Trump Harris: Who won the debate ?

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

There were certainly some classic moments, nobody knew that entire populations of dogs and cats were being stir fried, and devoured in the Midwest by hungry and unruly immigrant populations. 

 

I was also unaware of the fact that Putin invaded Ukraine because the US withdrew from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment behind, that came as a surprise to me. I also thought it was $7 billion worth of equipment, but Trump insisted it was $85 billion. 

 

I also found the claim that Russia will exit Ukraine either right after Trump is elected or possibly even before he even takes office, rather impressive. 

 

I was also very surprised to learn that if Harris gets elected Israel will cease to exist as a state within 24 months. 

 

I was also shocked to learn that both Harris and her father are practicing Marxists. 

 

I was shocked to hear Trump's claim of Biden creating the highest unemployment since the Great Depression, however I looked it up and it was actually Trump that had 14.8%. Granted, some of that was due to Covid. 

 

I was very surprised to hear that they had a baby execution system in place in Virginia, however I looked into it and found out it was a statement that the former Governor, who is a doctor, had made about a nonviable fetus which is born, and then rather than put it on a useless life support system, the parent decides to let it go. I guess I understand the confusion as Trump himself doesn't really know where he stands on abortion, and since not putting a baby on life support which is not going to live anyway would not be considered an abortion that even adds to his confusion. 

 

I had no idea that Harris wants to support transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison that was absolutely shocking news that an ever reliable and honest Trump delivered. 

 

It was very refreshing to hear that Trump still has the biggest rallies in the history of politics and that nobody ever leaves his rallies early out of boredom. 

 

I had no idea that the companies that Trump imposed tariffs on, while he was president, paid the actual tariff on products that were imported into the US. That came as a complete surprise to me, I thought it was the American consumers that were paying the whole time. And I also thought it contributed to inflation, and helped to start the current inflationary cycle. 

 

It was very shocking and alarming to hear that the immigrants that are coming into the US are coming directly from prisons and mental institutions. I had no idea that all these countries were emptying out their prisons and mental institutions and directing those people to travel to the US. 

 

I was shocked to hear that Harris was responsible for the January 6th attack on the capitol and that Nancy Pelosi did a poor job with security, so I had to look into it again, and I found out that the speaker of the house has no capacity when it comes to Capital Security, nor does she have any capacity to turn down a request for National guardsman. 

 

Good try Big Don. I guess you still don't understand that truth is truth, and facts are facts. Fortunately, some of us have access to the internet, and can look up the details. 

 

 

 

The summation is just another frightning part about who and why MAGA are just the worst

[Danderman123]

22 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Well I know they eat dogs in the village here in the North. And The USA in reality is a third world country. So they probably do eat dogs in Springfield, where ever that is. They mean the Haitian migrants, don't they? lol 

 

Actually I couldn't care less. The USA is so efed up. They efed the world now they fu....K themselves also. That's the American dream! 5555  

In other words, you have no evidence that Haitian immigrants are eating dogs in Springfield.

 

BTW, do you think Trump won the debate?

[Danderman123]

28 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Seems it's false. Where are you on other cultures known to eat dogs ? Which is fact.

You are deflecting now.

 

 

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

There was a debate ... 

 

Oh yea, today is the 11th.   I am so tuned into USA politics 

 

Assuming from the first sentence of the OP, this will be just another Trump bashing thread.

 

ENJOY

Do you think Trump won the debate?

 

Please don't respond with excuses why he lost.

[stats]

Another post with an unsourced, no weblink photo has been removed.

 

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

The Washington Post reported soon after the debate ended, “The Democrat’s campaign plans to announce after Tuesday’s debate a desire for a second meetup with the GOP nominee before the November elections, according to a person familiar with the plan who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal deliberations. The decision to request another debate was made before both candidates took the stage Tuesday night.”

I don't think the Harris team will follow through on a second debate.

 

Nor do I think that Trump will want a second debate. He's focused on his plan to screw up the election certification by legal maneuvers, obstruction by bureaucrats and violence.

[spidermike007]

43 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Mike this comment is even more ridiculous than trumps. Where did anyone say the entire population. You simply added that to an already strange subject.

