Trump surrenders for historic fourth arrest

[rudi49jr]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its not clear at 

They didn't face trails because they all died .

Hitler, Bin Laden and Epstein all died before they could face trial for their alleged crimes .

   How does that relate to Trump being arrested and facing a trial  ?

   They didn't have a trial because they died, rather than them not doing anything wrong 

 

“rather than them not doing anything wrong”

 

I find it quite astonishing, not to mention deeply worrying and disturbing, that someone can say that about Trump, in the face of such an overwhelming amount of evidence.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

“rather than them not doing anything wrong”

 

I find it quite astonishing, not to mention deeply worrying and disturbing, that someone can say that about Trump, in the face of such an overwhelming amount of evidence.

I was saying that about Bin Laden, Hitler and Epstein , its quite clear if you read the whole sentence rather than just taking a few words out the full sentence 

 

 "They didn't have a trial because they died, rather than them not doing anything wrong "

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I believe you have previously stated that the 91 charges against Trump were bogus because witchhunt.

I think I used the "witchunt" word but not "bogus" (although probably also true in most cases).

 

But feel free to show me this elusive post that I apparently made.

[rudi49jr]

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I was saying that about Bin Laden, Hitler and Epstein , its quite clear if you read the whole sentence rather than just taking a few words out the full sentence 

 

 "They didn't have a trial because they died, rather than them not doing anything wrong "

Ah, my bad.

[newnative]

2 hours ago, Peabody said:

Exactly.

Reminds me of why the vilification, without charges or trial, was so wrong for Adolf H. Responsible for the murder of millions? Where's the trial and conviction??

I, myself, adore sarcasm but one does use it at one's risk on this forum.   As you are seeing.   But, kudos for a great post!  Now I shall let you get back to your explaining to Nick.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, newnative said:

I, myself, adore sarcasm but one does use it at one's risk on this forum.   As you are seeing.   But, kudos for a great post!  Now I shall let you get back to your explaining to Nick.

Could you explain to me what he was trying to say ?

[Peabody]

6 minutes ago, newnative said:

I, myself, adore sarcasm but one does use it at one's risk on this forum.   As you are seeing.   But, kudos for a great post!  Now I shall let you get back to your explaining to Nick.

He  is "not clear" on multiple threads, so perhaps it is a congenital condition

[newnative]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Could you explain to me what he was trying to say ?

    Umm, he wasn't 'trying' to say something.  He did say something, in an entertaining and intelligent way, using a form of expression called sarcasm.   Google it and it will be the thing you learn for today.

[xylophone]

5 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The Cult of the Absurd

 

You either see it for what it is, or you are a part of it.

 

Anyone who knows the schtick of trump's mentor Roy Cohn, and who has any sort of adult perception, knows what trump's intent is in whatever scam trump tries to pull off and in whatever statement he makes. His goobers, however, twist themselves into not just a pretzel, but a Mobius Strip. They excuse or offer an absurd explanation for all trump's criminal activity, and when confronted with too many facts, go back to the beginning and start over again.

 

trump called his goobers to come to DC on 6 January 2021 saying "It'll be wild !" Why would a pro forma certification, which had been without incident dozens of times in US history, be "wild"? Why did trump hold a rally on the Mall, within walking distance of the Capitol, tell his goobers to 'march to the Capitol', speak of 'Pence doing the right thing', say "peacefully" one time (as Roy Cohn would have taught him), but say "fight" 20 times in the same speech (fight for what?)?  Why did trump pull the metal detectors when informed some of his goobers were likely armed, saying "they won't hurt me". Apparently it was okay if they marched to the Capitol, possibly armed, to hurt others.

 

No non-cultist believes that when trump called GA SecState Raffensperger and told him to "just find me 11.780 votes", that trump meant anything less than "cheat for me". There is no other possible explanation, since as Raffensperger explained to trump, recounts and investigations found nothing untoward.

 

No rational adult believes trump "declassified with his mind" the documents he stole from the WH, and by now all should have read that there is an actual, formal procedure for declassification that leaves a paper trail (which in trump's case does not exist). Still, some cultists believe both that trump's mind declassified AND the FBI planted them.

 

No rational adult believes trump did not have an affair with Stormy Daniels and then order Michael Cohen to pay her off. Cultists seem to believe Cohen took the initiative on his own, and for no reason that he wanted to contribute to Stormy's retirement fund..

