Trump surrenders for historic fourth arrest

[TimeMachine]

There's a new Obama in town. Looks like he's the obvious choice.  Speaks well,  energetic,  shows some great reasoning skills. 

Will he be president? No chance.  But then again,  i thought that about Obama. If Trump is not trustable and Biden not at all capable,  I cant see anybody else except ChatGPT for President. 

[Sing_Sling]

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You can celebrate charges , no one said you couldn't do that (and thus there's no need to ask whether you can or can not do that)

Yet you seem so salty about that . . . the convictions will follow when evidence is presented and seeing a lot of evidence has been publicly available your man is . . . stuffed. 

 

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Charges mean absolutely nothing until there's been a conviction in Court .  

 

[pacovl46]

15 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

If Trump gets elected as President again in the next election , would he then become the worst President and the second worst President ?

He won’t get re-elected. 

[HappyExpat57]

11 hours ago, observer90210 said:

No problem if it's the law etc etc etc.

But what about all the scandals on the Biden and his clan ?

Not to mention that after each attack against Trump from the system,  his popularity soars in the polls and earns him more supporters.

No, that popularity nonsense was recently debunked. That's Fox NOT-news rhetoric. Ya boy'z going DOWN.

[HappyExpat57]

3 hours ago, TimeMachine said:

There's a new Obama in town. Looks like he's the obvious choice.  Speaks well,  energetic,  shows some great reasoning skills. 

Will he be president? No chance.  But then again,  i thought that about Obama. If Trump is not trustable and Biden not at all capable,  I cant see anybody else except ChatGPT for President. 

There is a STRONG argument about the value of AI taking over. Skynet could be only a few years away!

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Weren't you saying "Lock her up" in 2016?

 

If not, were you complaining when Trump said it?

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

[Danderman123]

https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-indictment-fake-electors/

 

It looks like 3 of Trump's co-defendants are flipping.

 

 

[Tug]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

I wouldn’t wish that if I were you it would even affect country’s in the southern hemisphere it would affect the economy of the entire world and not in a good way not to mention the death of democracy in the United States 

[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

Let's recap the bidding:

 

Trump tried to illegally overturn the 2020 election, including inciting a riot at the US Capitol, where people died.

 

Trump encouraged fake electors to send counterfeit Elector forms to the US government, claiming they were the real electors. 

 

Trump tried to pressure the Georgia SoS to "find" enough votes for Trump to win.

 

Trump took 100s of classified documents to his hotel and tried to hide them from the FBI, despite a subpoena.

 

Shall I continue?

 

[rudi49jr]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

So you hate the haters because they go after Trump out of spite, and that’s because you want Trump to win, so he can go after the haters, out of spite. How very grown-up of you.

 

And you didn’t used to want him to stand again? You’ve been going to bat for Trump and fought tooth and nail to defend him since day one, so who do you think you’re fooling?

[Danderman123]

How this is going to end (most probable scenario):

 

Trump may be convicted in some cases before the election, but will file appeals so he won't be in jail in November 2024.

 

Trump will lose the election (barring economic collapse, Biden health problems, or alien invasion).

 

Then Trump will work through his legal problems, with diminishing interest among his cult members. 

[Danderman123]

Not many Trump fans will ever say "I was wrong about Trump" once he is off the scene.

 

Same with the Nixon fans back in the day. They just died off, and there were no new Nixon fans, so now everyone knows he was a crook.

 

But Nixon was a giant compared with Trump.

[SunnyinBangrak]

26 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

Well said. I also didnt want him to run until this insane persecution kicked into top gear. The left have ended democracy in the USA imo, due to their believing of 7 years of conspiracies and hoaxes.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well said. I also didnt want him to run until this insane persecution kicked into top gear. The left have ended democracy in the USA imo, due to their believing of 7 years of conspiracies and hoaxes.

Well said. I also didn't want him to run

 

I can't believe you said that with a straight face Clarence.............oh wait

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Let's recap the bidding:

 

Trump tried to illegally overturn the 2020 election, including inciting a riot at the US Capitol, where people died.

 

Trump encouraged fake electors to send counterfeit Elector forms to the US government, claiming they were the real electors. 

 

Trump tried to pressure the Georgia SoS to "find" enough votes for Trump to win.

 

Trump took 100s of classified documents to his hotel and tried to hide them from the FBI, despite a subpoena.

 

Shall I continue?

 

Why bother having a trial when you obviously know he is guilty?

Ever heard of innocent till PROVEN guilty?

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why bother having a trial when you obviously know he is guilty?

Ever heard of innocent till PROVEN guilty?

Ever heard of "Lock her up"?

[SunnyinBangrak]

24 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Let's recap the bidding:

 

Trump tried to illegally overturn the 2020 election, including inciting a riot at the US Capitol, where people died.

 

Trump encouraged fake electors to send counterfeit Elector forms to the US government, claiming they were the real electors. 

 

Trump tried to pressure the Georgia SoS to "find" enough votes for Trump to win.

 

Trump took 100s of classified documents to his hotel and tried to hide them from the FBI, despite a subpoena.

 

Shall I continue?

 

Absolutely false from start to finish.

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Absolutely false from start to finish.