When a man behaves as Trump behaves, and when a man says such utterly ridiculous garbage as this man consistently says, when he lies and distorts facts to the extent this imbecile does, he invites satire. This post was pure satire. Surely you understand that? 

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

It was very shocking and alarming to hear that the immigrants that are coming into the US are coming directly from prisons and mental institutions. I had no idea that all these countries were emptying out their prisons and mental institutions and directing those people to travel to the US. 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO the MAGA crowd and Trump have missed out on a big opportunity.

 

Before releasing prisoners and mental patients, they are implanted with a chip supplied by Bill Gates, which compels them to head north until they are 200 miles north of the Tropic of Cancer.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the MAGA crowd and Trump have missed out on a big opportunity.

 

Before releasing prisoners and mental patients, they are implanted with a chip supplied by Bill Gates, which compels them to head north until they are 200 miles north of the Tropic of Cancer.

 

No Musk has the chips for that....make another little killing.

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I don't think the Harris team will follow through on a second debate.

They don't need to because trump lost that debate Bigly, and some. No need to offer him another chance, but just keep on doing what they are doing and make him look the liar and fool that he is.

[marin]

2 hours ago, CharlieKo said:

What a complete joke of a debate ABC were on Harris's side. She was lying or telling half truths through out the debate. I wonder just how many dumb voters will vote for her. America truly deserves who ever is voted in as President. How you could allow such a situation where two idiots are candidates for president. I shall never understand. Of course you Americans see nothing wrong with the situation. Which again confirms just how dumb American votes are. You are blinded by your own hate towards one or other candidate. You are blind to the reality of what you are about to do in November!

 

What a joke. 555555   

The joke is a non American getting so worked up. What's it to you? Or are you just having fun showing what a racist you are?

Didn't even have to mention politics with you....

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, maesariang said:

Bs

 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biggest-loser-trump-harris-debate

Well Fox is still doing their best to defend Trump and his policies, but when Trump fails as miserably as he did during the debate, they simply have to speak some truth in order to retain some credibility with their viewers. 

 

They are correct in stating that Harris was very effective in goading Trump into losing his cool and going completely off the rails, they are also correct in saying that he never smiles (and that he appears to be a very bitter and grumpy man).

 

Harris won handily. Now let's see if it makes a difference with the undecided voters, the polls over the next few weeks should be quite fascinating. 

[Jingthing]

Anyone that claims Trump won this debate has no credibility the same as anyone who claimed Biden won the last debate.

 

As far as another debate which Harris has proposed Trump will avoid that like the plague.

Edited September 11 by Jingthing

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

Well it is funny the Democrats tried to keep RFK.j of the ballot in certain swing states, and failed. Only now that he wants to be removed from the ballot in those swing states the democrats are refusing to remove his name! Who mentioned rigging an election?

My guess is the people who funded his campaign, they being the same people who are funding Trump’s.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rfk-donations-timothy-mellon-fec-1872315

Edited September 11 by Chomper Higgot

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, TimBKK said:

Trump seemed so, so, so very un-Presidential - a rather strange thing to say about a former President.  
 

There wasn’t much substance from either, but Harris was much more poised and rose to the moment, I thought.  
 

In the end, Trump floundered badly and left the viewers with all of the worst that he has to offer and none of the good (if there is any).

 

The election is so close that even swings of tenths of a percent can be impactful and I suspect that the pendulum continues to swing towards Harris, more so after the debate.

 

 

You certainly raise an interesting point, there's nothing about him that's presidential, and there was nothing about him that was presidential during the four years he was president. He was truly a disgrace to the office with the way that he behaves, and the extraordinary lack of dignity, grace, and elegance the man possesses.

 

At this point it's really just a question of the independents and the ones who are undecided, because it just does not seem like anything that happens, or anything he says is going to sway them. They're going to support him come hell or high water. 

 

They are defending the nation against communism!! 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Was at the beginning on the Covid pandemic. Trump  was conned and said...

