Is FireFox now realy the worst browser ever?

[BenStark]

I used to like Firefox about a decade ago, when Google still supported the developing team.

 

Then Google stepped back, and Yahoo stepped in, which was the day FF started to deteriorate at a fast pace.

 

Not really a surprise, because everything Yahoo has ever touched has turned in a disaster.

 

These days, using Firefox means "this page has crashed" 15 times a day is not an exception.

 

But what bothers me the most is that while you are writing anything, be it an email, a post on AN, or whatever else online, and you type a bit fast, you can expect the browser to reload a few times before you have completed your email or post.

 

First I thought it had something to do with the webpage, and when I discovered it happened on many webpages, I started to suspect it was a poor quality wireless keyboard. I even destroyed one for that reason.

 

Until I started to use other browsers, like Chrome and Edge, and then those pages never reloaded any more, so it must have to do with the browser.

 

I still use Firefox, because I like the layout, probably because after all those years I got familiar with it, but I hate when I have to restart writing an email or AN post 3 times, because the page reloads.

 

Rant over.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

You are correct.

I used Mozilla.

 

Which turned into Firefox.

The only advantage to Firefox (for me) over other browsers was MULTITABs

 

Now, Firefox has become GARBAGE.

 

A decade ago, I used both CHROMIUM AND CHROME, Chromium being open-source.

 

I stopped using Chromium when I started using Linux less.

 

These days, it's nothing but Chrome for me.

I can open about 100 tabs without it crashing.

And, it integrates very well with Google Meet, Docs, Sheets, etc.

 

Chrome can save my passwords, quite well.

 

WHY Oh WHY would I use Firefox.

Also, Firefox has always had a stupid name, and I hated them for getting rid of the name Mozilla.

 

I have an old computer with 16 GB of DDR3 Ram which is too slow and too lousy for me.

 

Maybe soon, I will buy a reasonably priced i5+MoBo Combo, and 64 GB of DDR4.

 

Why?

a. More Tabs, of course.

b. I can also use part of the 64 GB to create a RAMDISK and work SUPER FAST.  No more THRASHING of read/writes to SSD or HDD, and this means that my internet experience will be much improved.

c. I will also be able to post more Topics on TV if I have 1000 tabs open, simultaneously.

 

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[still kicking]

Edge Is useless it crashes on me every day many times I used Firefox before and I am thinking changing back

Edited September 11, 2023 by still kicking

[Keep Right]

Interesting, I have never had any problem with Firefox. I use Firefox mainly because it is not Google which I hate with a passion.

[still kicking]

2 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting, I have never had any problem with Firefox. I use Firefox mainly because it is not Google which I hate with a passion.

I had Firefox for many years only switched to a different browser because I had probs with Facebook but still have the same problems so I might switch back 

[ukrules]

I use Firefox as my main browser and it mostly works just fine for me.

[still kicking]

4 minutes ago, ukrules said:

I use Firefox as my main browser and it mostly works just fine for me.

Nothing wrong with Firefox 

[Damrongsak]

Firefox works for me.  I was on Windows 7, now 10.

[fusion58]

1 hour ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting, I have never had any problem with Firefox. I use Firefox mainly because it is not Google which I hate with a passion.

Same.

 

I’ve been a loyalist since the Netscape days.

 

I run a number of script and ad blocking extensions, which can sometimes slow me down when I need to white list sites, but I can use Chrome and Opera as backups if I have any problems.

[treetops]

3 hours ago, BenStark said:

These days, using Firefox means "this page has crashed" 15 times a day is not an exception.

 

But what bothers me the most is that while you are writing anything, be it an email, a post on AN, or whatever else online, and you type a bit fast, you can expect the browser to reload a few times before you have completed your email or post.

I've been using Firefox for longer than I care to remember and never experienced anything like that.

[eisfeld]

3 hours ago, BenStark said:

I used to like Firefox about a decade ago, when Google still supported the developing team.

