Phuket Hospital Appeals for Respectful Conduct from Russian Patients

[sambum]

3 hours ago, BestB said:

War dodgers? It’s a good thing ignorance is a bliss ehh?

there is no forced mobilisation in Russia , no one needs to dodge anything , at least educate yourself to appear half as ignorant.

 

Russians coming here because they cannot go to crimea and it’s cheaper to come to Thailand than to go to Sochi and most importantly most were here for the winter with many returning in the coming months for Russian summer 

 

"......many returning in the coming months for Russian summer"

 

Then why does there appear to be more and more of them in my local Tesco Lotus and Macro? 

[metisdead]

An off topic deflection post about medical treatment in Florida contravening our Community Standards has been removed.

[sambum]

4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

You might be right, I know a Thai girl who is a pharmacist and speaks fluent Russian, a lot of Russians go to her because of that, I doubt anyone in that hospital can speak Russian, I can tell you I have been in there a few times and English is not that good, infact once a nurse asking me questions in English was so bad I told her to speak Thai, your English is crap, and she was an arrogant piece of <deleted>,

 

I think if I was a Thai nurse asking questions in English was told to "Speak Thai, your English is crap", I would be a bit miffed too! 

Being pedantic, yours isn't brilliant either - were you not taught to use "full stops" at your school?

[Oliver Holzerfilled]

The hospital staff should remember the old saying "don't get mad, get even."

 

When it's prostate exam time for the Russkie give him the three finger salute.

[Letseng]

10 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Maybe for a International hospital they should be employing Russian staff I see plenty of Russians going there when I have had to use the hospital, 

The hospital staff are not completely innocent especially the nurses their attitude has been really bad on a few occasions, To me it was like they dont like Farangs, One time I was in there with dengue the nurse came in the room I asked her to turn the A/C down, she turned it off and walked out of the room, not long after that some farang manager came to see me and as he was talking to me he asked if I dont like A/C I said I love it but the nurse turned it off, 

Another time my wife was in accident so she was admitted for a couple days in that new part, and I stayed with her overnight, almost opposite my wifes room was a reception area, at 2-30 am in the night the noise was that bad I went out to them asked them to quieten down and took some photo's as evidence, you should have seen the looks I got, I could go on, but we'll leave it at that. 

I have noticed over the years Russians do have a bad attitude towards Thai's 

Russians are bossy unless you stand your ground. They have a bad attitude overall not just towards Thais.

[Letseng]

10 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Maybe for a International hospital they should be employing Russian staff I see plenty of Russians going there when I have had to use the hospital, 

The hospital staff are not completely innocent especially the nurses their attitude has been really bad on a few occasions, To me it was like they dont like Farangs, One time I was in there with dengue the nurse came in the room I asked her to turn the A/C down, she turned it off and walked out of the room, not long after that some farang manager came to see me and as he was talking to me he asked if I dont like A/C I said I love it but the nurse turned it off, 

Another time my wife was in accident so she was admitted for a couple days in that new part, and I stayed with her overnight, almost opposite my wifes room was a reception area, at 2-30 am in the night the noise was that bad I went out to them asked them to quieten down and took some photo's as evidence, you should have seen the looks I got, I could go on, but we'll leave it at that. 

I have noticed over the years Russians do have a bad attitude 

Bumrungrad has a sign in the hospital rooms which says that staff should be treated with respect.

They don't have many Russian patients but Westerners & Middle Eastern. 

In many hospitals in European countries you will find hospital security staff for a reason: aggressive patients.

Edited April 22 by Letseng
Wrong text

[vangrop]

12 hours ago, rexpotter said:

Hellfire: Your English is not very clear. Is it your native tongue?

Edited 12 hours ago by rexpotter

And you Harry Potter I doubt English is your native tongue. Maybe Aberdeen is your native tongue or Liverpool or Manchester or Dundee or Iverness or Swansea or Cockney or Aberystwyth or... but for sure not Oxford

[Paris333]

Russia is in Europe territory and as westerners have the same rude behaviour agianst civilians from other continents.

American civilians are rude and make discriminations against Asian civilians.

Medical staf concentrate the anger and bad mood created from corona period "guidance" .....

 

[Purdey]

Time to hire Ukrainian nurses.

[dirtybirty]

Easy sign no Russians or Israelis allowed

[dirtybirty]

27 minutes ago, Paris333 said:

Russia is in Europe territory and as westerners have the same rude behaviour agianst civilians from other continents.

American civilians are rude and make discriminations against Asian civilians.

Medical staf concentrate the anger and bad mood created from corona period "guidance" .....

 

Say again in comprehensible english

[OldmanJ]

People who knowingly display disrespect should be evicted from the place,not everyone displays respect and manners but it goes a long way and is welcomed.

[theshu25]

10 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

I reported your post to Justin

Wow ,you are going to be busy today then. Lots worse have been said about the animals.

[Shetraveler]

15 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

''Multilingual signage and information brochures: Providing clear instructions and information about hospital procedures in multiple languages, including Russian, can help manage patient expectations and avoid misunderstandings."

 

One loaded precedent...

