Thailand grants citizenship to half a million people – but not farangs

[webfact]

UPDATE - This week, there appeared to be little traction in the public’s mind or acceptance that the results of the General Election outcome, acclaimed, more and more, as a historic shift for Thailand, could be overturned by the Election Commission’s pursuit of a complaint against the expected leader of the next government Mr Pita Limjaroenrat. Mr Pita, the Move Forward Party boss, doggedly pressed ahead not only with his coalition-building efforts in the face of rumours of an alternative coalition and tensions with the Pheu Thai Party over the position of Speaker of the House of Representatives but also signalled a determination to proceed with his party’s economic policies and pledges including a new minimum wage of ฿450 within 100 days of the new government taking up office.

Fears raised this week of the possibility of the May 14th General Election being nullified because of growing speculation over the fate of Move Forward Party leader Mr Pita Limjaroenrat were dismissed by Mr Pita himself on Friday who said the matter is under control and that he had been asked to provide further information that day by the Election Commission. Earlier in the week, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam set off a storm of speculation by suggesting that a court-ordered new election is one of the outcomes possible as the public awaits the Election Commission’s decision on the matter. Even if it rules against Mr Pita, a decision by the country’s Constitutional Court may not come until November this year, months after the new coalition government hopes to take office in the middle of August.

Tensions continue to rise in the political world with comments in recent days from Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam suggesting that there is the possibility that the General Election result could be nullified and a new poll ordered if both the Election Commission and the Constitutional Court take a certain view over a complaint lodged linked with a defunct media shareholding held by Mr Pita Limjaroenrat, the leader of the victorious Move Forward Party.

 

by Joseph O' Connor

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/06/03/pita-limjaroenrat-shares-cast-pall-over-general-election-result-nullify/

 

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[KCPhuket]

Move Forward. New in old out. Too many years of army boys. Any excuse to cling to power. And former PM lurking.

[Billybaroo]

Drip, drip, drip to the inevitable. Nullify the election, bar Pita from running for office and the return of the old guard. 

[ikke1959]

Thailand so afraid of renewing and modernizing. The old guards wants o stay in power, control the people and play many tricks to prevent that the country enters the 21st century.  pita is the thread according to them, so he must leave although the people wants to get rid of the old, conservative non working but pocket filling elite/army generals.  

[sikishrory]

I would say after the story of the Satthahip (or?) Chonburi election being rigged by the electoral commission just a few weeks ago that they have no integrity to be investigating anyone.

[scorecard]

7 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

I would say after the story of the Satthahip (or?) Chonburi election being rigged by the electoral commission just a few weeks ago that they have no integrity to be investigating anyone.

Please share.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Who is Pita blaming for his inability to follow the law? 

[Pink Mist]

An off topic post dragging the US into the OP and a reply have been removed 

[sikishrory]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Please share.

https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/mfp-candidate-demands-general-election-in-sattahip-to-be-void

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Fears raised this week of the possibility

Fears & possibilities... scaremongering.

[hotchilli]

48 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Thailand so afraid of renewing and modernizing. The old guards wants o stay in power, control the people and play many tricks to prevent that the country enters the 21st century.  pita is the thread according to them, so he must leave although the people wants to get rid of the old, conservative non working but pocket filling elite/army generals.  

The people may have to take to the streets and oust the old school the old way... kick-em out.

[John harrison]

Expect chaos and turmoil throughout Thailand if Pita & Move Forward are prevented from carrying out the democratic will of the people.... 

[Tom H]

Everybody knows the rules. 

Why has he shares and takes such a risk?

 

 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

56 minutes ago, John harrison said:

Expect chaos and turmoil throughout Thailand if Pita & Move Forward are prevented from carrying out the democratic will of the people.... 

That is exactly what will happen!

[dinsdale]

How to win when you lose. Get rid of the winner. People take to the streets. Army deployed. Army plants small bombs (pingpong bombs etc) around BKK. Coup is announced. Army remains in power.

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Who is Pita blaming for his inability to follow the law? 

You are sitting in the drivers seat of a car with the engine removed and a wheel missing. You’ve had a few beers but a policeman charges you with the offence of "being in charge of a motor vehicle while under the influence ". Who are YOU blaming for your ‘inability to follow the law"….? 

[Henryford]

1 hour ago, John harrison said:

Expect chaos and turmoil throughout Thailand if Pita & Move Forward are prevented from carrying out the democratic will of the people.... 

Exactly what the Army want, another coup will be necessary to restore "Peace and Order".

