The Children of Gaza = More than 7000 Killed.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I merely pointed out an Islamophobic hate post and get attacked. Don't waste your time replying, I won't see. 

 

   You did no such thing, you didn't point out an Islamophobic post and no one attacked you .

You are just attention seeking again 

[Wobblybob]

5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I merely pointed out an Islamophobic hate post and get attacked. Don't waste your time replying, I won't see. 

Oh no, not another one. 😂😂😂

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I merely pointed out an Islamophobic hate post and get attacked. Don't waste your time replying, I won't see. 

🤥 it's growing

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I would agree but if he puts everyone on ignore how will he ever know that anyone pays any attention to him or gives a sh!t about his one sided bigoted and blinkered views?

 

   You watch , if you make a post that he disagrees with, he will disagree with it  by replying to someone else .

   That way, he replies to your point, but can still claim to have you on ignore 

[scottiejohn]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You watch , if you make a post that he disagrees with, he will disagree with it  by replying to someone else .

   That way, he replies to your point, but can still claim to have you on ignore 

He disagrees with everybody's post!

[Morch]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You watch , if you make a post that he disagrees with, he will disagree with it  by replying to someone else .

   That way, he replies to your point, but can still claim to have you on ignore 

 

I think all them people that make a big deal about announcing they 'ignore' posters, actually read the posts anyway (or not really put people on 'ignore' to begin with). Almost all of them have slips from time to time. The way it's structured on this forum, it's a coward's move. It's just used for extra trolling, nothing more.

[ozimoron]

The floggings will continue until morale improves. Really easy to use weasel words to hide his genocidal intent.

 

Israel bombed Gaza on Tuesday after its Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed there won't be peace until its Hamas rulers are destroyed and Palestinian society is "deradicalized".

 

https://www.rawstory.com/israel-p-m-says-no-peace-until-hamas-destroyed/

 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Paul Catton said:

A couple of days prior to the attack we had the Al Aqsa  incident whereby radicals persons of "Judaism" spat upon both Christians and Muslims, and forced entry to the mosque.

 

Ben Gvir, the current National Security Minister, had said it's OK for Jews to spit at Christians.  Couldn't make this up.

 

Ben Gvir in the past justified spitting toward Christians as “an ancient Jewish custom

 

5 arrested for spitting at Christians in Jerusalem; police minister: It's not criminal | The Times of Israel

[Morch]

23 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

Ben Gvir, the current National Security Minister, had said it's OK for Jews to spit at Christians.  Couldn't make this up.

 

Ben Gvir in the past justified spitting toward Christians as “an ancient Jewish custom

 

5 arrested for spitting at Christians in Jerusalem; police minister: It's not criminal | The Times of Israel

 

 

Not to detract from the man's vileness, but your presentation is misleading.

You're highlighting what he said years ago, not what he said now.

[Jeff the Chef]

Religion and Politics the route of all evil in this world.

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

 

Not to detract from the man's vileness, but your presentation is misleading.

You're highlighting what he said years ago, not what he said now.

 

I made it quite clear it was in the past.

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Neeranam

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

I made it quite clear it was in the past.

 

 

Yeah, as said you highlighted what serves your narrative. That's not actually what he said now, though.

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1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

I think all them people that make a big deal about announcing they 'ignore' posters, actually read the posts anyway (or not really put people on 'ignore' to begin with). Almost all of them have slips from time to time. The way it's structured on this forum, it's a coward's move. It's just used for extra trolling, nothing more.

.If someone's posts annoy one too much, then just go ahead and put them on ignore.  There's no need to make an announcement. It's a passive-aggressive tactic. A sad way to get to get in the last word.

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I merely pointed out an Islamophobic hate post and get attacked. Don't waste your time replying, I won't see. 

You won't see anything with the blinkers you keep using!

[scottiejohn]

45 minutes ago, placeholder said:

.If someone's posts annoy one too much, then just go ahead and put them on ignore.  There's no need to make an announcement. It's a passive-aggressive tactic. A sad way to get to get in the last word.

