ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Woof999]

35 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

I'm not the only one who doesn't take this "fog of war" as true : MSNBC does the same like me : takes distance from any actual official speculation and I also use my healthy mind

 

More to come...

If it was a weapon anything like the one you're describing, those roof tiles would all have been blown to smitherines (the majority of them are still intact and in place), as would those flimsy looking roof structures located very nearby.

[Thorgal]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lying again, here's what it says:

 

The "lying" through Twitter has been confirmed by chief correspondent Alex Thomson from Channel 4 :

 

apparently the Arabic (Gazan) linguistic tone, syntax and idiom used in your footage by both Hamas Operative #1 and #2 was "imported"...

 

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, Thorgal said:

Al Ahli Ma'Madani hospital is the only Christian hospital in Gaza. Many homeless people from Gaza North were sheltering in the neighborhood of the hospital.

 

◾️Israeli Channel 12 admits it was an Israeli airstrike on the Al-Alhi hospital!

◾️Ohad Hemo, Israeli TV's Palestinian Affairs reporter, admits Israel is responsible for last night's bombing of the Baptist Hospital in Gaza resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties.

 

 

These two Israelis are not officials in the government. They are commenting on breaking news, and they have no special insight into the explosion.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Lol, that's not the same small mark you called a crater in your previous post. 

 

What does it tell you when someone continues to make self inconstant claims? Does he believe them? 

 

[Danderman123]

This video shows the launch of rockets from Gaza, followed by the impact at the hospital:

 

 

Pretty clear now that Israel did not hit the hospital.

[Danderman123]

and there's more video:

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Danderman123

[Jeff the Chef]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Whats the small name for Richard Chef.

Sir or your Magnificence to you.

[Jeff the Chef]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Here we go big letters in Bold print.

1000's of people being killed and maimed and your worried about a bit of Bold print, my faith in this world sinks lower and lower. Try giving your head a good shake.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

Your footage dates from 7th of August 2022.

 

That smart girl here below got a screen shot on het phone as "souvenir"...from 2022...

 

 

You have been conned.

 

This lady claims she has a screengrab from 2022 showing Ariel Kahana's video of the missile misfire. Note that her "2022" screengrab is labeled "X Twitter".

 

"X" is Twitter's new name. It didn't exist in 2022. The screengrab is from late 2023.

 

Ariel Kahana *did* post a tweet about a misfire in 2022, but its not the same video as the "8 second " video being shown in my post.

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

Here is the 8 second misfire video again. It is not the same as the August 6, 2022, which shows a missile that maintained thrust as it veered in the wrong direction.

 

This missile loses thrust and drops onto the hospital parking lot.

 

I'm sure some people may have been killed, but the damage was not widespread.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Danderman123

[Thorgal]

43 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You have been conned.

 

This lady claims she has a screengrab from 2022 showing Ariel Kahana's video of the missile misfire. Note that her "2022" screengrab is labeled "X Twitter".

 

"X" is Twitter's new name. It didn't exist in 2022. The screengrab is from late 2023.

 

Ariel Kahana *did* post a tweet about a misfire in 2022, but its not the same video as the "8 second " video being shown in my post.

 

 

Her screenshot picture properties can be seen at 15:00 seconds of the clip. Her screenshot is genuine from 6th of August 2022.

 

She used the search function based on a picture and found the screenshot in different apps : Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, etc...

 

Case closed.

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, Thorgal said:

I'm not the only one who doesn't take this "fog of war" as true : MSNBC does the same like me : takes distance from any actual official speculation and I also use my healthy mind

 

More to come...

More initial reports by those who were not at the scene and had zero information aside from the rantings of Hamas. 

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, Thorgal said:

My doubts raised when I heard the whistling noise in the footage, which isn't a propulsor rocket with motor from Hamas/Islamic Jihad, but a smart bomb.

Says you, what military experience in the field do you have on this claim?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

8 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Dude, I'm neutral in this conflict and want to hear both sides of the story

This is a very serious issue, no call to attempt comedy 

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

The "lying" through Twitter has been confirmed by chief correspondent Alex Thomson from Channel 4 :

 

apparently the Arabic (Gazan) linguistic tone, syntax and idiom used in your footage by both Hamas Operative #1 and #2 was "imported"...

 

 

 

 

Instead of admitting your previous false statements on where the rocket launcher was placed and how far away ie 25 meters you deflect...........again

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

Al Ahli (Ma'Madani) Baptist Church hospital and church depend structurally (financially) on the Evangelical Church in Jerusalem and both are actually under the civil protection of Israel

 

The Al Ahli hospital and Church have been called/warned 3 times prior to the bombing to evacuate by their superiors or Diocese  in Jerusalem :

 

note : Anatoly Viktorov, ambassador of Russia in Israel said this Hospital was bombed earlier by IDF :

 

https://tass.com/politics/1692841

 

That tweet is not from the Evangelist Church in Jerusalem but from Qatar news media. 

 

Your link to Tass the Kremlin sponsored propaganda outfit is laughable

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Thorgal said:

Her screenshot picture properties can be seen at 15:00 seconds of the clip. Her screenshot is genuine from 6th of August 2022.

 

She used the search function based on a picture and found the screenshot in different apps : Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, etc...

 

Case closed.