How many languages, how many procedures?

 

Oh yes, the procedure about giving your name at the reception, getting a cue number, and waiting for your turn.

All these confusing steps that people of different culture and language seem to understand by intuition....

Google translate is a valid option, too.

[Shetraveler]

15 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

"The hospital might establish a clear policy outlining unacceptable behavior"

 

Sad realty is that Russians have to be told what acceptable behavior is

 

 

 

So do USians and most English speaking nations.  

[radiochaser]

7 minutes ago, Shetraveler said:

So do USians and most English speaking nations.  

What does USian mean?

[pomchop]

When the thai govt gives them 90 days no visa maybe they think they are "special"....

[Old Croc]

17 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Maybe for a International hospital they should be employing Russian staff I see plenty of Russians going there when I have had to use the hospital, 

Most, if not all, private Phuket hospitals employ Russian coordinators on staff. 

 

"International Medical Care: “We speak your language”

Bangkok Hospital Phuket employs a team of multilingual coordinators who are always ready to assist guests to overcome any language barriers. The hospital also liaises and coordinates with leading insurance & assistance companies worldwide to facilitate the insured with direct billing agreements. Over a dozen worldwide languages are spoken at Bangkok Hospital Phuket, which ensures patients can feel at ease in any language. Multilingual Coordinators speak English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Danish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, and Tagalog."

 

Obviously, Government hospitals don't have the budget for such staff.

 

[suspectdevice]

14 hours ago, mran66 said:

 

I am absolutely not racist and have nothing against Black people (nor any other skin colours), Norwegians nor birds for that matter, whether able to fly or not. However due to personal experiences unfortunately I can not say the same about Russians, and my grandpa can say even less so.

 

My point was about statistics of well behaving Russians, and as I have quite a few Norwegian neighbors and was just talking with one of them (white hair white skin guy),  just took them as example thinking what they as people are and what they are not statistically.

 

I apologize if you understood my point as insulting for Black, that was absolutely not the intention.

No need to apologise. It was obvious what your point was. Just a woke looking to be offended where no offence exists.

[Skipalongcassidy]

18 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Seems that way, drunken rape and theft, it seems that is acceptable behavior by them in the Ukraine, so give them free 3+ month visas Clown face PM, who has no Idea about Russians or their culture. 

Russians are not from the Ukraine... 

[Skipalongcassidy]

4 hours ago, Shetraveler said:

So do USians and most English speaking nations.  

The topic of this op is the russians... but you are right.

[Skipalongcassidy]

11 hours ago, BestB said:

War dodgers? It’s a good thing ignorance is a bliss ehh?

there is no forced mobilisation in Russia , no one needs to dodge anything , at least educate yourself to appear half as ignorant.

 

Russians coming here because they cannot go to crimea and it’s cheaper to come to Thailand than to go to Sochi and most importantly most were here for the winter with many returning in the coming months for Russian summer 

What rock do you live under?  At least educate yourself to appear half as ignorant... 

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5 August 2023

By Olga Ivshina,BBC News Russia

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"Now I live in a state of constant fear. I can't plan anything," says Peter, 27.

He is a salesman living in St Petersburg - but he is now at risk of being called up to fight as part of the Ukraine war.

At the end of July, Russia raised the maximum conscription age by three years, widening the pool of men that can be called up to serve. Peter is one of millions affected by this change.

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[baansgr]

20 hours ago, Hellfire said:

unreasonable expectations regarding treatment.
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Yes, some people don’t expect to pay triple prices for everything and get angry. You cannot expect a respectability from somebody you openly rob. 

Triple prices compared to what? Surely not the social security  paying Thai residents?

[SAFETY FIRST]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Russian patients have exhibited demanding and disrespectful behavior towards staff. These reports mention instances of yelling, verbal abuse

Poor Thailand 😔

Edited April 22 by SAFETY FIRST

[AboutThaim]

20 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Yeah, they are and have been uneducated so far:

The Tsar, the writers as Dostoevsky or composers as Rachmaninoff. All uneducated? I suppose many Russians here got a diploma from University, which I can't day probably about most of Expats here.

Do you agree?

I love these posts that go way back in history to support a point they are trying to make.  I read (a joke?) about a bloke and his Russian girlfriend in Moscow. He asked her why everyone kept looking at him.  She replied, because you look intelligent.  Stalin had all the intelligent people killed when he was in power.

[newbee2022]

17 minutes ago, AboutThaim said:

I love these posts that go way back in history to support a point they are trying to make.  I read (a joke?) about a bloke and his Russian girlfriend in Moscow. He asked her why everyone kept looking at him.  She replied, because you look intelligent.  Stalin had all the intelligent people killed when he was in power.

Very confusing. Make it straight what to express.😳

[webfact]

Russian to respect: Phuket hospital calls for law-abiding visitors
byf Bob Scott

 

Picture courtesy of  Phuket News

 

Vachira Phuket Hospital called upon the Russian community in  Phuket to respect Thai laws and hospital regulations following a string of incidents involving Russian nationals. Recent episodes include a Russian man refusing to settle his medical bills, and a woman threatening hospital staff with a baseball bat.

