Is it Joe Bidens turn to face JAIL?

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3 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

I think that despite your very throughly documented (and numerous) posts, nobody really gives a sh.... on charts and figures. Churchill said there are 2 ways to lie.....one is with plainly a lie and the other with stats and so on.

Kindly do not misunderstand. I doubt that any amount of charts would have any influence to change the minds of well matured and nasty characters like most of us here. One will not be able to make a Democrat change his mind, neither will you be able to make a Republican change his either. So what's the point if I may ask and if you do not mind ?

 

A basic and factual element may refer to the retirees pension investments globally speaking.  They gave far better yields under Trump, then with Biden. With that in mind, I may assume that many a Democrat with some grub in his portfolio,  would rightfully prefer a secured future on his investments,  over any other ideology.

Here's one point from the landing page of The World Forum:

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

This keeps the World Forum from turning into the Fiction Forum. 

 

 

[Tug]

Pure desperation on the part of the trumpists.as has been painfully demonstrated allready that an obviously guilty in your face by the perps big bragging at times stupid mouth day after day spewing things that would get a regular citizen locked up can get away with it how on earth do they expect to put president Biden in prison?so nope it’s a trump wet dream 

[observer90210]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Here's one point from the landing page of The World Forum:

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

This keeps the World Forum from turning into the Fiction Forum. 

 

 

My dear co-poster. You are definately doing a good job in giving factual charts, techical references etc to support your allegations. But you do remain a (good) technocrat. No offence please and if this upsets you, I appologize. But the reality I'm afraid is a bit different. If we were solely to abide by facts and figures, the iphone would never have existed !!!!   Policy makers all r in governance,  business... are surrounded by technocrats with facts and figures that can make sense, But one needs to think beyond the box if you wish to acheive innovation and progress. A bit beyond CNN or Fox maybe !!!  But I fully understand for a Carthesian mind, creativity, innovation or common sense can have little meaning and thus the sole arguments stongly remain by the box or the book. My apologies if it makes you unconfortable, no hard feelings. But it's dinner time so kindly allow me to continue (or not) another day. Good night.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

So your sole argument of being credible is per ratio of the number of posts ????? Sorry, but others have a life and do not spend all day just posting to increase the numbers.  You assume a lot. Maybe you should consult for paranoia issues.  Considering your rude comments towards others, I think nobody is going to take you and your 1000 posts very seriously...

Maybe you should actually read his post in its entirety and supply referenced sources to your claims if you want to be taken seriously.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm sure that same situation has recently been applied to someone else in a similarly influential position, 91 times.

There are recordings of Trump commiting crimes and confessing to crimes.

There are recordings (and public appearances) of Biden committing crimes and confessing to crimes!   

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11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are recordings (and public appearances) of Biden committing crimes and confessing to crimes!   

Somebody else needs a reminder that this is not the Fiction Forum:

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Somebody else needs a reminder that this is not the Fiction Forum:

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

Why have you sent me a link to the World News home page...what's that got to do with the price of fish?

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Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Why have you sent me a link to the World News home page...what's that got to do with the price of fish?

Just to show you how links work. In this case a link to the landing page of the World Forum where you'll find the rule I quoted. Apparently, you are either unfamiliar with that rule or don't understand it. To put it in a nutshell it means "Put up or..." Share a link that leads to a credible source that backs up your claim that

"There are recordings (and public appearances) of Biden committing crimes and confessing to crimes! "  

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

So your sole argument of being credible is per ratio of the number of posts ????? Sorry, but others have a life and do not spend all day just posting to increase the numbers.  You assume a lot. Maybe you should consult for paranoia issues.  Considering your rude comments towards others, I think nobody is going to take you and your 1000 posts very seriously...

Did your "life" suddenly end last Friday?  15 of your 64 posts were made since then.  A newby hitting the ground with standard MAGA BS is a red flag.

 

However my main criteria for credibility is the use of credible, linked sources in support of facts.   MAGA types don't do that very often.  When was the last time you did that?

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

And do you have empirical claim to prove the sky is blue ? Usually when people have no idea on what to argue, they pull out the old excuse "bla bla give us figures, claims"....in the Middle ages people like you used to show so-called evidence to back up the fact that the earth was flat and not round.

BS, and of course BS presented without a source.

