1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

So, it is an opinion of yours, that cannot be backed up.... Personally, I have never seen any reports, in the media, so am interested in how you formed your opinion.

Some things are just not published in "the media".

 

I.e. maybe 10 years ago my friend Tony walked in the middle of the night back from Soi Cowboy to his apartment in Soi 22.

A drug addict stabbed him a couple of times to get money for drugs.

Luckily a taxi driver saw this happening and he brough my friend to a hospital. He was there maybe for a week in the ICU, and he survived.

 

Was this ever reported in the media? I don't think so.

I visited Tony in the ICU, I know it happened.

Another friend of Tony worked at that time at one of the leading English language newspapers in Thailand. And he didn't even try to publish this story.

I don't know if the news media are self-censoring, or if they get some "advice" from above what they should not publish.

Fact is, lots of things happen in real life, but you don't see anything in the media about it.

Other examples are all those illegal casinos, corrupt cops, bars with naked girls and smoking customers, etc. How often do you see that in the media? And if it's not in the media does that mean it doesn't happen?

22 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

 

Maybe declining to be overcharged?

Has anyone ever been overcharged by a motorbike taxi. Please tell us of the outcome.

23 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Might be so. However, we also all know, that it is very little that needs to be triggered to get these guys into action.

They won't be any action if any of these guys are on their own and there is no way they can contact their pals quickly. I know from experience.

Scum, Take there License  and Crush the  M Bike  and Jail them for 12 months  that should teach them . 

This is a good time for the government to get there Act together and Do something about those Mafia thugs.

But Nah nothing is going to change, Pigs might Fly sooner than a change here.

 

 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 4:31 AM, bob smith said:

I have witnessed many such acts of violence aimed at tourists down there and most of it was without provocation.

 

And still you return?

Just now, watchcat said:

 

And still you return?

haven’t been to poo ket  for years.

 

bob.

Just now, bob smith said:

haven’t been to poo ket  for years.

 

bob.

 

Ok, Ithought prerahaps you where a resididense, foor tkat I'm sorry.

On 7/15/2024 at 4:01 AM, bob smith said:

It's a very dangerous place and just looking at someone the wrong way can result in physical violence.

 

Could happen in CM 25 years ago.

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Some things are just not published in "the media".

 

I.e. maybe 10 years ago my friend Tony walked in the middle of the night back from Soi Cowboy to his apartment in Soi 22.

A drug addict stabbed him a couple of times to get money for drugs.

Luckily a taxi driver saw this happening and he brough my friend to a hospital. He was there maybe for a week in the ICU, and he survived.

 

Was this ever reported in the media? I don't think so.

I visited Tony in the ICU, I know it happened.

Another friend of Tony worked at that time at one of the leading English language newspapers in Thailand. And he didn't even try to publish this story.

I don't know if the news media are self-censoring, or if they get some "advice" from above what they should not publish.

Fact is, lots of things happen in real life, but you don't see anything in the media about it.

Other examples are all those illegal casinos, corrupt cops, bars with naked girls and smoking customers, etc. How often do you see that in the media? And if it's not in the media does that mean it doesn't happen?

I ask for proof, you come up with 1  "story" of an unknown friend, who, for some unknown reason, didn't report the stabbing, to the cops, in fact the hospital also didn't report it, this all seems like a conveniently made up story.

1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

I ask for proof, you come up with 1  "story" of an unknown friend, who, for some unknown reason, didn't report the stabbing, to the cops, in fact the hospital also didn't report it, this all seems like a conveniently made up story.

 I give up with you.

I have to admit I don't know if he reported the stabbing. I was more concerned with his health than telling him he should not forget to report it to the police.

If you think it's made up, fine, that is your problem. But maybe ask yourself, why should I make up such a story, in an anonymous forum? It just doesn't make any sense.

 

I will add you now to my ignore list so that I don't need to see your "I don't believe you" mails anymore. It's a waste of time to read your post.

On 7/15/2024 at 10:59 AM, richard_smith237 said:

As highlighted by OMF… [If people get beaten up, there is normally a reason for that]…

 

Not condoning the pack violence or any violence at all - but the victim may be responsible for ‘triggering a conflict which the moto-thugs escalated.

