The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge

[Rimmer]

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[G_Money]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Go Nikki!

 

Nikki Haley wins the District of Columbia’s Republican primary and gets her first 2024 victory

 

 

Every now and then you have to throw a dog a bone.

 

She’ll be forgotten in a days.  

[beautifulthailand99]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I've never been in an echo chamber since I grew up and realised that almost everything I read in a newspaper or see on tv "news" is propaganda or advertising.

 

Take you assertion that Trump is the "worst president ever" which is obviously a biased nonsense. In my lifetime, Bush the younger is the worst president, having gone to war on a lie and caused the deaths of thousands, and chaos in the Middle East which continues to this day.

 

Nixon comes a close second with his war crimes of invading Cambodia.

 

Trump, on the other hand started no wars, was responsible for no American boys coming home in a bag, and endeavored to secure the border and make friends with other countries instead of attacking them and killing a lot of people.

If that's being the worst president, they should all endeavor to be as bad as he.

 

It's a bit sad to me that some people, even on here, are so brainwashed by the MSM that they actually believe not starting wars is worse than starting them.

 

General Milley reluctantly reads the room. Charity begins at home and if Trump stops these US -centric wars then that's worth voting for on that single policy alone. I'm not in the US, but if I was, I would be part of the Leftists through Gritted Teeth for Trump. $7 trillion and millions of live squandered on Afghanistan and Iraq to make the world a more dangerous place, whilst your infrastructure crumbles away and the national debt soars to record levels. Great Empires decline and fall inevitably, and ultimately through their own decadence and external threats. The financialisation of the economy and the looting by the financiers of the system, gaming it like one huge casino, has consequences and those particular chickens now are coming home to roost

 

 

He sees the debate in Congress as a test of whether you think US support for the rules-based international order is important. He sides with those who say that not backing Ukraine is “signalling a deathblow” to that order.

Does he think part of the problem is that Americans have just seen two decades of war — in Afghanistan and Iraq? “Absolutely. 100 per cent,” Milley says emphatically. “They’ve kind of had it with wars and forever wars.”

 

https://www.ft.com/content/3a8ab059-4710-4e56-ad04-87eb623d79ac

 

In China the system has shaken down some of their billionaire class by execution, prison and re-education to make sure they work for the State and are not above it. In the West, we watch in awe as the Bezos, Musk and Branston play with their rockets lording it over us in their toys in space whilst our high streets are hollowed out and collapse. The capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them - VI Lenin, indeed they will, comrade !

[candide]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Trump claims he 'purposely' lost D.C. GOP primary contest to Nikki Haley

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-purposely-lost-to-haley/

Trump calling someone else "birdbrain". That's rich! 😀

[xylophone]

19 minutes ago, G_Money said:

It’s a known fact that he skipped class the day of “Report Writing:  Short, Concise and to the Point’” at the CCC (CIA Correspondence Course).  
 

Appears he played hooky again on the day they taught “How to stay Cool, Calm and Collective under Pressure” at the CCC.

 

Pity, as that class was a “must complete” to be a successful CIA operator.

 

 

 

Your jealousy is showing again you poor tortured soul. Probably because your job as a garbage collector wasn't that fulfilling!!!

Edited March 4 by xylophone

[Phulublub]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

It’s all over the threads.  Ask Roo or Bruth.

But I am asking you.  Why are you so reticent to say?

 

PH

[Roo Island]

15 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

But I am asking you.  Why are you so reticent to say?

 

PH

He's a troll. Or not very smart.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

After proof is offered an opinion can be proven good or bad... but offering your opinion as proof when there is a lack of concrete evidence doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Please tell that to G_Money.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

"Threatened decades of old alliances."  Trump basically told countries taking advantage of America to put up or shut up, including NATO members.  Besides Putin, exactly which "corrupt autocrats" did he cozy up to.  Biden soured our relationship with the Saudis.  Like him or not, MBS is someone to have on our side.  And it is not just because of oil. Rodrigo Duterte could have the done more damage if Trump had badmouthed him.  Now Marcos Jr. has mended a rocky relationship.

Agree, Trump did some bad things, but his detractors forget some of the positive things he was responsible for.

 

Trump threatened to pull out of NATO, and speculated on not extending America's nuclear umbrella to cover east Asian allies, which threatened to start a nuclear arms race in east Asia. 

