Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

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3 hours ago, Atlantis said:

"The kind of misrepresentation of facts that characterizes rightwing grievance politics "- he says.

Jesus Christ! Apparently types that out 'with a straight face'.
No no my over-eager fellow poster, it is LEFTWING grievance politics, especially tear-down-the-system "PROGRESSIVE" politics that seeks to regressively destroy the whole system due to perceived "injustices" fed to gullible non-critical thinkers some of whom has an arrogance disdain for learning. Or reading factual news outside of their own bubble.

Another fact-rich post in no way resembling a rant.

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[herfiehandbag]

On 8/10/2023 at 2:57 PM, BTB1977 said:

So much for free speech.  And having an opinion.  The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas 

For crying out loud. The FBI went to his house to serve a warrant. He had made a number of posts stating that he owned firearms and threatening to kill federal officials, including the President.

He met them brandishing a weapon.

 

In just about every country, ( including the UK) if he had done that armed policemen would have been present when the warrant was served, and if he produced a firearm he would have been shot.

[Felton Jarvis]

On 8/10/2023 at 1:14 PM, ozimoron said:

So, Trump's call for violence didn't go unheeded. More to come, no doubt.

I could have predicted how this would end. The law is deadly serious about threatening the President and law enforcement.

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I could have predicted how this would end. The law is deadly serious about threatening the President and law enforcement.

What we couldn't have predicted was that the tip off apparently came from Truth Social.

 

https://apnews.com/article/utah-biden-fbi-assassination-threat-ba3cc1d3b2f6cca8bd429febdcf04219

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[Hanaguma]

The fact that this guy should be investigated is not the issue. The conduct of the FBI IS the issue.

 

You have  a 300 pound, 75 year old man who cannot walk without a cane. Is he really a threat to be a sniper?

 

The FBI chooses to raid his house at 615am. A time when he is probably asleep and will be startled by the sudden noise and commotion. Why? Obviously to provoke a response that will let them play Robocop. 

 

Hell, just wait until he totters outside to collect his mail and then arrest him without the violence.  

 

Waiting for any bodycamera footage that shows him threatening law enforcement with a weapon. Otherwise, the FBI was deliberately messing up their own crime scene by dragging his body outside, then leaving it on the sidewalk for two hours.  

 

Seems like a way overzealous police response, sadly something that is all too common in the US these days.

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9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The fact that this guy should be investigated is not the issue. The conduct of the FBI IS the issue.

 

You have  a 300 pound, 75 year old man who cannot walk without a cane. Is he really a threat to be a sniper?

Snipers are the guys who shoot at targets a long way away. What has that got to do with claims here.? Did this guy live on an estate? Or were they at close range where he could do a lot of damage? And what has his weight got to do with his trigger finger?

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[Hanaguma]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Snipers are the guys who shoot at targets a long way away. What has that got to do with claims here.? Did this guy live on an estate? Or were they at close range where he could do a lot of damage? And what has his weight got to do with his trigger finger?

Guys his age, weight, and physical condition do not snipers make. The man couldnt walk two blocks to church, he isnt going to play Lee Harvey Oswald. 

 

As to the conduct of the FBI.... any comment?

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1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Guys his age, weight, and physical condition do not snipers make. The man couldnt walk two blocks to church, he isnt going to play Lee Harvey Oswald. 

 

As to the conduct of the FBI.... any comment?

What don't you understand about the fact that the skills of sniper aren't necessary to hit a target close range?

 

I think investigation of their conduct is definitely called for. But I certainly wouldn't invoke the someone needed the skills of a sniper in this case. Why do you feel the need to exaggerate to such an extent? 

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Guys his age, weight, and physical condition do not snipers make. The man couldnt walk two blocks to church, he isnt going to play Lee Harvey Oswald. 

 

As to the conduct of the FBI.... any comment?

He is clearly morbidly obese and possibly wanted to go out in a blaze of glory instead of just another unknown old fat guy.

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

For crying out loud. The FBI went to his house to serve a warrant. He had made a number of posts stating that he owned firearms and threatening to kill federal officials, including the President.

He met them brandishing a weapon.

 

In just about every country, ( including the UK) if he had done that armed policemen would have been present when the warrant was served, and if he produced a firearm he would have been shot.

Some truly amazing posts on here. 

 

So if somebody goes on line and says over and over that he doesn't like YOU and is going to kill you as well as several of your colleagues and the police go to his house in an effort to protect YOU.  The police already know the guy has a house full of guns as he has posted that over and over and has threatened over and over to use them. 

 

So the guy pulls a gun on the police and after telling him over and over to drop the weapon that he is pointing at them the cops shoot him then according to some of the posters on here the police should have just left him alone as they have violated his "free speech"?  

 

How far down the rabbit hole do you have to be to say crap like that?  Pathetic.

[pegman]

This reminds me of an old Western proverb.

 

Live by the gun,

Die by the bullet

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Guys his age, weight, and physical condition do not snipers make. The man couldnt walk two blocks to church, he isnt going to play Lee Harvey Oswald. 

 

As to the conduct of the FBI.... any comment?

Could he pull a trigger?

[pomchop]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Could he pull a trigger?

Could he take an automatic weapon to a school or mall or a voting precinct and sit in his car and shoot random people?

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Could he pull a trigger?

Are you advocating shooting all individuals who are capable of pulling a trigger? Oh dear.... 

