webfact Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Vote buying can be a deciding factor in Thai elections at any level – whether for a village head, a local administrator, or a member of Parliament. And the upcoming general election on May 14 is no exception, according to analysts and even politicians themselves. Many Thai election candidates have blamed their defeat on vote buying, while several election wins have been attributed to parties buying votes. Blamed for corruption Vote buying has been blamed for Thailand’s chronic corruption, since many politicians reportedly view it as a high-return investment to secure political power and the chance to “make profits” while in office. Outgoing House Speaker Chuan Leekpai is among political veterans who are warning of rampant vote buying in the run-up to the May 14 election, as parties battle fiercely for votes across the country. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/vote-buying-the-engine-of-corruption-in-thailand/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-05-01 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rwill Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 My wife has been offered 1,000 for her vote so far. That is just from one party. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: Vote buying has been blamed for Thailand’s chronic corruption, since many politicians reportedly view it as a high-return investment to secure political power and the chance to “make profits” while in office. Rotten to the core. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Man Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 What a shame to some of these political parties.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz1 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Yes thall parties are offering 100 baht to 200baht at the local rally to anyone who listens to them of course people are going to take it but the bottom line is it doesn't mean they are going to vote for them this is the way it works here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phetphet Posted May 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, ozz1 said: Yes thall parties are offering 100 baht to 200baht at the local rally to anyone who listens to them of course people are going to take it but the bottom line is it doesn't mean they are going to vote for them this is the way it works here They'll all have to go a lot higher to beat PT's 10,000 offer. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, rwill said: My wife has been offered 1,000 for her vote so far. That is just from one party. How much to agree ? What's you buy point ? Mine for the wife is a new car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, rwill said: My wife has been offered 1,000 for her vote so far. That is just from one party. What happens if you take the money, but cast your vote for someone else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted May 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2023 We're getting pitched every few days, of late, from all parties. It's a way of life. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, DrDave said: What happens if you take the money, but cast your vote for someone else? They take your id card and cast your vote for you???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted May 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2023 5 hours ago, webfact said: Vote buying has been blamed for Thailand’s chronic corruption i'm sorry but this is fake news. i distinctly remember a number of years back a certain someone saying that corruption would be taken care of in 6 months. so this simply cannot be true anymore. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Vote-buying is much more effective than slow-moving speaking vans booming out messages that no-one can hear whilst bringing traffic to a standstill and costing the country millions in fuel consumption. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, DrDave said: What happens if you take the money, but cast your vote for someone else? That is the norm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, phetphet said: They'll all have to go a lot higher to beat PT's 10,000 offer. It is very different to hand out money before the election in order to gain votes than promising voters monetary benefits (whether cash or by way of tax cuts) if said party wins. One is bribery, the other is usually political bull. In the case of PTs offer, this is said to be paid to all only after the election, whether or not they voted for the party. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 6 hours ago, webfact said: Vote buying has been blamed for Thailand’s chronic corruption, since many politicians reportedly view it as a high-return investment to secure political power and the chance to “make profits” while in office. Surely it's a sign of the corruption within Thai society? This is really on the people that take the money, as much as it is on the people giving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 EC offers B1 million reward for info on election cheats News, Post Reporters, Published on 15/04/2023 The Election Commission (EC) is offering up to one million baht to anyone who can provide evidence of electoral corruption including vote buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ignore it Posted May 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2023 Not the engine of corruption. It's the grease. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Surely it's a sign of the corruption within Thai society? This is really on the people that take the money, as much as it is on the people giving it. Would any party take the risk and say, "Vote for us, we will not offer anything for your vote because it is wrong. And we will govern honestly with no need to get back the money we bribed you with." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, greeneking said: Would any party take the risk and say, "Vote for us, we will not offer anything for your vote because it is wrong. And we will govern honestly with no need to get back the money we bribed you with." Nobody would believe them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 "Vote buying can be a deciding factor in Thai elections at any level – whether for a village head, a local administrator, or a member of Parliament." I thought guns and tanks was the deciding factor in any Thai government. Do they even count the votes? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Vote buying now has a new twist: "Vote for our party and we will open up the Thai treasury and give you all your own money, after which you'll be subject to inflation that will decimate most Thai families." This should be outlawed, but virtually every party is now doing it, which shows the depths of depravity and corruption intrinsically bound up in politics. The only "free money" scheme that makes any sense is the 3000 THB / month social safety net for elderly Thais, sort of like social security for those without Thai social security. That is needed imho, however it should be capped by the net worth and present earning resources of the recipient. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 5 hours ago, DrDave said: What happens if you take the money, but cast your vote for someone else? Some people take as much money as they can from more then one party. Lots of stories about this going around. A few years ago the election here did not go as planned and the losing party had a lot of money invested. That night around 3 am i was woken up by a lot of gunshots. Some one drove around the area shooting his AK47 into the air, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 7 hours ago, rwill said: My wife has been offered 1,000 for her vote so far. That is just from one party. Lucky her. I don't think my wife has been offered anything, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 hours ago, ignore it said: Not the engine of corruption. It's the grease. agree.... it's the grease that makes the engine run smoothly 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Off topic post in an attempt to hijack the thread to false claims in the US has been removed. Reply also removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 6 hours ago, mrfill said: In the case of PTs offer, this is said to be paid to all only after the election, whether or not they voted for the party. That is still vote buying, in all forms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSmits Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I do not see that vote buying influences the outcome, it just gets more people to vote, increasing turnout. Family I have will not vote for someone they do not like just for 2- 3 bottles beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 21 hours ago, phetphet said: They'll all have to go a lot higher to beat PT's 10,000 offer. PT has deep pockets. They'll expect payback too, so I hope they get ejected again before they do too much damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, sidneybear said: PT has deep pockets. They'll expect payback too, so I hope they get ejected again before they do too much damage. This possible damage scenario shouldn't be overlooked. Crooked is as crooked does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross163103 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 6:00 PM, Joker Man said: What a shame to some of these political parties.? From all the years I've lived here, not much shame in Thailand........anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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