 

A man of Russian nationality was arrested on April 19 for intimidating the staff at Vachira Phuket Hospital and declining to pay his outstanding medical bill. The hospital has declared it will not tolerate such conduct.

 

The letter appealing to the Russian community in Phuket was signed by Methavee Maneesri, the Head of the International Department at Vachira Phuket Hospital.

“Dear Russian Community in  Phuket, please find the attached information from the police daily record regarding an incident [that occurred at Vachira  Phuket Hospital]. The behaviour described in the report is unacceptable to us. I am ready to assist and cooperate with anyone involved in medical cases, provided they adhere to standard procedures and respect public laws and regulations.”

Methavee stressed the importance of respecting hospital procedures and public laws. She also reminded everyone that healthcare services are not free, encouraging everyone to have medical or work insurance and adhere to the waiting in a queue like Thai nationals do.

 

The letter, dated April 20, was sent to The  Phuket News with a request to share the information in Novosti Phuketa, the Russian-language sister newspaper of The  Phuket News.

 

Outstanding bill

 

Included with the letter was a copy of a Phuket City Police report corroborating Methavee’s complaint about an incident involving a threatening Russian patient. According to this report and Methavee’s account, a 48 year old Russian patient, Sergey Chent, received treatment on April 17 and left without paying his bill totalling 8,380 baht.

 

On April 19, Chent returned to Vachira Phuket Hospital for another medical consultation. Methavee and other hospital staff requested him to pay the outstanding bill of 8,380 baht. Chent refused to pay and threatened the staff, bragging about his connections with high-ranking police officers, influence, and wealth. He was accompanied by a woman carrying a baseball bat, according to the police report.

 

“They also brought weapons, a baseball bat, into the hospital. He displayed threatening behaviour towards the officers and showed that he knew the police and caused chaos within the hospital.”

 

Police officers from  Phuket City Police Station, located about 700 metres from Vachira  Phuket Hospital, arrived and restored order. Chent was taken to Phuket City Police Station where he agreed to pay the hospital bill of 8,380 baht. It remains unclear whether the police filed charges against Chent or the woman with the baseball bat.

 

Methavee, in her official police complaint, demanded legal action against Chent and the woman because of their behaviour at the hospital.

 

Methavee explained that this incident was not a misunderstanding. She said the Russian man “wanted to scare her, behaved like mafia, claimed to have many businesses in Phuket, and know big people.”

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“I want to inform the Russian community that its members should not behave like this man. Please, stay in  Phuket in peace and maintain good relationships.”

 

This incident occurred around the same time as Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin’s visit to Region 8 Police Headquarters in  Phuket. The 62 year old prime minister emphasised the importance of enforcing laws impartially, particularly against influential foreigners who consider themselves above the law.

 

“Do not let foreign mafia settle down in your area of responsibility and destroy the investment attractiveness of the region. Ask local officials and politicians to keep an eye on foreigners. Do not let misbehaving foreigners destroy your credibility.

 

“Nowadays, society places more importance on the issue of foreign businesspeople coming to operate in the area illegally. Please ramp up the inspections and do your job with tourism confidence in mind. I am specifically entrusting you to deal with those ‘big people’ demonstrating mafia behaviour. Don’t limit your effort to catching small fish only. The law must be enforced correctly, fairly, and strictly.”

 

Prime Minister Srettha was accompanied by Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Thai Police General Kitirath Panphet; Assistant Commissioner of the Royal Thai Police Lt. Gen. Thatchai Pitanilabutr, and Commissioner of the Tourist Police Lt. Gen. Saksira Phueakam.

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-04-23

 

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[John Drake]

13 minutes ago, webfact said:

According to this report and Methavee’s account, a 48 year old Russian patient, Sergey Chent, received treatment on April 17 and left without paying his bill totalling 8,380 baht.

 

All these rich Russians. Right. Sounds like Diamond Jim, doesn't he?!?!

[John Drake]

15 minutes ago, webfact said:

On April 19, Chent returned to Vachira Phuket Hospital for another medical consultation. Methavee and other hospital staff requested him to pay the outstanding bill of 8,380 baht. Chent refused to pay and threatened the staff, bragging about his connections with high-ranking police officers, influence, and wealth. He was accompanied by a woman carrying a baseball bat, according to the police report.

 

“They also brought weapons, a baseball bat, into the hospital. He displayed threatening behaviour towards the officers and showed that he knew the police and caused chaos within the hospital.”

 

Okay. All of the above posters who were claiming that other Western nationalities, especially English speaking ones, behave just like this, got any examples? Outright criminal thugs, threatening a beat down on hospital staff over 8000 baht. Russian mobsters it sounds like are running Phuket.

[Tropicalevo]

38 minutes ago, webfact said:

On April 19, Chent returned to Vachira Phuket Hospital for another medical consultation. Methavee and other hospital staff requested him to pay the outstanding bill of 8,380 baht. Chent refused to pay and threatened the staff

Now that the hospital have their money for the first treatment, hopefully he is now banned from that hospital.

Or maybe they want to give him an enema?