 

trump cultists are losers. They have lived their entire life as losers. trump came along and for the first time in their mediocre lives trump told them they weren't losers and that their lack of success is others' fault. They NEED to believe that, so they need trump to stick around. They convince themselves trump loves America because he dry humps the flag, when in reality his pure self-interest is 100% transparent (trump had to ask CoS Kelly what the USS Arizona was, so ignorant is trump of history and sacrifice.) They cannot accept trump is a conman, liar, traitor to US democracy, a thief, a sex offender (convicted), a charity fraudster (convicted), because that would mean all he has told them about failure not being their fault is a lie.

 

Cult leaders find a weakness in, and a hook into, their followers. They exploit the needs and the weaknesses. They deliver promises that are always coming, but never actually come....but cultists have to continue to believe and wait. They cannot give up the dream, or fantasy of finally being something.

 

Brilliant post @Walker88, many thanks from a level-headed non cult poster! ????

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Umm, he wasn't 'trying' to say something.  He did say something, in an entertaining and intelligent way, using a form of expression called sarcasm.   Google it and it will be the thing you learn for today.

Oh I see, he wasn't trying to make any point at all . 

*Trump hasn't been found guilty in a Court of law* .

*Some people who have committed crimes died before they went to Court .*

   I was trying to work out what the connection between the two statements was ( And I wont even attempt to work out where the sarcasm is supposed to be)

 

[newnative]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Oh I see, he wasn't trying to make any point at all . 

*Trump hasn't been found guilty in a Court of law* .

*Some people who have committed crimes died before they went to Court .*

   I was trying to work out what the connection between the two statements was ( And I wont even attempt to work out where the sarcasm is supposed to be)

 

   No, I'm afraid you don't 'see' at all--he made a perfectly wonderful' point'.   And, apparently you are not inclined to learn your one new thing each day.   At this point I shall bow out of our discourse as I have nothing more to add.

[Danderman123]

46 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Oh I see, he wasn't trying to make any point at all . 

*Trump hasn't been found guilty in a Court of law* .

*Some people who have committed crimes died before they went to Court .*

   I was trying to work out what the connection between the two statements was ( And I wont even attempt to work out where the sarcasm is supposed to be)

 

I will type slowly so you understand.

 

Sometimes trials are not necessary for history and/or popular opinion to consider someone guilty. To wit:

 

Hitler

Osama Bin Laden

Donald Trump

 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I will type slowly so you understand.

 

Sometimes trials are not necessary for history and/or popular opinion to consider someone guilty. To wit:

 

Hitler

Osama Bin Laden

Donald Trump

 

Oh I see , what he was trying to say was that just because Trump hasn't  been found guilty in a Court of law , that doesn't necessarily mean that hes innocent of all charges .

   He should have used people who have avoided justice , rather than those who died before  being taken to Court to face justice .

   It would have been more easier to understand had he used Jimmy Savile as an example, rather than Hitler .

  Actually, it would have been much easier if he would have just said  *just because Trump hasn't  been found guilty in a Court of law , that doesn't necessarily mean that he's innocent of all charges*

   Well done all, we got there in the end

[johnnybangkok]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Oh I see , what he was trying to say was that just because Trump hasn't  been found guilty in a Court of law , that doesn't necessarily mean that hes innocent of all charges .

   He should have used people who have avoided justice , rather than those who died before  being taken to Court to face justice .

   It would have been more easier to understand had he used Jimmy Savile as an example, rather than Hitler .

  Actually, it would have been much easier if he would have just said  *just because Trump hasn't  been found guilty in a Court of law , that doesn't necessarily mean that he's innocent of all charges*

   Well done all, we got there in the end

We all got there at the beginning. It was just you that struggled.

[Nick Carter icp]

35 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

We all got there at the beginning. It was just you that struggled.

No you didn't , no one could explain it initially because it didn't make any sense , Seems like he just wanted to say Trumps name and add a few unsavoury characters to the list , lump Trump in with Hitler/Bin Laden and Epstein 

[Jingthing]

An entertaining refresher on how the greatest grifter ended up at the Atlanta jail.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I was saying that about Bin Laden, Hitler and Epstein , its quite clear if you read the whole sentence rather than just taking a few words out the full sentence 

 

 "They didn't have a trial because they died, rather than them not doing anything wrong "

So, were Trump to die suddenly, then he's fair game? An interesting reversal on the old saying which yields De mortis nihil nisi malum ([Speak} nothing but ill of the dead)

[Danderman123]

Trump posted his "irrefutable proof" that the 2020 Georgia election was stolen.

