Two New Zealand Men Arrested in Phuket for Alleged Brutal Assault on Traffic Cop

[superal]

31 minutes ago, john donson said:

GTA but in real life...any booze involved...

My thoughts too but who the cops or NZs ? If the cops , well I can understand the resistance  

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

since i got my Motorcycle thai license (I having only held a car license for 25 years here)
back in Feb 2023 i have not been stopped ONCE at any check point

I think it has to do with a ride a honda wave which are not rented to tourists anymore  🙂

I was stopped on my wife's Click by cops in Chiang Mai at a routine stop ( Thais being stopped too ). Wife forgot to renew the rego so I had to pay 200 baht fine. The cop was polite and did not try to extort me.

I made wife pay me back, which she didn't like much.

[georgegeorgia]

Just talking to a Filipino guy ,he tells me if these guys done this in the Philippines they would be dead 

[Cabradelmar]

51 minutes ago, chessman said:

According to news in New Zealand, the two are brothers and their parents are millionaires.

 

 

Doing what self entitled rich people do... Classic. 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

"The vdo looks like a phone camera vdo being taken by a civilian that was hiding from possibly being attacked, or shot."

 

No, sorry, but it does say in the article:- 

 

"...the two foreigners were infuriated and allegedly attacked the police while having the incident recorded by the police.

Have you never read a news article that got some things wrong? The article also say the cop pursued them, but says nothing about another cop doing so.

 

Another post on here said a Thai woman took the vdo.

[georgegeorgia]

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

I feel these guys must be counselling in anger management rather than punished 

 

I hope they can meet the officer and apologise and maybe forded to do community service 

 

[zakalwe]

55 minutes ago, chessman said:

According to news in New Zealand, the two are brothers and their parents are millionaires.

 

 

So the parents own 1 house in Auckland?

[sambum]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I already said that the vdo looks like some amateur civilian hiding from possibly getting shot using their phone camera. I'll withdraw that if it is claimed by the cops that they took it. IMO if it was a cop the assailant was lucky to not be shot.

 

From the article itself:-

 

"...the two foreigners were infuriated and allegedly attacked the police while having the incident recorded by the police.

 

Or to fire another conspiracy theory into the equation, was the whole thing just a set up, with a cop taking the video just making sure that he had enough evidence to convict the "bad farangs"? 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just talking to a Filipino guy ,he tells me if these guys done this in the Philippines they would be dead 

Same in Singapore in the 70s. If a cop told us to stop and we didn't "bang".

[Rampant Rabbit]

some interesting comments on the facebook page from Thais  stating the police only stop tourists not the Thais, why is  that, so at least there is some reasoning from some Thais, some of the comments  are really funny...........ban them from coming  again and ALL their family! Another one states Thai soldiers dont  follow Thai law, I  guess that relates to the coup

Preeyaporn Chumprayun

อยากทราบประเด็นเรื่องขับรถไม่มีใบขับขี่ ทำไมเราไม่ออกกฎตั้งแต่ต้นสายโดยที่ไม่อนุญาตให้ นทท. เช่ารถ หากไม่มีใขขับขี่

ประเด็นที่สองคือ บริเวณวงเวียนฉลองเห็นมาบ่อยครั้งที่ ตร. จะเรียกตรวจแต่ นทท. ซึ่งบ่อยครั้งคนไทยก็ทำผิดกฎจราจรเช่นกัน

Edited March 18 by Rampant Rabbit

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, zakalwe said:

So the parents own 1 house in Auckland?

In a poor area at that.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, georgegeorgia said:

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

I feel these guys must be counselling in anger management rather than punished 

 

I hope they can meet the officer and apologise and maybe forded to do community service 

 

Have you ever seen anyone doing community service in LOS?

[Dolf]

1 hour ago, ryandb said:

Amazing how many take the police announcement to be 100% factual 

Cops uphold the peace. They are guests. Headlock and gun stealing you excuse? Amazing

 

[Bangkok Barry]

20 minutes ago, ryandb said:

 

It may end one way, but they you give a different outcome.... Again it comes down to what took place before, would you have blamed a Jew from fighting back with a Police officer in the 40s? How about a woman being sexually assaulted by a cop?

 

Cops aren't Gods, just because they wear a costume does not mean they are untouchable. 

 

How many times do I have to state the obvious - I repeat - That only ends one way, and in many countries in you being shot dead. It really doesn't matter who started it or who was to blame or what it was about. Anyone who fights a cop then runs a very high risk of becoming a victim themselves. Frustrating, yes. But no-one ever wins a fight against the police. Especially in a corrupt third world country like Thailand which has a tendency to throw the book at foreigners even for minor transgressions (Swiss guy, anyone?). Retaliation is self-destructive and puts you in a no-win situation. Always. There is absolutely no point in being macho about it. None.