[pomchop]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Could he pull a trigger?

I suspect than just about any deranged idiot could sit in a car and pull a trigger.....to read some of the posters on here it is obvious that they want you to believe that the guy made some simple little off the cuff post on FB and the FBI decided to just storm his house for no good reason...this guy had been at it for a long time per below since at least march 5 months or more....the FBI had a warrant, he refused to comply and allegedly pulled one of his many guns and got his ass shot....so the party of "law and order" apparently sides with a guy threatening multiple murders over the court issued supeona and enforced by the FBI......everyone has a right to be an idiot it appears.

 

The FBI investigation began with a tip about the Bragg threat from Trump’s own social media platform Truth Social in March, after Robertson posted about “waiting in the courthouse parking garage” with a suppressed weapon and wanting to “put a nice hole in his forehead.” 

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3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Are you advocating shooting all individuals who are capable of pulling a trigger? Oh dear.... 

Nonsense. The issue is whether this party threatened the FBI agents with a weapon? Do you know for a fact that he didn't?

[Skipalongcassidy]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. The issue is whether this party threatened the FBI agents with a weapon? Do you know for a fact that he didn't?

The guy was a nutter but he was in his house and the FBI were invading... remember WACO

[Bkk Brian]

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Guys his age, weight, and physical condition do not snipers make. The man couldnt walk two blocks to church, he isnt going to play Lee Harvey Oswald. 

 

As to the conduct of the FBI.... any comment?

Agreed, a sniper he was not, a wannabe sniper, maybe. The FBI had visited him months before after being tipped off by Truth Social but he just told them to go away. After that his threats on social media got worse. The FBI returned, this time with a warrant. He should have complied with their instructions rather than point a weapon at them. Only a fool would point a gun at FBI agents executing a warrant in your home. 

 

Of course the FBI could have waited for him to potentially shoot one of them first. I'm sure some would have loved that.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/joe-biden-utah-fbi-threats-b2391732.html

[EVENKEEL]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. The issue is whether this party threatened the FBI agents with a weapon? Do you know for a fact that he didn't?

The poster I responded to seems to think it's not nonsense.

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3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The guy was a nutter but he was in his house and the FBI were invading... remember WACO

So, if the FBI attempts to serve a warrant, it is permissible to threaten them with weapons? Waco was, in effect, a hostage situation. That wasn't the case here.

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Are you advocating shooting all individuals who are capable of pulling a trigger? Oh dear.... 

What made you think he was advocating that, did you actually read the post he was responding to and why he said it?

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8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The poster I responded to seems to think it's not nonsense.

Really? I wasn't aware that Chomper Higgott had replied to you yet. Are you reading his mind?  I am aware that Chomper Higgot's comment was in response to nonsense from Hanaguma that because Robertson wasn't a sniper, therefore he posed no threat. As though the highly specialized skills of snipers, who are trained to shoot at targets from a long distance,  or even his physical fitness, are relevant in this case. 

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[Skipalongcassidy]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So, if the FBI attempts to serve a warrant, it is permissible to threaten them with weapons? Waco was, in effect, a hostage situation. That wasn't the case here.

There are ways to serve a warrant that doesn't involve a "gang" of agents rushing the property...  for instance no "gang" served Hunter his warrant.

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Just now, Skipalongcassidy said:

There are ways to serve a warrant that doesn't involve a "gang" of agents rushing the property...  for instance no "gang" served Hunter his warrant.

I forget all about the death threats that Hunter Biden repeatedly posted. I can't seem to find any via google. Could you share with the rest of us links to those? On the off chance that they don't exist, could you explain why your mention of Hunter Biden isn't ridiculous? 

[EVENKEEL]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really? I wasn't aware that Chomper Higgott had replied to you yet. Are you reading his mind?  I am aware that Chomper Higgot's comment was in response to nonsense from Hanaguma that because Robertson wasn't a sniper, therefore he posed no threat. As though the highly specialized skills of snipers, who are trained to shoot at targets from a long distance,  or even his physical fitness, are relevant in this case. 

CH knows he misspoke about the trigger finger and you're not helping.

[Skipalongcassidy]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I forget all about the death threats that Hunter Biden repeatedly posted. I can't seem to find any via google. Could you share with the rest of us links to those? On the off chance that they don't exist, could you explain why your mention of Hunter Biden isn't ridiculous? 

If you would open your eyes... my comment was about the fbi serving a warrant to a man still in his own home... he was not a threat at the time until they arrived enmass.

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2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

CH knows he misspoke about the trigger finger and you're not helping.

Can you show me where Chomper Higgott replied to this comment of yours?

Mind-reading much?

 

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3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If you would open your eyes... my comment was about the fbi serving a warrant to a man still in his own home... he was not a threat at the time until they arrived enmass.

The FBI had strong grounds to believe that Robertson would violently resist arrest. What has this got to do with Hunter Biden? Did the FBI have strong grounds to believe that Hunter Biden would violently resist arrest? Or even resist arrest at all?

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Can you show me where Chomper Higgott replied to this comment of yours?

Mind-reading much?

 

I wasn't aware of your new status or job title on here. Extremely humorous of you, thanks for the laff.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If you would open your eyes... my comment was about the fbi serving a warrant to a man still in his own home... he was not a threat at the time until they arrived enmass.

He had made multiple threats, that's why they arrived, pity he pointed a gun at them.