 

"There are other reasons for South Koreans to question their decades-old leap of faith in US protection, too. Looming large among them is Donald Trump"

 

“The US simply isn’t perceived to be as reliable as it once was,” Ankit Panda of Carnegie Endowment for Peace said. “Even if the Biden administration behaves like a traditional US administration and offers all the right reassurance signals to South Korea… policy makers will have to keep in the back of their mind the possibility of the US once again electing an administration that would have a different approach for South Korea.” https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/asia/us-nuclear-umbrella-south-korea-analysis-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

 

Trump's failure to understand the consequences of nuclear proliferation is reason enough, many times over, to keep him out of the White House.

 

You neglected to mention Trump's love affair with Kim Jong Un, along with any rich autocrat in the Arab world. 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Everything I see linked to here from CNN, NYT or any number of other media outlets are full of deception. 

Have you considered that maybe it's not them?

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, G_Money said:

Along with Obama and Biden.  They’re all guilty of deficit increases.

 

Somebody had to pay for the Obama phones, student loans forgiveness and now possibly reparations to be paid to people who were never slaves, paid for by people who were never slave owners.  

Yes, but Republicans, including Trump, are more likely to increase deficits on their watch.  Democrats are more likely to reverse them.

 

Do you recall the Republican panic early in the George W. Bush Presidency regarding the small budget surplus the Clinton administration left them?  They were actually arguing for more deficit spending, then they delivered big time.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

It's no secret about Trump's and Kushner's business dealings.  That said, it is better to be on the right side of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.  Their tremendous wealth is often used for political purposes. The U.S. does the same thing throughout the world; buying friendship and loyalty.  It's all about money.

If enough countries join BRIC and abandon the dollar the U.S. is screwed.  No more printing money indiscriminately, followed by austere budgets and high inflation.  

Yes, Trump should have said something about Khashoggi's murder.  Was it was mentioned in private?  We may have to wait for another Julian Assange to find out.

The BRICS nations are about as influential in world affairs as ASEAN, for the same reason; too many conflicting agendas.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, G_Money said:

I’m following yourself and Roo.

No, you are definitely not following those posters who use legitimate news sources and credible data.  You prefer opinions, political theater and anecdotal evidence.

4 hours ago, G_Money said:

 
Where are your facts?

Posted earlier.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

North Korea, China, Syria and Turkey.  What damage was done by Trump's praises? 

Clearly you don't understand that what a US President says matters.  The Korean War and first Iraq war began in part because the leaders of North Korea and Iraq misinterpreted US statements about America's defense policy.

 

People who speak without thinking are fools.  Sometimes they are entertaining, but they are not fit for public office.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Like men can menstruate, give birth and breast feed? 

Do you have any sources from outside your echo chamber for that one?

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Do you have any sources from outside your echo chamber for that one?

For transgender men, pain of menstruation is more than just physical (nbcnews.com)

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Have you considered that maybe it's not them?

Yes, but (unlike you) I read and comprehend them, and I am reassured.

[heybruce]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

For transgender men, pain of menstruation is more than just physical (nbcnews.com)

Biological women who identify as men menstruate.  So what?

[heybruce]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, but (unlike you) I read and comprehend them, and I am reassured.

No you don't.  You may think you do, but....

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

No you don't.  You may think you do, but....

Do you have any sources from outside your echo chamber for that one?

[candide]

45 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

He's a troll. Or not very smart.

Both? 😀

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Biological women who identify as men menstruate.  So what?

So trans men aren't men? Finally, some common ground. 

[heybruce]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have any sources from outside your echo chamber for that one?

Only your posts.

[scottiejohn]

14 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Biological women who identify as men menstruate.  So what?

Real males cannot menstruate at any time!

Real Females/women, depending on age, may do so!

Real Females/women CANNOT have a penis!

[heybruce]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So trans men aren't men? Finally, some common ground. 

There's biological sex, there is the sex that people identify with, and there are people who have weird views on the subject.

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There's biological sex, there is the sex that people identify with, and there are people who have weird views on the subject.

 

So trans men aren't real men? It's a pretty straight forward yes or no question.

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Real males cannot menstruate at any time!

Real Females/women, depending on age, may do so!

Real Females/women CANNOT have a penis!

Thank you, hope springs eternal.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Your jealousy is showing again you poor tortured soul. Probably because your job as a garbage collector wasn't that fulfilling!!!

Probably.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

He's a troll. Or not very smart.

Double ouch!

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Your jealousy is showing again you poor tortured soul. Probably because your job as a garbage collector wasn't that fulfilling!!!

It's always a tell when the leftist elites condescend to the working class. 

 

What is wrong with collecting garbage?