 

Spoiler: its so weak that not even the most crazy MAGA type will talk about it.

 

After a year of research, they found 36 dubious votes. Not 11,780.

[Danderman123]

On 8/25/2023 at 9:34 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pure tyranny. I wonder whether anyone cheering the weaponization of the justice sytem is basing their sheer loathing of the man - and justification for this unprecedented coordinated attack on an ex Pres - on facts, rather than a well crafted narrative that paints him as an immoral and corrupt psychopath? Somehow I doubt it. 

Do you believe that the 2020 Georgia election was stolen from Trump?

 

A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

If yes, what proof can you offer?

Edited August 31, 2023 by Danderman123

[ozimoron]

On 8/28/2023 at 12:06 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Substitute biden for Trump and I'll agree with that.

I wish the republicans would bring impeachment charges. The result wouldn't be a good look for MAGA.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/28/2023 at 8:48 PM, xylophone said:

Brilliant post @Walker88, many thanks from a level-headed non cult poster! ????

Perhaps he belongs to the "I hate Trump" cult, which has a number of members that post on here.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you believe that the 2020 Georgia election was stolen from Trump?

 

A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

If yes, what proof can you offer?

Can you prove it wasn't? I won't ask you if you believe it wasn't, as you obviously believe it wasn't.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/28/2023 at 9:42 PM, Danderman123 said:

I will type slowly so you understand.

 

Sometimes trials are not necessary for history and/or popular opinion to consider someone guilty. To wit:

 

Hitler

Osama Bin Laden

Donald Trump

 

How many people's deaths was Trump responsible for then, if you want to lump him in with mass murderers?

What country did he invade?

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you prove it wasn't? I won't ask you if you believe it wasn't, as you obviously believe it wasn't.

60 + court cases proved it wasn't

[rudi49jr]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you prove it wasn't? I won't ask you if you believe it wasn't, as you obviously believe it wasn't.

If you, or anybody else, can not prove that it was stolen, us normal people are just going to have to assume that it wasn’t, won’t we?

 

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps he belongs to the "I hate Trump" cult, which has a number of members that post on here.

I will admit that I hate Trump. But not just Trump, I hate everyone like him. And I hate them because they’re narcissistic, power hungry, petty, vindictive, selfish, fascist, white supremacist, racist, sexist and very dangerous, because they will stop at nothing to reach their goals. They don’t give a flying **** about their country, they’re not patriots, all they care about is their fragile ego and their bank account.

Edited August 31, 2023 by rudi49jr

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps he belongs to the "I hate Trump" cult, which has a number of members that post on here.

You need to get your definition of what a cult is, here is a lady that managed to leave the Trump cult but it cost her 60 days in jail and 36 months probation.

 

Pamela Hemphill pled guilty to demonstrating in a Capitol building. In May 2022, she was sentenced to 60 days in jail and 36 months' probation. In 2023, Trump publicly claimed her sentence was harsh. In response, she tweeted: "I pleaded guilty because I was guilty!" She told reporters: "It's a struggle trying to get away from gaslighting, Trump's narcissism and all the tactics they use... It was scary to leave the cult."

[Danderman123]

30 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you prove it wasn't? I won't ask you if you believe it wasn't, as you obviously believe it wasn't.

I dunno.

 

2 hand recounts. Lots of other checks.

 

Trump's own people could only find 36 dubious votes after a year of research.

 

Rudy Guiliani admitted he lied about election workers.

 

What have you got?

 

Let me guess: you have a feeling it was stolen.

 

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps he belongs to the "I hate Trump" cult, which has a number of members that post on here.

I'm one of them. Definitely the most vile person on Earth after Hitler, Saddam Hussein and Pol Pot.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you prove it wasn't? I won't ask you if you believe it wasn't, as you obviously believe it wasn't.

Can you prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist?  It's difficult to prove a non-existence.

 

In the US one must prove a crime was committed, not that it was not committed.  How does it work in your country?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How many people's deaths was Trump responsible for then, if you want to lump him in with mass murderers?

What country did he invade?

 

You've got a fairly low standard there:

 

"Vote for Trump. He's not a mass murderer."