 

Very little happens when people keep their mouth shut & behave. 

 

 

if you ever become a victim of senseless violence, come post here

 

On 7/15/2024 at 11:59 AM, Incorrigible1 said:

As my wife has constantly told me when driving and cut off by a motorcycle taxi - “their lives are meaningless and worthless, why would you waste even one minute thinking about them?”  The mere existence of motorcycle taxis being an accepted form of transportation is a clear sign that Thailand is only slightly above a third world country

You sure found a winner.  Want to share any other classless thing she spews. 

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 I give up with you.

I have to admit I don't know if he reported the stabbing. I was more concerned with his health than telling him he should not forget to report it to the police.

If you think it's made up, fine, that is your problem. But maybe ask yourself, why should I make up such a story, in an anonymous forum? It just doesn't make any sense.

 

I will add you now to my ignore list so that I don't need to see your "I don't believe you" mails anymore. It's a waste of time to read your post.

Don't get the ignore list threats.  Can't you just ignore him without putting him on a list.  You seem more capable intellectually than the majority of of posters here and he is being an idiot.  Let him be a fool and move on is what I would do but many do seem to like the ignore list so I might be the odd one.

On 7/15/2024 at 11:40 AM, richard_smith237 said:

A tourist responds to a high fare quite with "F%$K you, I'm not paying that"... (gets a kick in the head) - I'm wondering if you think thats 'without' provocation....

And you reckon beating someone up for a few drunken words is fine? So civilised..

54 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Don't get the ignore list threats.  Can't you just ignore him without putting him on a list.  You seem more capable intellectually than the majority of of posters here and he is being an idiot.  Let him be a fool and move on is what I would do but many do seem to like the ignore list so I might be the odd one.

I think sometimes it's fair to tell people why they won't get any response anymore.

I guess you know the ignore function in this forum. Hoover over the member's name, click ignore, and you will not see him again. Problem solved - at least for me.

 

In above case, it was not a threat, it was just a fact which I let him know. Maybe, just maybe, he will think a minute about what he wrote and think twice next time. That won't make any difference with me anymore, but maybe it will help him to avoid being ignored by "everybody".

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

Want to share any other classless thing she spews. 

Sure, ignore low class, street food eating, visa run farangs who cannot afford to live in whatever country they came from

39 minutes ago, Incorrigible1 said:

Sure, ignore low class, street food eating, visa run farangs who cannot afford to live in whatever country they came from

You have met your perfect match it seems.  Sorry for being offensive and I'm sure you two have loads of fun.  Off to grab some street noodles.

14 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

So, it is an opinion of yours, that cannot be backed up.... Personally, I have never seen any reports, in the media, so am interested in how you formed your opinion.

 

I have formed my opinion through exposure - spending a long time here we build friendships and acquaintances, we are told things, we become aware of things that do not reach the 'English media sources' etc..   Thus, its perfectly understandable to me that others have 'scratched the surface' and are also aware of the realities of life here.

 

 

 

There is no way to 'back up' or 'provide you with proof'.. no links, no reports etc...  its up to you if you want to take my word for it or not...  For posters such as OMF - there is no reason for him to exaggerate his claims, he seems like a guy who says it the way he see's it - I see no reason to question his comments. I don't see a reason why mine would be questioned - there is a lot that happens in Thailand that we never get to read or hear about and some of us may have more exposure to some pieces of information than others.

 

 

 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 10:59 AM, richard_smith237 said:

As highlighted by OMF… [If people get beaten up, there is normally a reason for that]…

 

Not condoning the pack violence or any violence at all - but the victim may be responsible for ‘triggering a conflict which the moto-thugs escalated.

 

Very little happens when people keep their mouth shut & behave. 

 

"The carpet crawlers heed their callers..."

If you stay in the basement, with a helmet on, even "nothing" happens! Lol.

The Taxi mafia at it again! They should be charged and brought before the courts for their actions and am very curious as to what would have triggered such a violent response from the Thais.

16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 I give up with you.

I have to admit I don't know if he reported the stabbing. I was more concerned with his health than telling him he should not forget to report it to the police.

