Why Men Are Rejecting Marriage

[gamb00ler]

On 9/27/2024 at 8:23 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Marriage was a good idea when the wife had to stay home to look after the kids and cook the meals while husband worked.

 

It's a bad idea now that only benefits women, IMO.

 

Who would drive a car if there was a 50% chance of dying in an accident?

Most driving accidents are caused by lack of attention.....same for most divorces.  Lack of attention while choosing a mate followed by more lack of attention to issues after marriage.  Great reductions in both accidents and divorces are not that difficult.

[mfd101]

18 hours ago, theblether said:

The effects of the Age of Isolation have already started. The second half of this century will be a catastrophe as literally you'll pick up the phone and no one will be there to help you. Four hour waits for ambulances are now the norm, two weeks to see a GP. 

But not if you've married happily in to a large Thai Khmer peasant family ...

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/27/2024 at 3:57 PM, KhunLA said:

Not sure it's all about men rejecting marriage.  May be more about women being self sufficient, and realizing, they don't need men as past generations thought they did.

 

I found independent, self sufficient woman putting off marriage, family life & kids till much later, if at all.

Educated women are far more likely to reject marriage in favour of a career than uneducated women.

For proof see Japan and Singapore where women are choosing to remain unmarried and childless.

The problem for the countries in question is that the children that are being born are to less educated parents, with problems in the future.

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, theblether said:

The effects of the Age of Isolation have already started. The second half of this century will be a catastrophe as literally you'll pick up the phone and no one will be there to help you. Four hour waits for ambulances are now the norm, two weeks to see a GP. 

Caused by overpopulation. Also Drs have had enough of the heavy workloads and abusive patients, as have nurses and anyone having to deal with the dregs of humanity.

[FruitPudding]

Choice 1: be a free man

Choice 2: suffer the Ways of Ploy

 

Easy choice, if you have half a brain.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

You mean she is drudge that you can bully and control....you sound a real keeper.

You troll and post snarky comments everywhere dont you?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

As most of us are a victim of the western marriage laws that are totally biased towards women in the west.  Most of us have come here (and other SEAsian countries) because we can either remain single, and/or we can build a relationship with a women (or whatever) that has old school values.  We currently live in a gated community in Isaan - the vast majority of the women living here stay home and look after the kids - the way it was when we were kids - and the way it is supposed to be IMO.  Feminism has caused the problems the west for many reasons, one of them being because of their total and utter focus on getting things for the women - often at the expense of the men. 

 

The guy is the video has summarised the problem very well. If I was a young man in the west I would not get married either. I would work and save/invest, have fun and do things with my single mates, and then when wealthy enough - retire early and move overseas and find a partner that has the values I want to 'invest in'. Many will stay home country and do everything I said, except not go overseas. Nowadays they have seen what happens to so many men (thanks to social media) and they now ask themselves why buy and risk so much, when it is better/safer to rent.

 

One poster has already stated what IMO will the Answer - if you can call it an answer - more a prediction.  Robots will be developed that are more than willing to perform the roles that a man wants - there is already a huge demand for such a thing, and that will only increase over time.  ASt that time in the future, IMO the choice for men in that future will be - Pick a partner and get married and have kid/s and see what happens (hope) - OR stay single and dont marry, with the plan to move with your money to a 'better' culture/society with marriage laws that are at least even - OR stay single and dont marry with the plan to get yourself a robot or prostitutes (or both).  Women will be less needed in the future - only for those that want kids - they are sewing the seeds of their own destruction right now and they just cannot see it.  

[john donson]

bad deal... lose house, car, savings, pay alimony even she works, child support if any, not seen your kids or very little... better go to unemployment directly

[Dr Jon]

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

...by the way, who invented prostitution?

 

The difference between sex you pay for and 'free sex' is... sex you pay for works out a lot cheaper in the long run.

[Presnock]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:57 AM, KhunLA said:

Not sure it's all about men rejecting marriage.  May be more about women being self sufficient, and realizing, they don't need men as past generations thought they did.

 

I found independent, self sufficient woman putting off marriage, family life & kids till much later, if at all.

 

Unskilled, unmotivated woman seem to look forward to being married ... until they realize ... oops, and want out.  Then that 50/50 piece of paper comes in real handy.

 

75/25 if they popped out a few rug rats 

 

RUN FORREST RUN

Yes I recently have read about the declining birthrates in many countries, (i.e. thailand, S. Korea, Japan, etc) and the sociologists opine  that much of this has been caused by the UN's programs on female equality and push for them to be more independent since the late 1900's.  It has worked!  Women are firmly entrenched in the workforce of many countries, like the idea of some independence from male authority and equal in earning capability.  As such, after the pandemic caused shutdowns around the world, economies are suffering.  Women don't want to be burdened with a child or children to care for, men sure don't want that responsibility lashed onto their backs, so marriage is now alien to those younger generations as they both men and women struggle to find a job just to survive so no kids, no marriages and soon, other

 countries will be like Japan - having to call retirees back to work just to keep businesses open.   Is easier divorce a solution?  I don't think so but I am old and think old fashiion wise but I haven't ever thought about divorce as I am happy.  

