Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

[billd766]

21 minutes ago, bignok said:

Yes they do. Fascism.

BS from you as usual.

 

They announced who they were and what they were there for.

 

Yes they broke the door into the house down, yet he came forward ready to shoot and kill the agents.

 

Normal people would simply open the door and accept the warrant.

 

Then again normal people don't threaten to kill the President and other people, nor do they come to the door with a gun and threaten FBI agents.

 

Perhaps they do where you come from. That I don't know, nor am I really interested.

[candide]

31 minutes ago, bignok said:

Yes they do. Fascism.

Trolling again?

[Berkshire]

16 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm a Marxist, wouldn't vote for Trump or Biden. I haven't voted since Arthur Skargill's Socialist Labour Party gave up.

No offence but you seem pretty sensible - why would you want to iD as a marxist?

Is it just an academiic thing or serious?

 

I guess you're aware of the horseshoe theory - at least you're allowed to keep your 'stuff' under capitalism.  

I guess marxism would be fine if you work high up in the regime but otherwise can't see the benefit.

 

It's also NEVER worked in practice.  Sorry for asking but WTF?

You misunderstand.  It seems many people refuse to admit that they're a Trump supporter because it would mean, among other things, that they fell for the conman and his scam.  Sort of like falling for a Nigerian scam, most are too embarrassed to admit it.  In the BritMan's case, he'd rather admit that he was a Marxist than a Trump supporter.  Can't say I blame him. 

[metisdead]

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[PremiumLane]

What do conservatives always scream when the cops shoot someone? Oh yeah, he should have complied. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, ICU Kid said:

No offence but you seem pretty sensible - why would you want to iD as a marxist?

Is it just an academiic thing or serious?

 

I guess you're aware of the horseshoe theory - at least you're allowed to keep your 'stuff' under capitalism.  

I guess marxism would be fine if you work high up in the regime but otherwise can't see the benefit.

 

It's also NEVER worked in practice.  Sorry for asking but WTF?

Off topic,

Karl Marx, the great man, never worked a day in his life, considered women to be property (not worth the mention) married a Baroness and lived off her income, impregnated both her and her maid, and wanted the workers to get a better deal.

 

What's not to admire about him?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics.

But sadly I'm extreme left wing.

[ICU Kid]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Off topic,

Karl Marx, the great man, never worked a day in his life, considered women to be property (not worth the mention) married a Baroness and lived off her income, impregnated both her and her maid, and wanted the workers to get a better deal.

 

What's not to admire about him?

I get that but no need to call yourself a 'Marxist'. 

Not sure he actually gave a <> about workers - 50/50 chance it was just a grift for power.

 

PS. I like Trump cos he annoys ALL the right people, has never worked a day in his life,  bangs the most expensive <>s, and says he puts America First but would never call myself a Trumpist : )

[ozimoron]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

No freedom of speech in the USA.

Dissent and be shot in your own home by the FBI.

Maybe they should amalgamate the first and second amendments. Some people can't tell them apart anyway.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But sadly I'm extreme left wing.

You obviously don’t understand the political spectrum isn’t a straight line, it’s sits on a circle.

 

The extremes of right and left meet and are indistinguishable.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, ICU Kid said:

No offence but you seem pretty sensible - why would you want to iD as a marxist?

Is it just an academiic thing or serious?

 

I guess you're aware of the horseshoe theory - at least you're allowed to keep your 'stuff' under capitalism.  

I guess marxism would be fine if you work high up in the regime but otherwise can't see the benefit.

 

It's also NEVER worked in practice.  Sorry for asking but WTF?

No country has ever been communist and every country is socialist.

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[Atlantis]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics.

 

There’s a reason law enforcement officers executing lawful, court warrant approved, entry and search always go in armed. 
 

And it’s not to murder anyone to deny their free speech.

 

Pointing a gun at anyone, is not free speech, pointing a gun at officers enacting a lawful entry and search is not free speech.

"The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics "- he says.

Jesus Christ! Apparently types that out 'with a straight face'.
No no my over-eager fellow poster, it is LEFTWING grievance politics, especially tear-down-the-system "PROGRESSIVE" politics that seeks to regressively destroy the whole system due to perceived "injustices" fed to gullible non-critical thinkers some of whom has an arrogance disdain for learning. Or reading factual news outside of their own bubble.

[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You obviously don’t understand the political spectrum isn’t a straight line, it’s sits on a circle.

 

The extremes of right and left meet and are indistinguishable.

Oh wow, on the next page, the hypocrisy is laid out as clear as day. This post was in response to Brit's post "But sadly I'm extreme left wing. "
Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, take note:

If it's bad and I disagree, it's "rightwing ", but in case it is actually from an extreme leftwing person, it's "rightwing" anyway.

Beautiful.

 

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[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

No country has ever been communist and every country is socialist.

I think pretty much every single historian, sociologist, politician worthy of the title would disagree with your non-sense characterization. But then again, progressive types seem to have trouble with basic definitions of words in English.

 

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4 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Oh wow, on the next page, the hypocrisy is laid out as clear as day. This post was in response to Brit's post "But sadly I'm extreme left wing. "
Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, take note:

If it's bad and I disagree, it's "rightwing ", but in case it is actually from an extreme leftwing person, it's "rightwing" anyway.

Beautiful.