If you think it's made up, fine, that is your problem. But maybe ask yourself, why should I make up such a story, in an anonymous forum? It just doesn't make any sense.

 

I will add you now to my ignore list so that I don't need to see your "I don't believe you" mails anymore. It's a waste of time to read your post.

Ignore me if you wish, others will still see my comments.

Why do I suspect your comment, well, some on here like to make things up, simply to justify their BS comments. Besides, even if true, 1 instance does not justify a globally covering comment, as you tried to imply.

11 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Ignore me if you wish, others will still see my comments.

Why do I suspect your comment, well, some on here like to make things up, simply to justify their BS comments. Besides, even if true, 1 instance does not justify a globally covering comment, as you tried to imply.

Some posters clearly make stuff up… others have a more reliable posting history. 
 

You are barking up the trouser legs of the wrong poster - OMF is not known for posting BS… I think it’s fair enough to take his comments at face value. 
 

 

 

20 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

They won't be any action if any of these guys are on their own and there is no way they can contact their pals quickly. I know from experience.

That´s 100% true, but they are almost always in a pack of scum.

18 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

I ask for proof, you come up with 1  "story" of an unknown friend, who, for some unknown reason, didn't report the stabbing, to the cops, in fact the hospital also didn't report it, this all seems like a conveniently made up story.

We can just ask you the same thing. Do you have proof for the accusation of made up story? If not, you are walking very close on the blurred line of breaking the Thai defamation law.

On 7/15/2024 at 12:57 PM, Mark Nothing said:

This is a text book social hierarchy case.  Foreigners are so low in the pecking order to them that we are always in the wrong.

 

Whether the dispute was a fare dispute, parking dispute, looking at them dispute, verbal dispute doesn't matter.  You will be taught a lesson to not do it again.  

 

I can feel the hatred emanating from the motorscooter taxi boys on my daily walks and cross the street to avoid any contact with them.

 

Beating up foreigners who fail to follow the social hierarchy system is their immediate judicial right. They are teaching the foreigner that they are superior.

 

Indeed, and many of them are sitting drinking cheap alcohol all day, and even some consuming yaba.

 

Grab and Bolt type services eliminate the need to use them now, so hopefully they will all be gone in a few years.

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

We can just ask you the same thing. Do you have proof for the accusation of made up story? If not, you are walking very close on the blurred line of breaking the Thai defamation law.

"Seems like" means an impression... seems you misunderstood and simply go looking for trouble, that isn't any of your business. 

For all of the apologists for the motorbike “taxi” thugs, those who are using your imagination to blame the tourist (he refused to pay a wh..re, he parked in the wrong place, he used the f word) - which of these behaviors justifies beating a person to unconsciousness?  I also have difficulty in understanding  how using the f word inappropriately in a civilized world has anything to do with it being used in Patong, a place that is far from civilized 

48 minutes ago, Incorrigible1 said:

For all of the apologists for the motorbike “taxi” thugs, those who are using your imagination to blame the tourist (he refused to pay a wh..re, he parked in the wrong place, he used the f word) - which of these behaviors justifies beating a person to unconsciousness?  I also have difficulty in understanding  how using the f word inappropriately in a civilized world has anything to do with it being used in Patong, a place that is far from civilized 

The f-word has become an "international" phrase.

It's so much used, that every monkey understands it.

It's not about "civilization". Civilizations degenerate from time to time. Including the "responses" in those situations.

The inflationary abuse of the word "respect", from apologists, in so many contexts, is also an indicator of this degeneration.

In short, societies are going with the dogs.

More or less everywhere.

 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 10:38 AM, dyertribe said:

There is no excuse for pack violence or even individual attacks.

Even still some people always gotta fark around and find out.

Rarely are the victims choirboys that are pure as the driven snow,

Possible but not probable.

 

Professors of the obvious gonna tell us violence is bad.

Thing is violence is often avoidable.

12 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Professors of the obvious gonna tell us violence is bad.

Thing is violence is often avoidable.

I agree, however, what level of violence is appropriate?  I do not see where any of the speculative examples as to what caused the violent reaction justify beating to an unconscious state