 

Then Google stepped back, and Yahoo stepped in, which was the day FF started to deteriorate at a fast pace.

Google never supported the developing team. They had a sponsor deal with the Mozilla Corporation. They then had a period where Yahoo! was the sponsor for the default search engine placement but have since reverted to selling that to Google again. None of this has anything to do with the development of the browser though.

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Never had such issues in daily use of firefix, The only thing that really sucks with FF is when one tries to log in the FF account with a different computer and it's a real mess to recover the memorised usernames/passwords.

[TimeMachine]

Edge and chrome now looking more like each other than ever before. These are the only two I need to have on my PC. I like to have cleanest minimal Install. Anyway, everybody using phones only mostly now. Surely Microsoft gotta get back into that market. 

[Enoon]

3 hours ago, BenStark said:

I used to like Firefox about a decade ago, when Google still supported the developing team.

 

Then Google stepped back, and Yahoo stepped in, which was the day FF started to deteriorate at a fast pace.

 

Not really a surprise, because everything Yahoo has ever touched has turned in a disaster.

 

These days, using Firefox means "this page has crashed" 15 times a day is not an exception.

 

But what bothers me the most is that while you are writing anything, be it an email, a post on AN, or whatever else online, and you type a bit fast, you can expect the browser to reload a few times before you have completed your email or post.

 

First I thought it had something to do with the webpage, and when I discovered it happened on many webpages, I started to suspect it was a poor quality wireless keyboard. I even destroyed one for that reason.

 

Until I started to use other browsers, like Chrome and Edge, and then those pages never reloaded any more, so it must have to do with the browser.

 

I still use Firefox, because I like the layout, probably because after all those years I got familiar with it, but I hate when I have to restart writing an email or AN post 3 times, because the page reloads.

 

Rant over.

 

 

 

It's not Firefox.....it's you.

 

 

[heybuz]

I use firefox on my chinese rom phone and somehow by accident since the chinese gov banned google i still can access all of google except play store, "maps gmail operate normally through firefox don't ask how I'm no expert.".

[ChipButty]

I have been using Brave for a while, no problems

[TheAppletons]

Just now, ChipButty said:

I have been using Brave for a while, no problems

^^ This is the way.

[Red Phoenix]

I never have problems with Firefox, and it is my favorite browser as I like the set-up/lay-out.  Also FireFox has the Add-Ons/extensions feature which allows with a simple click to integrate thousands of applications in the browser, without having to install them (e.g. AdBlock, Ghostery, download managers, VPN, etc.). 

[JayClay]

38 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Also FireFox has the Add-Ons/extensions feature which allows with a simple click to integrate thousands of applications in the browser, without having to install them (e.g. AdBlock, Ghostery, download managers, VPN, etc.)

I too like Firefox, but the above is not a feature unique to FF.

[Ralf001]

7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You are correct.

I used Mozilla.

 

Which turned into Firefox.

The only advantage to Firefox (for me) over other browsers was MULTITABs

 

Now, Firefox has become GARBAGE.

 

A decade ago, I used both CHROMIUM AND CHROME, Chromium being open-source.

 

I stopped using Chromium when I started using Linux less.

 

These days, it's nothing but Chrome for me.

I can open about 100 tabs without it crashing.

And, it integrates very well with Google Meet, Docs, Sheets, etc.

 

Chrome can save my passwords, quite well.

 

WHY Oh WHY would I use Firefox.

Also, Firefox has always had a stupid name, and I hated them for getting rid of the name Mozilla.

 

I have an old computer with 16 GB of DDR3 Ram which is too slow and too lousy for me.

 

Maybe soon, I will buy a reasonably priced i5+MoBo Combo, and 64 GB of DDR4.

 

Why?

a. More Tabs, of course.

b. I can also use part of the 64 GB to create a RAMDISK and work SUPER FAST.  No more THRASHING of read/writes to SSD or HDD, and this means that my internet experience will be much improved.

c. I will also be able to post more Topics on TV if I have 1000 tabs open, simultaneously.