Except for many of the "your on my ignore list"  posters it is not really "A sad way to get to get in the last word." as  most of the "your on my ignore list" idiots don't actually put you on ignore as they are too thick to respond to their so called "ignored list" of ignored members forgetting they have made their "ignore list" declaration public!

 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, ezzra said:

 

Here's a quick lesson about Islam that you, and all your smart ass, know it all posts missing big time:  Islam: The Quran itself preaches violence against nonbelievers, 

Islam is not a religion of peace at all; the perpetrators of terrorism are following the edicts clearly given in the Surahs (verses) that constitute the Quran, their holy book, The word Islam means submission.

 

What other religion other than he Quran dictates repeatedly that its followers must convert you to Islam or kill you if you refuse to convert?

Much of the Quran speaks not about religion but only about how one must submit; it commands how one must live, dress, treat women and slaves, and practice jihad.  "Islam is a religion in which god (Islam's Allah) requires you to send your son to die for him, hence the many so called martyrs who go out to fight with the terrorists,

 

VERSES TELL THE TALE

The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence.

Some examples follow:

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

America and France must wake up and realize that we are at war.

A war that cannot be won by being politically correct, appeasing, ignoring or coddling the enemy.

Islamic terrorists are not going to just go away and leave us alone.

According to the Quran, they must persist until we are either all converted to Islam or killed.

 

CHURCHILL'S WARNING

Winston Churchill understood this problem when he wrote, "How dreadful are the curses which Muhammadism lays on its votaries! … Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in this world."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever the edicts of Islam may be, the vast vast majority never do anything more violent than any other society, including those that proclaim themselves Christian.

Your attempt to portray all Muslims as blood thirsty savages out to kill every non Muslin on the planet is irrelevant and just wrong.

 

In any event, the many people around the world that support Palestinians don't care about their religion. They care that thousands of men women and children are being blown to bits in a completely unfair and inhumane way.

You are never going to change anyone's mind by quoting a book when we can see the destruction and death being wrought on a population completely devoid of any defense against bombing from the air.

 

There is not and never will be any excuse of any sort for bombing over 7,000 children to death in this day and age.

[ezzra]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever the edicts of Islam may be, the vast vast majority never do anything more violent than any other society, including those that proclaim themselves Christian.

Your attempt to portray all Muslims as blood thirsty savages out to kill every non Muslin on the planet is irrelevant and just wrong.

 

In any event, the many people around the world that support Palestinians don't care about their religion. They care that thousands of men women and children are being blown to bits in a completely unfair and inhumane way.

You are never going to change anyone's mind by quoting a book when we can see the destruction and death being wrought on a population completely devoid of any defense against bombing from the air.

 

There is not and never will be any excuse of any sort for bombing over 7,000 children to death in this day and age.

If the Palestinians want to stop being 'blown to bits' as you say, than stop fighting, kick out Hamas, release the hostages

and all will be well, simply put, Israel will NOT continue with their doings when all the above will be met, but as long as Hamas

uses guerrilla war tactics such as popping out of tunnels, using children as fighters and bobby traps, Israel has no choice

but to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists, and as such, many more will die, so screw the world and their hypocritical

howls who found an excuse to show their loathing of Israel and the Jews...

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, ezzra said:

If the Palestinians want to stop being 'blown to bits' as you say, than stop fighting, kick out Hamas, release the hostages

Has your country released the Palestinians you have hostage?