 

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/trump-thanks-chinas-xi-jinping-for-handling-of-coronavirus.html

That was just one tiny instance that demonstrated an astonishing degree of ignorance that this man carried around every day while President, he refused to read the daily briefings, he refused to take the word of his National Security advisors, and he refused to listen to his military experts. Why? Because he always knows best, because he's always the smartest man in the room. That's what made him such an incredibly dangerous man, and that's just one of the reasons why he must be prevented from another 4 years. 

 

 

[Danderman123]

It will be interesting to see how the mainline polls respond to the debate.

 

I would be surprised if the margin for Harris didn't expand to 5%, or outside the margin of error.

 

Given Trump's failure to develop an operational campaign, it's going to be tough for Trump to overcome 5%. With the FBI watching the Russians closely, I don't think they can help Trump much.

[spidermike007]

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the MAGA crowd and Trump have missed out on a big opportunity.

 

Before releasing prisoners and mental patients, they are implanted with a chip supplied by Bill Gates, which compels them to head north until they are 200 miles north of the Tropic of Cancer.

That's a good one, this situation is so bizarre that it demands comic relief. When you have two inferior candidates, and one absolute goon, it must be looked at with a sense of humor, so thanks for that. 

[candide]

It was so easy for Harris, who's not the most talented debater, to lead Trump where she wanted. After seing that, it's frightening to imagine how foreign leaders could fool a weak Trump  in case he would be elected! 😀 

Edited September 11 by candide

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

I remember the left were also claiming Biden did great against Trump. He was gone 2 weeks later.

 

Gaslighting. It's what the left do.

 

As a neutral observer I can say it was fairly even until the closing arguments, then Trump pulled away. 

You seem to live in an alternate universe.

 

You really believe Trump won the debate?

[proton]

1 hour ago, Thailand said:

One of my favs:

 

“Trump paid Stormy $130K to spank him, Kamala did it tonight for free. “

 

Clinton paid more and even got sucked off by an intern in the oval office, poor old Hillary must have been doing something wrong!

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, maesariang said:

Bs

 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biggest-loser-trump-harris-debate

Whatever the validity of the critique, it hardly was an endorsement of Trump's performance. Did you actually read it?

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, maesariang said:

You mean the bribes from mic and big pharma

Becauise Big Pharma hates Trump for reneging on his promise to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices?

[placeholder]

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[stoner]

59 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are deflecting now.

 

 

How ? I answered your question and you didn't answer mine. You have a strange definition of deflection. 

 

But go on.

[kickstart]

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

During the debate, Trump stated, "In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs. The people that came in, they’re eating the cats." 

https://www.fox29.com/news/trump-false-claims-migrants-eating-pets

 

 

Did Trump mean that the non-immigrants in Springfield were eating dogs and the immigrants were eating cats? Does this mean that Trump thinks it's OK to eat dogs but not cats? I know he likes McDonalds but this dog-eating thing reveals a whole new side to Donald.

Listening to the radio this morning this come up, my first thought was it Springfield where The Simpsons lived?,   what Trump said, is about what one of the Simpsons would say.

[Will B Good]

“I was not a Taylor Swift fan,” he said. “It was just a question of time. She couldn’t possibly endorse Biden… 

 

Trump said he preferred Brittany Mahomes, wife of Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. “I like Brittany, I think Brittany’s great,” he said. “Brittany got a lot of news last week, she’s a big MAGA fan, that’s the one I like much better than Taylor Swift.”

 

He is like a five year old in the playground.

[Cameroni]

Can I just ask: 

 

Does anyone remember seeing Harris win any of the arguments/exchanges?

 

Like when Trump responded at the very end to Kamala saying I will do this and I will do that  and Trump replied "So, she just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that, she's going to do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for 3 1/2 years. They've had 3 1/2 years to fix the border. They've had 3 1/2 years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful white house, go to the capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do. But you haven't done it. And you won't do it.".

 

That was clearly a case of Trump winning an argument/exchange. 

 

Were there any where Harris won?

[stoner]

49 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

When a man behaves as Trump behaves, and when a man says such utterly ridiculous garbage as this man consistently says, when he lies and distorts facts to the extent this imbecile does, he invites satire. This post was pure satire. Surely you understand that? 

 

Nost of your posts are quite critical Mike so that's why I could of misconstrued.

[maesariang]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

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