 

 

The company is called Mozilla, their web browser called Firefox.

Initial release of the browser was called Mozilla Firefox later shortened to just Firefox.

[steven100]

I use Waterfox ..... it is suppose to be faster than FF and lighter on CPU. 

I run 5 add-ons including Faster Pageload,   yesterday I did some more tweaks in  about:config  and it did speed loading time up slightly. 

 

I'm still trying to get it even faster as it can lag or have a delay in response when clicking on a website.

 

Does anyone else here use it ?  what do you think of it?

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by steven100

[oxo1947]

FireFox--its great I have been using it from the start nearly 20 years ago---if you didn't have programs like this--then you would be paying Microsoft etc a free for using there ones.

 

Free Programs like FireFox must really annoy them. & their (FF) anti spam and tracking programs--are all free-- like "Privacy Badger" stops tracking dead especially from Facebook--- The picket fence.....Nothing comes out of Facebook (the biggest tracker) when that kicks in.  So many talented programmers put what they have  it out on FF first for the feedback. Pay nothing--but if you like send a few $$ to him--but up to you.         My Favorite is their Geotool that just sit in your URL as a little flag showing you where ever the site is transmitting from----I was going to import some things form Vietnam, a French guy there (who lived there????)  would be sending them to me in Thailand--however the FireFox flag said it was always transmitting from Nebraska server , touch the flag and it goes directly to the town where the server was. --so I didn't become the import King I thought I was going to be.

 

Want a free free-er  Internet ?  FireFox is just another one of those small steps in keeping what you have that way.

 

 

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2004

Firefox 1.0 was released in 2004 and became a big success — in less than a year, it was downloaded over 100 million times. New versions of Firefox have come out regularly since then and keep setting new records.            "The popularity of Firefox has helped bring choice back to users."

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

8 hours ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting, I have never had any problem with Firefox. I use Firefox mainly because it is not Google which I hate with a passion.

I never have any issues with FF either.

 

I love Google programming tools. I use Dart / Flutter a lot for coding. Open source, free and supported by the largest software company in the business. Google have simply taken down the proprietary business model of Apple and Microsoft when it comes to software.

[BenStark]

Glad you are all so happy with FF, and never have issues, though I think the comments have more to do with the nature of this forum, where it seems to be a "must" to always go against everything posted.

 

Some better informed people have a different opinion though.

 

https://levelup.gitconnected.com/why-firefox-deserves-its-sad-decline-1c44d9ba59c9

[freeworld]

Never have any problem with Firefox on windows 10/11 or linux.

[KhunBENQ]

Have three browsers in use on the PC. FF used mainly, Chrome and Brave occasionally. Can't remember last time that one of them crashed.

Now on mobile using Chrome just for being lazy to install anything else.

Edited September 12, 2023 by KhunBENQ

[mstevens]

Use Firefox on my Mac, always update it to the latest version and no issues with it whatsoever!

[NONG CHOK]

I've tried them all but they have things that I don't really like. About 2 years ago I changed to Brave, I also use a Duckduckgo extension. So far all's good not one problem.

[Gottfrid]

This is really simple. I work online for a living. The people here that make statements about Edge and Firefox crashing are just persons that are doing the wrong things and cannot use a computer nor a browser. With a stable system and updated software, they all work fine both for surfing, as well as logging in and working.

 

I am using Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Opera, Maxton, Vivaldi and Brave. None of them are crashing and they all work rather good. Some has limitations, but they do NOT crash or break down/stop working. That is entirely the human factor that is to blame. In other words. The USER!

[Hamus Yaigh]

Firefox has always been my main browser, it is so configurable to my requirements and today it runs so well. Brave crashed on my Win11 so thats gone - same happened to Opera - gone also and won't go back to either.

 

For ease of use Chrome and Edge are very slick on Win11, but I just use them when I am lazy. Firefox is brilliant.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Hamus Yaigh