[koolkarl]

As per Mick Jagger, being married is like being in jail.  It costs nothing to get into and a fortune to get out of.

[Stevemercer]

I'm not so sure. Look at Thailand which has no effective mandated child support. A Thai man can leave his wife and not give her anything, let alone child support. In fact, most seem to adandon all child support. So many single Mums. My wife's brother married 7 times, had 5 children and never paid anything. He was a rich man, but maybe karma caught up in the end becasue he died alone and in poverty.

 

I'm just saying most marriage are ended by the man. Most men would pay nothing to their ex if they had a choice.

 

 

 

 

[radiochaser]

15 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

As most of us are a victim of the western marriage laws that are totally biased towards women in the west.  Most of us have come here (and other SEAsian countries) because we can either remain single, and/or we can build a relationship with a women (or whatever) that has old school values.  We currently live in a gated community in Isaan - the vast majority of the women living here stay home and look after the kids - the way it was when we were kids - and the way it is supposed to be IMO.  Feminism has caused the problems the west for many reasons, one of them being because of their total and utter focus on getting things for the women - often at the expense of the men. 

 

The guy is the video has summarised the problem very well. If I was a young man in the west I would not get married either. I would work and save/invest, have fun and do things with my single mates, and then when wealthy enough - retire early and move overseas and find a partner that has the values I want to 'invest in'. Many will stay home country and do everything I said, except not go overseas. Nowadays they have seen what happens to so many men (thanks to social media) and they now ask themselves why buy and risk so much, when it is better/safer to rent.

 

One poster has already stated what IMO will the Answer - if you can call it an answer - more a prediction.  Robots will be developed that are more than willing to perform the roles that a man wants - there is already a huge demand for such a thing, and that will only increase over time.  ASt that time in the future, IMO the choice for men in that future will be - Pick a partner and get married and have kid/s and see what happens (hope) - OR stay single and dont marry, with the plan to move with your money to a 'better' culture/society with marriage laws that are at least even - OR stay single and dont marry with the plan to get yourself a robot or prostitutes (or both).  Women will be less needed in the future - only for those that want kids - they are sewing the seeds of their own destruction right now and they just cannot see it.  

I'm not a victim of western marriage laws.  The woman I was married to left me for someone else.   I petitioned the court, in California, for an annulment of the marriage.   The judge granted the annulment!

I also married a woman from Thailand.   As opposed to another's comment about Thai's being a drudge that can be bullied and controlled, my wife is a self motivated hard working individual, that will not be bullied, asks for advice but does what she decides to do, and does not take poo from anyone.   She now owns and runs a business that has a gross income of over $1,200,000.00  USD  a year.  We have been married for more than 30 years.     

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

I'm just saying most marriage are ended by the man. Most men would pay nothing to their ex if they had a choice.

One needs to look at why men end their marriages and IMO it's because the women stop having sex. IMO men don't have affairs because the new woman is better, but because the new woman actually has sex.

I'd never have left my first partner if she hadn't turned our relationship into a no sex zone. More fool her.

The next guy ( it was a miracle, but her sex drive returned when she needed to trap another man ) lasted even less time than I when she tried the same BS on him.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

I'm just saying most marriage are ended by the man. Most men would pay nothing to their ex if they had a choice.

 

Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman that a man will support a women in her need to have children, and in return she will have sex with him. When women don't fulfill their side of the bargain, they don't deserve half of everything. Unfortunately, western law is biased against men when it comes to marriage.

Perhaps all men getting married need to rent the house and lease the car, so the gold digger doesn't get it all when she stops living up to her side of the contract.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman that a man will support a women in her need to have children, and in return she will have sex with him. When women don't fulfill their side of the bargain, they don't deserve half of everything. Unfortunately, western law is biased against men when it comes to marriage.

Perhaps all men getting married need to rent the house and lease the car, so the gold digger doesn't get it all when she stops living up to her side of the contract.

That will be news to those in same sex marriages.

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One needs to look at why men end their marriages and IMO it's because the women stop having sex. IMO men don't have affairs because the new woman is better, but because the new woman actually has sex.

I'd never have left my first partner if she hadn't turned our relationship into a no sex zone. More fool her.

The next guy ( it was a miracle, but her sex drive returned when she needed to trap another man ) lasted even less time than I when she tried the same BS on him.

Sounds like you're projecting your personal experience to the rest of the entire world.  Also -- TMI. 

[wombat]

Fir the Same old argument that's been around since the 60's when the pill appeared.

Marriage was the only way to stop inbreeding....it would seem that some cults didn't get the memo.