[superal]

9 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said:

There is also evidence on the cops phone of the NZs trying to bribe their way out of the final stop, and eye witnesses at the noodle shop where the final stop occured. Hamish and Oscar did a stupid thing and will face consequences. That is a near certainty. As it should be. Should have just obligated the original traffic stop. Everyone knows those stop points are designed to sweep in as many as possible. But they also let go as many as they fine.

Where is that evidence shown ? Just watched the video again but could not hear the NZs talking .

[georgegeorgia]

Does anyone know if the police will bash them?

I hope that still doesn't go on 

[Dolf]

Just now, georgegeorgia said:

Does anyone know if the police will bash them?

I hope that still doesn't go on 

Shame, they both deserve it

[zakalwe]

Ok, so the brothers' parents have money money.

"Retired Hamilton multi-millionaires Laurence and Katrina Day say Governments should be forced to listen when the public speak via referendums and they've given $675,000 of their own money to Colin Craig's Conservative Party's election campaign in support of that belief.

Electoral Commission filings yesterday show the couple tipped another $500,000 into the Conservative Party campaign war chest, adding to the $175,000 they have previously donated to the party.

Mr Day, who received more than $10 million for his share of a private training organisation when it was sold recently, yesterday indicated he'll be giving more to Mr Craig's party and said: "Watch this space.""

 

The cops should be aware of this by now.

[superal]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I was stopped on my wife's Click by cops in Chiang Mai at a routine stop ( Thais being stopped too ). Wife forgot to renew the rego so I had to pay 200 baht fine. The cop was polite and did not try to extort me.

I made wife pay me back, which she didn't like much.

Did she pay you back in kind in the bed ?

[ryandb]

39 minutes ago, ryandb said:

But you do not assault police officers. Ever. Anywhere. At any time. For any reason.

 

This is what you said, and I completely disagree, like I originally replied, would you drop your trousers and touch your toes if the police asked you to?

[sambum]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Have you never read a news article that got some things wrong? The article also say the cop pursued them, but says nothing about another cop doing so.

 

Another post on here said a Thai woman took the vdo.

 

"Have you never read a news article that got some things wrong?"

So we don't believe anything that has been said in the article? Or just "cherry pick" the parts that suits our agenda   we like?

 

(Maybe the other cop followed on behind - camera at the ready?)

 

Not doubting you, but I don't recall seeng a post which claims a Thai woman took the video - could you provide a link, please?

[Rampant Rabbit]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Does anyone know if the police will bash them?

I hope that still doesn't go on 

Nah its much less damaging  now, they just get a bag form 7/11  although i did hear it requires 2-3............remember that case?

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, ryandb said:

 

This is what you said, and I completely disagree, like I originally replied, would you drop your trousers and touch your toes if the police asked you to?

Stupid comment.

[GroveHillWanderer]

37 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

I was replying to your comment because it does seem odd that someone (Not CCTV) was taking a video of the situation, and from what has been said already, it would "appear that" that person is another cop, and I was implying that if it was,why didn't he jump in to help? 

It is reported in various articles from multiple different sources about this incident, that it was a bystander who took the video, not a policeman. 

[Dolf]

Give you 2 choices-

 

1 pay 200 baht or so for no licence (500 baht maybe)

2 assault a cop, punch him, steal his gun get years in jail

 

How dumb can these 2 be?

[Jiggo]

So one of these guy's cleared the weapon and made it safe....only sensible thing they did.

[ryandb]

8 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Stupid comment.

It's not, you don't comply with tyranny (not saying this was an instance of tyranny before you get confused) when a Police Officer does something to you that is wrong and the only way to save yourself is to defend yourself then you have every right to do so

 

If you are fearing for your life which might be the case here, might not as well, would you rather die on your knees or die fighting?

Edited March 18 by ryandb

[barmatt]

No matter what their side of the story is, they tackled and disarmed a police officer who is entitled to use all discretion to arrest individuals not obeying the law.

Say bye bye to Thai poontang boys.

[transam]

1 hour ago, ryandb said:

Is there photos of them fleeing? evidence of the Road Traffic Offenses outside of the police statement of this right now? 

 

I've only seen video of them restraining the cop, I'm sure there will be some eye witness statements appear in time but right now there is no evidence of what the police stated happened before the video

Are you a NZ yobbo too.........?  😬

[sambum]

27 minutes ago, ryandb said:

 

Yes guessing the state of mind is by definition conjecture as we do not know it!!

 

Ah I missed the recorded by the police, but it still doesn't change what the video shows which is the only evidence at this time but very weird if that was a cop why exactly they didn't draw their weapon (assuming they were carrying) especially when once the guy took possession of it.

 

".....very weird if that was a cop why exactly they didn't draw their weapon"

 

Couldn't agree more!