Okay, tell us which of these alleged facts are false?

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why bother having a trial when you obviously know he is guilty?

Ever heard of innocent till PROVEN guilty?

Why are you so interested when you don’t have a pony in the race?as far as innocent till proven guilty have you been paying attention?the docs obstructing intimidating witnesses the fake electors the attempted fraud / theft of the election in Georgia same for New Mexico Arizona Nevada he’s up to 91 felonies 2 impeachments !ah well you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink ehhh

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ever heard of "Lock her up"?

After he was elected did he try to do so? Most would recognise that as obvious electioneering BS, IMO.

[pomchop]

Wow i woke up today and found that i was back to my high school weight of 160 lbs and was now 6'4" tall ....then i woke up some more and found that it was all a dream. 

 

But i knew if i just told everyone those stats that there would be a few people that believe anything they are told...heck maybe i can get some of them to send me $$ even though i am really really really rich....oh and why would a billionaire need a bail bondsman to cover a measly little 200 k bond....that is pocket change for us really really rich guys...is it possible that the emperor tells a lot of porkies?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Okay, tell us which of these alleged facts are false?

All those unproven in a court of law are just allegations.

[pomchop]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

After he was elected did he try to do so? Most would recognise that as obvious electioneering BS, IMO.

have u ever watched any trump rallies while he was POTUS...it was not unusaal at all for him to incite the crowds who loved to yell lock her up...and then it was lock hunter biden up which continues to this day...did you ever one time see trump say to crowd stop it? 

 

.before u lock people up u need to name the crime they supposedly committed and then present some real evidence, not deep state conspricary theory, then a grand jury will vote as to whether or not they believe there is probably cause a crime was indeed committed and then issue an indictment and then after all of that it will go to trial which is nearly always tilted favorably toward the defendent...that is why the jury must vote UNANIMOUS to convict...not 51% or a majority....every single juror has to vote guilty or the defendant walks away free...remember the OJ crime?  republicans really need to brush up on the legal system and how it all works and stop screaming witch hunt and lock her up and all that garbage that they have been going on about for years....

[Walker88]

19 hours ago, DaiHard said:

The guy stole highly classified documents that could jeopardize US security and certainly could endanger clandestine assets. You mean Biden right?

Whataboutism is a sign of failure. You fail.

 

Perhaps the differences in trump vs Biden?pence are too 'subtle' for your cultish hive mind, but the latter two inadvertently had docs, and upon discovery fully cooperated with authorities to have them removed.

 

In contrast, trump purposely stole TS/SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD docs. He claimed both that he 'declassified with his mind (sic)' and also that the FBI 'planted them'. As a cultist, I suspect you believe both of those diametrically opposed claims. Additionally, trump lied to the FBI about returning the docs.

 

Perhaps you are unaware of the procedure, but declassification requires agency head vetting and approval, and a paper trail signed off as every stage by the White House Counsel. None of that was done.

 

As a cultist, perhaps you can explain why a country club owner and wedding planner needs all of those highly classified docs? Oh, and whatever excuse you try to spew out, not even a POTUS has ther authority to declassify RD docs. Only the Dept of Energy can do that.

[Walker88]

18 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All those unproven in a court of law are just allegations.

And alleged serial killer Ted Bundy was just speed-dating.

 

Funny how allegations---the core of any criminal prosecution---get proven in court. While awaiting the trial, the alleged perp is considered a suspect, and if the alleged crimes are egregious enough, he is jailed.

 

The classified docs case is so egregious, ANYONE else would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. trump's lies---this is already a fact, as he claimed he returned everything, and then the warranted search revealed he had not---would be the kicker that should have jailed him.

 

The bloated one is being handled with kid gloves, when---of course---he had no problem chanting at each of his Hate-ins, "Lock Her Up !"

[observer90210]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No, that popularity nonsense was recently debunked. That's Fox NOT-news rhetoric. Ya boy'z going DOWN.

The proper lexical if you want to be smart is "populist" (and not popularity).

[bendejo]

So him giving a fake weight amount could get him busted for giving false info on a gov't document, right?

More fraud, what?

 

[HappyExpat57]

57 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

You have a valid point about Hillary. I retired as a US gubment IT guy, I maintained the EXACT same type of email server she used. What she did was black and white illegal and it should have disqualified her from every holding public office again.

 

However, we HAVE to start SOMEWHERE for holding people accountable. What 45 has done is so far past any grey area - he's gonna go down. You wonder why it took so long for indictments to happen? I firmly believe Merrick Garland was intentionally slow walking this in the hopes it would just go away. Then the January 6th committee did their thing and shined a brilliant white light on 45, to the point DOJ could no longer ignore his transgressions.

 

45 will never sit in the oval office again. Haters' hate is justifiable. His entire life has been immoral, now inarguably illegal, and he is now backed into a corner of his own making. He will never sit in the oval office again.

[Walker88]

The attempt by the Land Whale with the 55" waist and bigger-than-a-Kardashian tush to look menacing is so ludicrous, it makes Pee Wee Herman look like the Terminator.

[HappyExpat57]

7 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

The proper lexical if you want to be smart is "populist" (and not popularity).

Hey, I'm just working with what I'm given.