryptonite. So instinctively, I'm not a fan.

 

The gov -like yourself in your career- does the hard stuff that no one wants to do or even will do. The repubs always just try to kick the can down the road and cut taxes for their pals.

To be correct, during my time as a nurse I saw so many incompetent managers that I had to assume that was the norm.

Other than giving taxpayer money to managers to waste it, government per se wasn't really involved.

 

 

[johnnybangkok]

And 10 out of 10 of everyone else also don't want him

[xylophone]

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Abortion is murder, end of.

No need to explain further.

Not sure what Trump thinks.

Slight correction needed here: – "Not sure if Trump thinks"

[Jackbenimble]

would they be the same polls that had crooked Hillary winning by a landslide? 

[Jackbenimble]

25 minutes ago, pegman said:

I talked to some folks around here and 9 of 10 Canadians don't want him to become president again either 

you talked to some folks around there.................and correlated that to 9 out of 10 Canadians? Wow.

[candide]

17 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Best to check the odds being offered by bookmakers, not the polls. They are giving Trump a 50/50 chance of winning the presidential election if he is nominated by the Republican party.

Ahem!

2024 US Presidential Odds (as of 28 March)

Candidate Odds Implied Probability

Joe Biden +225 30.7%

Ron DeSantis +300 25%

Donald Trump +350 22.22%

https://bookies.com/news/presidential-election-odds-daily-tracker

[johnnybangkok]

4 minutes ago, Jackbenimble said:

you talked to some folks around there.................and correlated that to 9 out of 10 Canadians? Wow.

He’s obviously joking. 
 

[Jackbenimble]

On 3/29/2023 at 11:44 AM, LaosLover said:

11 million repubs reregistered as independents after Jan 6th. They'll most likely sit out the next election.

 

Add in at least a few million disappointed DeSantis fans. Post court cases, expect a few million more to evaporate 

 

If even 5% of those people hold their noses and vote for Biden, it's a landslide.

 

Meanwhile, post Roe V Wade overturn, the Dem turnout will be high.

 

Where does Trump find the voters to make up for these defections?

 

First, he had the war against wokeness. Now he has the war against arithmetic.

 

 

i think you'll find he was the one who coined the phrase "fake news" and was pilloried as expected by the people he accused of spreading it. Then he won the elction anyway against all the odds and all the so-called predictive polls. Because he was exposing and fighting corruption in government. Lets face it, backing Billary really blew up in their faces as is backing Biden now. Trump needs to get back in and finish what he started.

[bubblegum]

20 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trumps treatment by the unbelievers isn't too different to the way the Romans treated Jesus 

Trump aint no Jesus

[candide]

Of course, MTG will never point at the main source of terrorism (and in particular killings) because It's her friends!

 

"Most violent far-right perpetrators were motivated by white supremacist or anti-government sentiments, and they committed most of the fatal attacks in 2021. Of the 30 fatalities in 2021, 28 resulted from far-right terrorist attacks."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/pushed-extremes-domestic-terrorism-amid-polarization-and-protest

[Salerno]

21 minutes ago, Jackbenimble said:

i think you'll find he was the one who coined the phrase "fake news"

I think you'll find that has as much truth in it as a Trump speach.

 

 

Reporters with various forms of "fake news" from an 1894 illustration by Frederick Burr Opper

[LaosLover]

1 hour ago, Jackbenimble said:

i think you'll find he was the one who coined the phrase "fake news" 

Nope. 11 million defections is a fact. I suppose you're waiting for Milli Vanilli to make a comeback too.

 

We didn't get a wall or $100 a month health insurance. Your guy was asleep at the wheel then and just a leg-clinging whiner now.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Jackbenimble said:

i think you'll find he was the one who coined the phrase "fake news" and was pilloried as expected by the people he accused of spreading it. Then he won the elction anyway against all the odds and all the so-called predictive polls. Because he was exposing and fighting corruption in government. Lets face it, backing Billary really blew up in their faces as is backing Biden now. Trump needs to get back in and finish what he started.

Are you getting confused with Trump being "pilloried for" and him posting and promulgating fake news?

 

The polls did not factor in that Putin was really Trump's running partner.

 

 

Paul Manafort Exclusive: I Gave Trump Campaign Polling Data to Russian Associate (googleusercontent.com)

 

[Yellowtail]

20 hours ago, placeholder said:

I don't know why you think making fun of someone's on account of a speech impediment is a left or right choice.  Are you claiming that mocking someone on account of a speech impediment is okay on the right?

I'm sorry, I think I got to the party late. Whan you said: "We can judge the moral quality of people by their choices. Thanks for sharing one of yours with us.", I thought you were talking about the choice between President Biden and President Trump. 

 

That said, every Republican President in the last 50 years has been called Hitler and any number of other names by the left, so calling out people for calling Biden names seems disingenuous. 

 

It is also interesting that no one (I certainly did not) seemed to know anything about President Biden's speech impediment, until the media started using it as an excuse for the President stumbling though his readings. 

[Phoenix Rising]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is also interesting that no one (I certainly did not) seemed to know anything about President Biden's speech impediment, until the media started using it as an excuse for the President stumbling though his readings. 

It only became an issue when the right started giving infantile names to opponents and slagging off people with disabilities, war heroes etc.

 

[Slip]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sorry, I think I got to the party late. Whan you said: "We can judge the moral quality of people by their choices. Thanks for sharing one of yours with us.", I thought you were talking about the choice between President Biden and President Trump. 

 

That said, every Republican President in the last 50 years has been called Hitler and any number of other names by the left, so calling out people for calling Biden names seems disingenuous. 

 

It is also interesting that no one (I certainly did not) seemed to know anything about President Biden's speech impediment, until the media started using it as an excuse for the President stumbling though his readings. 

So you responded to a quoted comment, without bothering to look at the original comment/ comments it was responding to?  No wonder you post so much confusing nonsense.