[jacko45k]

Just now, nchuckle said:

You are sitting in the drivers seat of a car with the engine removed and a wheel missing. You’ve had a few beers but a policeman charges you with the offence of "being in charge of a motor vehicle while under the influence ". Who are YOU blaming for your ‘inability to follow the law"….? 

How can it be a motor vehicle without a motor?

[zzaa09]

2 hours ago, Billybaroo said:

Drip, drip, drip to the inevitable. Nullify the election, bar Pita from running for office and the return of the old guard. 

Shocking, as this has never happened before.......

????????

[stoner]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Fears raised this week of the possibility

Fears & possibilities... scaremongering.

lions and tigers and bears.....o my

[spidermike007]

Any excuse to deny the will of the people. The toxic dinosaurs do not understand the ramifications of this power trip they are engaging in. The people will not tolerate it again, and the army does not have the option of another coup, now that all the moral authority is gone. 

 

Granted, Pita should have seen this coming. The party should have selected multiple potential candidates and he should have divested the stock already. But, this is simply a ruse by the spectacularly corrupt, bought and paid for election commission. 

 

Hopefully, the people will rise up and not tolerate this kind of chicanery. 

[mikeymike100]

16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How to win when you lose. Get rid of the winner. People take to the streets. Army deployed. Army plants small bombs (pingpong bombs etc) around BKK. Coup is announced. Army remains in power.

You may well be right, but didn't some guy, high up, in the army say the word coup is not in our vocabulary?

[smutcakes]

1 hour ago, Tom H said:

Everybody knows the rules. 

Why has he shares and takes such a risk?

 

 

When he became an MP he decalerd the shares with the NACC as required under law, and due to them being part of an ongoing lawsuit and heritage from an inheritance they had no issue 2with it. No obviisuly the EC will have a different view.

 

Edit to say: but agree it was a stupid risk to take if he could of changed anything.

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by smutcakes

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

The people may have to take to the streets and oust the old school the old way... kick-em out.

That has never worked, has it. They protest with mobile phone lights and rubber ducks and the army responds with tear gas, tanks and guns. Closing down the airports and the ports and sticking it out no matter what is probably the only way to get change. Setting up platforms on traffic intersections will not.

[spidermike007]

21 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Exactly what the Army want, another coup will be necessary to restore "Peace and Order".

The army does not have the guts to wage war against their people, Burma style. And the moral authority that was there in the past, is gone, baby gone.

 

Nah. It won't happen. The Thai soldiers, and the families of the soldiers would never tolerate their sons murdering innocent Thais. And the Thai soldiers are not facing the level of desperation the young Burmese are. The poverty here is not as grinding as it is in Burma. I do not think it could be sustained, if the fools started it. Thailand is a very different culture than Burma, on a dozen significant levels. And the youth now, are very different people than they were during past coups, which were violent. Parents would give their sons a choice. If you kill fellow Thais for the murderous officers, you will be disowned by your family. 

 

Everything has changed. 

Edited June 5, 2023 by spidermike007

[stoner]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

The army does not have the guts to wage war against their people, Burma style. And the moral authority that was there in the past, is gone, baby gone.

 

Nah. It won't happen. The Thai soldiers, and the families of the soldiers would never tolerate their sons murdering innocent Thais. And the Thai soldiers are not facing the level of desperation the young Burmese are. The poverty here is not as grinding as it is in Burma. I do not think it could be sustained, if the fools started it. Thailand is a very different culture than Burma, on a dozen significant levels. And the youth now, are very different people than they were during past coups, which were violent. Parents would give their sons a choice. If you kill fellow Thais for the murderous officers, you will be disowned by your family. 

 

Everything has changed. 

you are live on facebook you sure you want to shoot me in the face...o ya and my 19 other friends are also live streaming me. 

 

not a good look for tourism me thinks. 

[Pedrogaz]

Here's hoping that this seriously weakens the baht.

[Chongalulu]

33 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

34 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

in the drivers seat of a car with the engine removed and a wheel missing. You’ve had a few beers but a policeman charges you with the offence of "being in charge of a motor vehicle while under the influence ". Who are YOU blaming for your ‘inability to follow the law"….? 

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How can it be a motor vehicle without a motor?

Exactly. Thanks for reinforcing my point....

[RichardColeman]

I imagine the old school fear the new school checking their bank accounts

[clokwise]

I've heard there has been discussions of a possible general strike in BKK. To me that sounds the most plausible response to this. If the old farts want to stick around longer, just shut down the country. No one needs to protest in the streets, just stay home. Those dinosaurs will get the message pretty quick.