 

However I'm sure that there are many people in Europe who support Trump, just as there are many fascists in Europe.  There may even be some overlap with the two groups.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, observer90210 said:

I think that despite your very throughly documented (and numerous) posts, nobody really gives a sh.... on charts and figures. Churchill said there are 2 ways to lie.....one is with plainly a lie and the other with stats and so on.

Kindly do not misunderstand. I doubt that any amount of charts would have any influence to change the minds of well matured and nasty characters like most of us here. One will not be able to make a Democrat change his mind, neither will you be able to make a Republican change his either. So what's the point if I may ask and if you do not mind ?

 

A basic and factual element may refer to the retirees pension investments globally speaking.  They gave far better yields under Trump, then with Biden. With that in mind, I may assume that many a Democrat with some grub in his portfolio,  would rightfully prefer a secured future on his investments,  over any other ideology.

Is your argument that facts don't matter?  It certainly seems that way.

 

"A basic and factual element may refer to the retirees pension investments globally speaking.  They gave far better yields under Trump, then with Biden."

 

Do you have a source to back that up?  Or are you just making stuff up?

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, observer90210 said:

My dear co-poster. You are definately doing a good job in giving factual charts, techical references etc to support your allegations. But you do remain a (good) technocrat. No offence please and if this upsets you, I appologize. But the reality I'm afraid is a bit different. If we were solely to abide by facts and figures, the iphone would never have existed !!!!   Policy makers all r in governance,  business... are surrounded by technocrats with facts and figures that can make sense, But one needs to think beyond the box if you wish to acheive innovation and progress. A bit beyond CNN or Fox maybe !!!  But I fully understand for a Carthesian mind, creativity, innovation or common sense can have little meaning and thus the sole arguments stongly remain by the box or the book. My apologies if it makes you unconfortable, no hard feelings. But it's dinner time so kindly allow me to continue (or not) another day. Good night.

That answers my earlier question:  You don't think facts matter.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are recordings (and public appearances) of Biden committing crimes and confessing to crimes!   

And yet you don't provide any links.

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

And do you have empirical claim to prove the sky is blue ? Usually when people have no idea on what to argue, they pull out the old excuse "bla bla give us figures, claims"....in the Middle ages people like you used to show so-called evidence to back up the fact that the earth was flat and not round.

Here's an inconvenient fact for you:  People who believe in facts and logic have known that the earth is round for over 2000 years, and were able to come up with a pretty good estimate of its size.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

 

BTW:  https://www.newsweek.com/even-middle-ages-people-didnt-think-earth-was-flat-420775

[RayC]

So both Biden and Trump to be jailed. Why not house Congress and the Supreme Court in the same facility? Capital Hill and the White House could then either be turned into social housing or a theme park. Selfishly, my preference is for the second option.

 

I'm always here to help????

[SunnyinBangrak]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

First off, where is the evidence that any of this money came from the governments of China, Russia or Ukraine? Was it a crime to do business with companies located in China, Russia, or Ukraine? Because if it was, thousands of business people should now be occupying jail cells. In fact, the so called Russian payment came from an oligarch who fled Russia because of a dispute she had with the Russian govt. She's wanted for arrest by the Russian govt. She's lived in the UK since 2010. And that's where that payment came from.

The companies CEFC and Burisma were effectively state controlled. 

 

"It has a rare contract to store part of the nation’s strategic oil reserve, gained financing from the state-owned China Development Bank (CDB) and has hired a number of former top officials from state-owned energy companies, CEFC officials said. It also has layers of Communist Party committees"

across its subsidiaries – more than at many private Chinese companies."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cefc-china-idUSKBN14X0B5

 

You can certainly see why the only option was to deny the payments were made, seeing as they(along with the web of 20 shell companies, and the frequent false denials of any of this having ever happened) are impossible to explain or justify.

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53 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The companies CEFC and Burisma were effectively state controlled. 

 

"It has a rare contract to store part of the nation’s strategic oil reserve, gained financing from the state-owned China Development Bank (CDB) and has hired a number of former top officials from state-owned energy companies, CEFC officials said. It also has layers of Communist Party committees"

across its subsidiaries – more than at many private Chinese companies."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cefc-china-idUSKBN14X0B5

 

You can certainly see why the only option was to deny the payments were made, seeing as they(along with the web of 20 shell companies, and the frequent false denials of any of this having ever happened) are impossible to explain or justify.