[wombat]

2 hours ago, radiochaser said:

The woman I was married to left me for someone else

Let me give you some of my clarity.

After 15 years the emotional vampire that was gaslighting me, left in the same way that I found her.

Whenever I see an ice cube with a hole in it I am reminded of her.

 

[zakalwe]

Marriage is the equivalent of buying a 747 to get the peanuts.

[ravip]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:32 AM, Hanaguma said:

Women are realizing too late that they have been lied to by modern feminizm.  Delaying marriage to have a 'fulfilling' life and career is not the ticket to happiness. Neither is having a string of meaningless relationships and then waking up in their mid to late 30s suddenly bit by the marriage bug.  

 

Fact seems to be that men really don't care about a woman's career or earnings. They prefer their partners to be fit, feminine, friendly, and agreeable. Women don't get this. They try to 'girl boss' too much.   It IS possible to balance career and home if done properly, but it requires sacrifice from both partners. 

 

Hence the growth of "passport bros" who travel abroad to seek partners who match their needs. 

Fact seems to be that men really don't care about a woman's career or earnings. They prefer their partners to be fit, feminine, friendly, and agreeable. Women don't get this. They try to 'girl boss' too much.   It IS possible to balance career and home if done properly, but it requires sacrifice from both partners.

 

Short and sweet, you've stated the fact!

 

Hence the growth of "passport bros" who travel abroad to seek partners who match their needs.

 

Here things are different.

The "passport bros" (majority) seems to be finding an "object" that obeys their orders without questioning - not a woman, per se.

IMHO

 

[radiochaser]

2 hours ago, wombat said:

Let me give you some of my clarity.

After 15 years the emotional vampire that was gaslighting me, left in the same way that I found her.

Whenever I see an ice cube with a hole in it I am reminded of her.

 

Hmmmmm?   Emotional vampire?     Yesssssss.  Someone else I knew called her a succubus.   So it was more than emotions.
But the good thing is, legally, we were never married!    And she got no money from me when it ended.  😁

[Cameroni]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One needs to look at why men end their marriages and IMO it's because the women stop having sex. IMO men don't have affairs because the new woman is better, but because the new woman actually has sex.

I'd never have left my first partner if she hadn't turned our relationship into a no sex zone. More fool her.

The next guy ( it was a miracle, but her sex drive returned when she needed to trap another man ) lasted even less time than I when she tried the same BS on him.

 

That's often true, but the real conundrum is why do we marry some women and not others?

 

What makes us want to run the risk of marriage with this particular woman?

 

What are we really after? What are we seeing in this particular one?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

7 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I'm not a victim of western marriage laws.  The woman I was married to left me for someone else.   I petitioned the court, in California, for an annulment of the marriage.   The judge granted the annulment!

I also married a woman from Thailand.   As opposed to another's comment about Thai's being a drudge that can be bullied and controlled, my wife is a self motivated hard working individual, that will not be bullied, asks for advice but does what she decides to do, and does not take poo from anyone.   She now owns and runs a business that has a gross income of over $1,200,000.00  USD  a year.  We have been married for more than 30 years.     

Well good for you.   What part of 'most of us' did you not understand?

Clearly the wife is the brains of the operation. 

Edited September 29 by TroubleandGrumpy

[Inderpland]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One needs to look at why men end their marriages and IMO it's because the women stop having sex. IMO men don't have affairs because the new woman is better, but because the new woman actually has sex.

I'd never have left my first partner if she hadn't turned our relationship into a no sex zone. More fool her.

The next guy ( it was a miracle, but her sex drive returned when she needed to trap another man ) lasted even less time than I when she tried the same BS on him.

Or maybe you just couldn't deliver the goods anymore.

[Inderpland]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman that a man will support a women in her need to have children, and in return she will have sex with him.

With that kind of attitude I can see why you wife left you.

[Purdey]

The first world war dragged men off to be killed and women took their places in the ammunition and weapons factories. This led to women demanding the vote. 

The second world war did the same and women learned they didn't need men to take care of them financially.

If a woman can take care of herself why marry?

 

Edited September 29 by Purdey

[Kinok Farang]

On 9/27/2024 at 3:44 PM, save the frogs said:

just came across a youtube vlogger based in romania.

claims eastern european women are way better than american women for marriage. 

Any women are better than the American version.

[Kinok Farang]

3 hours ago, Inderpland said:

With that kind of attitude I can see why you wife left you.

How very modern.An Aseannow feminist.

[MalcolmB]

Personally I find modern women to be too promiscuous to marry.

Why would you want to marry someone who had sex with others and is cum stained?

I nearly married a slut but luckily came to my senses. I think she took advantage of me during Covid.

 

Now I am just reverting back to when I was younger and just do as many as I can. 
If I found a virgin I probably would marry her if I got along with her.

 

I know a few exes of mine married and now divorced. I got to use her the same way and didn’t have to give her half my stuff when it was over.