 

Quote

As of December 31, Israeli authorities also held, according to Israeli Prison Services figures, 866 Palestinians in administrative detention without charge or trial based on secret evidence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine-0

[Neeranam]

In April 2022, there were 4,450 Palestinian security prisoners in Israeli prisons – including 160 children, 32 women, and over 1000 "administrative detainees" (indefinitely incarcerated without charge).^[5]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel

[thaibeachlovers]

34 minutes ago, ezzra said:

If the Palestinians want to stop being 'blown to bits' as you say, than stop fighting, kick out Hamas, release the hostages

and all will be well, simply put, Israel will NOT continue with their doings when all the above will be met, but as long as Hamas

uses guerrilla war tactics such as popping out of tunnels, using children as fighters and bobby traps, Israel has no choice

but to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists, and as such, many more will die, so screw the world and their hypocritical

howls who found an excuse to show their loathing of Israel and the Jews...

I do not know in what reality you live, but to imagine that if Hamas surrendered all would be peace and love is a nonsense. The most that would happen IMO is it would be back to "business as usual" ie blockade of Gaza, collective punishment, arbitrary arrest, raids, land theft and settler attacks in the West Bank, which have only increased since October 7.

 

but as long as Hamas

uses guerrilla war tactics such as popping out of tunnels, using children as fighters and bobby traps, Israel has no choice

but to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists,

 

and how do you think they should fight? They have no tanks, no artillery, no aircraft. To claim that they should just march up to get slaughtered is a nonsense.

Treating all Palestinians as terrorists is collective punishment and a crime against humanity.

 

so screw the world

LOL. Eventually, even the US veto isn't going to be enough to stop the world "screwing" israel.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I do not know in what reality you live, but to imagine that if Hamas surrendered all would be peace and love is a nonsense. The most that would happen IMO is it would be back to "business as usual" ie blockade of Gaza, collective punishment, arbitrary arrest, raids, land theft and settler attacks in the West Bank, which have only increased since October 7.

 

but as long as Hamas

uses guerrilla war tactics such as popping out of tunnels, using children as fighters and bobby traps, Israel has no choice

but to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists,

 

and how do you think they should fight? They have no tanks, no artillery, no aircraft. To claim that they should just march up to get slaughtered is a nonsense.

Treating all Palestinians as terrorists is collective punishment and a crime against humanity.

 

so screw the world

LOL. Eventually, even the US veto isn't going to be enough to stop the world "screwing" israel.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Why would there be a blockade if there was no Hamas? Hamas is the reason for the blockade.

 

What will certainly be over is the major fighting and bombing we see now.

When it suits your argument you whine about this endlessly.

When the option to stop this is discussed, you make light of it.

Disingenuous.

 

What happens in the West Bank does not directly relate to what happens in the Gaza Strip.

 

As for you 'screwing' fantasies, whatever turns you on, old man.

 

 

 

[rabas]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I do not know in what reality you live, but to imagine that if Hamas surrendered all would be peace and love is a nonsense. The most that would happen IMO is it would be back to "business as usual" ie blockade of Gaza, collective punishment, arbitrary arrest, raids, land theft and settler attacks in the West Bank, which have only increased since October 7.

 

but as long as Hamas

uses guerrilla war tactics such as popping out of tunnels, using children as fighters and bobby traps, Israel has no choice

but to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists,

 

and how do you think they should fight? They have no tanks, no artillery, no aircraft. To claim that they should just march up to get slaughtered is a nonsense.

Treating all Palestinians as terrorists is collective punishment and a crime against humanity.

 

so screw the world

LOL. Eventually, even the US veto isn't going to be enough to stop the world "screwing" israel.

 

"... and how do you think they should fight?"

 

Glad you asked. First, Hamas as a terror organization should not exist. Gazans and Palestinians  should 'fight' by working with responsible Arab states to demonstrate a desire to improve (not weaponize) Gaza and develop reasonable peaceful proposals that shame Israel for not doing likewise. Once the ball gets rolling, many but not all relevant powers would support it. 

 

Would you like to see something like that? That's a yes or no type question. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Has your country released the Palestinians you have hostage?

 

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine-0

Have you got the UN Security Council on ignore too? A few days they issued a rare and its first resolution on this war that also called for the unconditional release of all hostages held by Hamas.