Please provide evidence this tik tok wannabe used Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, etc... to verify the video

[Eloquent pilgrim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7T9ZnT-gC4

 

I’m posting this appallingly biased report from antisemite BBC correspondent Jon Donnison. I have just filed a complaint using the BBC’s online complaint procedure which I have pasted below

 

 

“I am writing to complain about Jon Donnison reporting from Gaza claiming the hospital explosion could only have been carried out by an Israeli bomb, without a single shred of evidence; it has subsequently been shown to be very unlikely to have been the cause, but he was determined to blame Israel. He has an anti-Israeli track record as you must well know. In 2012 he posted a photo of an injured girl on a stretcher claiming it was taken in Gaza, describing it as “heart-breaking” adding the words “pain in Gaza” It was later proved to be untrue because the photo was taken in Syria and he was forced to make a very lame apology. He is a proven antisemite, so can you explain why this racist is still working for you. I know I am wasting my time because you will excuse him in some way, compounding my suspicion that the BBC is institutionally antisemitic”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, Thorgal said:

The crater proves that there was no misfire. The crater proves instead a high altitude impact and detonation.

 

The rocket launcher was positioned at the cemetery on the right side of the hospital. I used this map to have an approximative distance estimate.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-lack-of-crater-at-hospital-blast-site-proves-it-wasnt-behind-strike/

 

Ownership of the launcher, the rocket or the operation is not relevant. It's possible that the ownership of the telephone call is "coded".

 

 

That's hilarious. Note the sink-hole's proximity to the man-hole. 

 

 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Thorgal said:

The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater).

There is no crater..................🤣

[transam]

Very good explanation regarding the hospital "bombing", with screenshots etc, that even Hamas supporters here 'may' understand and stand down...........😋

I bet they don't watch it, will spoil their agenda............😝

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

Her screenshot picture properties can be seen at 15:00 seconds of the clip. Her screenshot is genuine from 6th of August 2022.

 

She used the search function based on a picture and found the screenshot in different apps : Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, etc...

 

Case closed.

The August 6, 2022 video this lady is talking about has nothing to do with the live Al Jazeera video showing a failed rocket hitting the hospital parking lot.

 

Note that the hospital itself was not hit.

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Very good explanation regarding the hospital "bombing", with screenshots etc, that even Hamas supporters here 'may' understand and stand down...........😋

I bet they don't watch it, will spoil their agenda............😝

 

 

 

This is obviously Israeli propaganda. 

 

First, as we all know, Gaza is an open-air prison. Clearly the video was not taken in Gaza.

 

Second, the giant crater in pictures posted by Thorgal, are not visible in the video. 

 

Finally, hamas' linguistic experts have proven the people discussing the bombing are not hamas operatives, but Israeli sympathizers. 

 

[herfiehandbag]

19 minutes ago, transam said:

Very good explanation regarding the hospital "bombing", with screenshots etc, that even Hamas supporters here 'may' understand and stand down...........😋

I bet they don't watch it, will spoil their agenda............😝

 

 

 

That is a very convincing presentation.

 

There is one way to find out what happened. A proper independent forensic investigation carried out under the direction of a third party ( the UN), staffed by investigators from third party neutral countries.

 

That would confirm both the source of the strike, the degree of damage and the number of casualties which resulted.

 

Would the Israeli's agree to that - probably. They will want to clear their name with their allies and with neutral countries. 

 

Will Hamas agree to it?

[Jeff the Chef]

I'm disgusted by the whole scenario of the middle east, human lives are being taken by both Arabs and Israeli's because neither of them has the brains or the inclination to live in peace, neither side will win, and this has gone on since 1948. 

Both sides are disgusting excuses for human beings, religion has a lot to answer for, as does the great western military industrial complex which is loving all this.

Russia and Ukraine and China and Taiwan just the same all wanting to kill one another. 

You'd think after 2 so called World Wars in the last century the human race would have learned something, sadly no, we are such a bunch of sad sacks.

[Neeranam]

Shame on you USA and sleepy Joe. What a message to the world -  no call for a ceasefire and condoning the continued bombing of Gaza.

[Jingthing]

42 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

That is a very convincing presentation.

 

There is one way to find out what happened. A proper independent forensic investigation carried out under the direction of a third party ( the UN), staffed by investigators from third party neutral countries.

 

That would confirm both the source of the strike, the degree of damage and the number of casualties which resulted.

 

Would the Israeli's agree to that - probably. They will want to clear their name with their allies and with neutral countries. 

 

Will Hamas agree to it?

The terrorists are likely altering the scene with Israel missile fragments. Then they will announce that well before any independent inquiry is even possible  It's never going to be known definitely.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Jingthing

[Neeranam]

This war is not against Hamas, it is against the Palestinian people. They are changing the map as we speak, forcing Palestinians out of Gaza. So may war crimes going on here and yet Israel are getting supported by some rogue nations.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

This war is not against Hamas, it is against the Palestinian people. They are changing the map as we speak, forcing Palestinians out of Gaza. So may war crimes going on here and yet Israel are getting supported by some rogue nations.

So it was the Palestinian people that carried out the massacres at the music festival and kibbutzim, not Hamas?

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The terrorists are likely altering the scene with Israel missile fragments. It's never going to be known definitely.

Do you think Israel is an Apartheid state?