Effectively state control? Buriisma had the prosecutor in its pocket. The Chinese company had a government contract? Didn't that company go bankrupt? That's your reasoning? Wasn't the CEO of this company ultimately jailed on corruption charges?

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[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

If you are talking about Hunter Biden, I am sure he is guilty of some crime. Leeching off family connections should be discouraged.

 

Same with Jared Kushner.

No, I'm talking about Joe Biden, a guy been in politics most of his life and yet seems unusually wealthy for a public servant since age 27 ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joe-Biden ).

 

I agree about Kushner, but he's another topic.

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, I'm talking about Joe Biden, a guy been in politics most of his life and yet seems unusually wealthy for a public servant since age 27 ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joe-Biden ).

 

I agree about Kushner, but he's another topic.

If you actually bothered to do even a cursory investigation of Biden's income you would find that it's all been legitimately accounted for. But I guess you would rather indulge in empty speculation.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

There are recordings of Trump commiting crimes and confessing to crimes.

 

 

and yet, and yet he continues to walk free as an unconvicted criminal.

I would not be at all surprised to learn that a billionaire committed a crime or two along the way, but in Trump's case, living a very public life, are either buried so deep as not able to be found, or so minor as to not amounting to much.

 

As I see it, his crime was exposing the Washington "swamp" ( in his words ) for all to see, and for that he will never be forgiven, IMO.

Prior to his 2016 campaign probably everyone knew, but no one was prepared to use it against them.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, I'm talking about Joe Biden, a guy been in politics most of his life and yet seems unusually wealthy for a public servant since age 27 ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joe-Biden ).

 

I agree about Kushner, but he's another topic.

https://www.caclubindia.com/wealth/joe-biden-net-worth/

 

Net worth $58M nearly all acquired during being Obama's VP and himself being President.

Hunter Biden has acquired $100Ms in that same period.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

You are saying that asking for proof is a bad thing?

 

Really?

 

Not when professing to provide facts, but some "facts" are not actually "facts" as in when polls are used to support a position, but are just based on a very small sample of people, and we all know about polls, don't we, LOL?

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If you actually bothered to do even a cursory investigation of Biden's income you would find that it's all been legitimately accounted for. But I guess you would rather indulge in empty speculation.

Millions in gifts from the Rothschilds, Soros, Saudi royals, including a yacht and a mansion.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me!

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, RayC said:

So both Biden and Trump to be jailed. Why not house Congress and the Supreme Court in the same facility? Capital Hill and the White House could then either be turned into social housing or a theme park. Selfishly, my preference is for the second option.

 

I'm always here to help????

If an alien force arrived on planet Earth and jailed every politician and government bureaucrat on the planet, one might suspect the rest of us would not be unhappy about that.

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Just now, BritManToo said:

Millions in gifts from the Rothschilds, Soros, Saudi royals, including a yacht and a mansion.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me!

Once again, you need some schooling:

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

Put up or...

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1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If an alien force arrived on planet Earth and jailed every politician and government bureaucrat on the planet, one might suspect the rest of us would not be unhappy about that.

One might and one would be wrong.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Once again, you need some schooling:

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

 

Put up or...

Link was only 2 posts back, but here it is again ........................

https://www.caclubindia.com/wealth/joe-biden-net-worth/

[impulse]

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If you actually bothered to do even a cursory investigation of Biden's income you would find that it's all been legitimately accounted for. But I guess you would rather indulge in empty speculation.

Do you have a link for that?  Proof that Biden's income and net worth have been legitimately accounted for?

 

Thought not... 

 

why is it that you demand links only from one side?

 

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[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, I'm talking about Joe Biden, a guy been in politics most of his life and yet seems unusually wealthy for a public servant since age 27 ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joe-Biden ).

 

I agree about Kushner, but he's another topic.

Biden has been audited by the Trump IRS repeatedly. They found nothing wrong.

 

What facts do you have that the IRS doesn't?

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

Do you have a link for that?  Proof that Biden's income and net worth have been legitimately accounted for?

 

Thought not... 

 

why is it that you demand links only from one side?

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs-president-audit-congress/