 

I know Hamas is obviously ignoring them, its no surprise you are in tandem.

[Neeranam]

To the fundamentalist here that think the slaughter started on Oct 7.

Israeli war crimes were happening before Oct 7.

 

This from lat year:-

 

Cage, Smother, Subdue, Repeat: Israel’s Gaza Policy

For those in Gaza, it’s a struggle for survival. As my Gaza-based Human Rights Watch colleague Abier al-Masri wrote reflecting on last year’s hostilities: “I struggle to find the words to describe the terror of lying awake at night not knowing if I’d see daylight again, the anguish of those I interviewed who survived the obliteration of their families by Israeli strikes, the agony of seeing Gaza’s prominent towers reduced to mountains of rubble.”

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/08/17/cage-smother-subdue-repeat-israels-gaza-policy

[coolcarer]

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

To the fundamentalist here that think the slaughter started on Oct 7.

Israeli war crimes were happening before Oct 7.

 

This from lat year:-

 

Cage, Smother, Subdue, Repeat: Israel’s Gaza Policy

For those in Gaza, it’s a struggle for survival. As my Gaza-based Human Rights Watch colleague Abier al-Masri wrote reflecting on last year’s hostilities: “I struggle to find the words to describe the terror of lying awake at night not knowing if I’d see daylight again, the anguish of those I interviewed who survived the obliteration of their families by Israeli strikes, the agony of seeing Gaza’s prominent towers reduced to mountains of rubble.”

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/08/17/cage-smother-subdue-repeat-israels-gaza-policy

You may want to read that article again, past the headline and snippet you provided. It tells a very different account of your misleading claims.

Edited December 27, 2023 by coolcarer

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Why can you lot not agree that in war atrocities will be committed by both sides either deliberately or by accident and that what atrocities happened years ago have little bearing on what is happening now!

 

I do agree. Why can you not agree that both sides should face prosecution by the ICC for those war crimes?

[Morch]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

I do agree. Why can you not agree that both sides should face prosecution by the ICC for those war crimes?

 

@ozimoron

 

This was addressed multiple times by now. I do not believe that you don't get it.

 

Hamas violations (aka 'war crimes') are clear cut.

Israel's violations (aka 'war crimes') need further substantiating.

 

You jump right ahead to 'prosecution', trying to imply conditions are the same.

They are not.

[Morch]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

I expanded the scope. If you want to get pedantic, the topic is about Israeli atrocities, not Hamas atrocities. The common understanding that we need to reach is for Israel to recognise that Hamas have rights to land and that the settlements are illegal. Anything short of that is a non starter for Hamas. It should be a baseline for Israel as well.

 

@ozimoron

 

The topic is contrived. This instance of the war? Hamas started it.

These dead children? They were very much alive on 6/10. Hamas's choice.

Not providing them with shelters, and treating them as 'necessary sacrifices'? Hamas policy.

 

You talk about 'common understanding' and right off the bat expose your muddled take of such:

 

(a)

Hamas does not have rights to land. The Palestinians may.

 

(b)

There are no illegal Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, where this is taking place.

 

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with actual Hamas positions rather than making up your own version.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I expanded the scope. If you want to get pedantic, the topic is about Israeli atrocities, not Hamas atrocities. The common understanding that we need to reach is for Israel to recognise that Hamas have rights to land and that the settlements are illegal. Anything short of that is a non starter for Hamas. It should be a baseline for Israel as well.

Hamas have no rights. They are terrorists and are being dismantled as we speak. 

[coolcarer]

18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I expanded the scope. If you want to get pedantic, the topic is about Israeli atrocities, not Hamas atrocities. The common understanding that we need to reach is for Israel to recognise that Hamas have rights to land and that the settlements are illegal. Anything short of that is a non starter for Hamas. It should be a baseline for Israel as well.

Just had to pinch myself, thought I had inadvertently stumbled on a Hamas telegram post. Nope…………wow