 

Anybody can call themselves anything they want. But it doesn't matter how what wing someone assigns themself to if the positions they take consistently contradict that self-assessment.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

"The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics "- he says.

Jesus Christ! Apparently types that out 'with a straight face'.
No no my over-eager fellow poster, it is LEFTWING grievance politics, especially tear-down-the-system "PROGRESSIVE" politics that seeks to regressively destroy the whole system due to perceived "injustices" fed to gullible non-critical thinkers some of whom has an arrogance disdain for learning. Or reading factual news outside of their own bubble.

‘Tear down the system’ is a rallying cry of both extremes, left and right.

 

It was central to Marxism and it’s a central theme of the modern US Alt-right, Steve Bannon being a proponent of note.

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/23/politics/steve-bannon-world-view/index.html

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Oh wow, on the next page, the hypocrisy is laid out as clear as day. This post was in response to Brit's post "But sadly I'm extreme left wing. "
Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, take note:

If it's bad and I disagree, it's "rightwing ", but in case it is actually from an extreme leftwing person, it's "rightwing" anyway.

Beautiful.

 

I tend to assess members political leaning on the basis of the posts they make, not on the basis of what they claim to be their allegiance.

 

The two are frequently at odds with each other.

[Atlantis]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Anybody can call themselves anything they want. But it doesn't matter how what wing someone assigns themself to if the positions they take consistently contradict that self-assessment.

Thanks for the attempted dodge on another's behalf. It addresses zilch concerning the meme-like use of "right-wing" to actually mean "anything I don't like".
 

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[pub2022]

Pop star Madonna has threaten many times to set the White House on fire...

[Atlantis]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Tear down the system’ is a rallying cry of both extremes, left and right.

 

It was central to Marxism and it’s a central theme of the modern US Alt-right, Steve Bannon being a proponent of note.

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/23/politics/steve-bannon-world-view/index.html

This is not in dispute, and I've posted about this concerning people like Carlson and left-leaning US personalities like Jimmy Dore.
What is very much in dispute is your 100% tendency to characterize extremist views as "rightwing" out of apparent reflex reaction.

[observer90210]

Nothing really new in with the trigger-happy-gun n'velcro tooting,  law enforcement in America.

[Atlantis]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I tend to assess members political leaning on the basis of the posts they make, not on the basis of what they claim to be their allegiance.

 

The two are frequently at odds with each other.

Then again, from your own (apparently not sarcastic posts), Bill Maher - as about as <deleted> liberal as you can get - is questionably liberal to you.
The very normal term "far left" - a term used by the BBC to describe a leading French presidential candidate - confuses you.
And more recently, anyone who has a strong negative reaction to the celebration of removal of healthy breast tissue at a coffee store is a "bigoted snowflake"

The above evidence suggests your appraisal of what might constitute "left wing" and "right wing" may be affected by your own fairly extremist positions.

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9 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Thanks for the attempted dodge on another's behalf. It addresses zilch concerning the meme-like use of "right-wing" to actually mean "anything I don't like".
 

Well, you may consider yourself entitled to generalize from a few comments. But all I know is that in this particular case, based on the evidence, the classification was well deserved.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

This is not in dispute, and I've posted about this concerning people like Carlson and left-leaning US personalities like Jimmy Dore.
What is very much in dispute is your 100% tendency to characterize extremist views as "rightwing" out of apparent reflex reaction.

It wasn’t a ‘reflex reaction’.

 

It made my comment in consideration of the long posting history of the member to whom I was responding.

I’m glad we agree the issue here is the extremists views.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Then again, from your own (apparently not sarcastic posts), Bill Maher - as about as <deleted> liberal as you can get - is questionably liberal to you.
The very normal term "far left" - a term used by the BBC to describe a leading French presidential candidate - confuses you.
And more recently, anyone who has a strong negative reaction to the celebration of removal of healthy breast tissue at a coffee store is a "bigoted snowflake"

The above evidence suggests your appraisal of what might constitute "left wing" and "right wing" may be affected by your own fairly extremist positions.

What you claim to be your ‘evidence’ is nothing g of the sort.

 

If you wish to make statements and attribute them to my past posts you need to link to those posts.

 

Inventing points of view for other members is not evidence of their views.

 

 

[heybruce]

28 minutes ago, pub2022 said:

Pop star Madonna has threaten many times to set the White House on fire...

First:  Sources?

 

Second:  Did she post pictures of her rifles?  Did she threaten FBI agents who questioned her about these threats?  Did she point a gun at agents serving a warrant on her?

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51 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

This is not in dispute, and I've posted about this concerning people like Carlson and left-leaning US personalities like Jimmy Dore.
What is very much in dispute is your 100% tendency to characterize extremist views as "rightwing" out of apparent reflex reaction.

Jimmy Dore? When I saw his name mentioned in your comment I asked myself "Who the hell is Jimmy Dore?" Whereas very few people who follow the American political scene would have to ask themselves "Who the hell is Hunter Carlson?" And that, I think, tells us more about the difference between the right and the left in America than do any faults shared by those two gentlemen. That is assuming that your characterization of Jimmy Dore is accurate. I mean, after all, why the hell should I care about what Jimmy Dore says? 

[Bkk Brian]

The continual anti FBI sentiment from Trump, Fox and his followers together with the GOP has a lot to do with this guys indoctrination and subsequent death in my opinion.