10 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Not like the independent media in Russia, is it Frank!

YES, i support Putin, i dont think i need to clarify that again. seems you can't handle that fact for some reason. 

14 hours ago, impulse said:

 

They rioted for about a week, and all over the country.  Burning and looting against innocent people and their businesses who had absolutely nothing to do with Hillary taking the L.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/13/us/protests-elections-trump/index.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/09/501513889/anti-trump-protests-break-out-in-cities-across-the-country

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-trump-protests-carry-on-for-fourth-straight-day-after-election/

 

 

I read the first 4 URLs. None of the actual violence was attributed to Clinton supporters, but fringe groups such as anarchists who could reasonable be defined as radical left. I suggest rioters would mainly be opportunistic criminally motivated for theft, anarchists etc, not motivated by Clinton's loss. If you have credible source information confirming actual Clinton voters rioted  / were violent please post; repeat credible, 

27 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

YES, i support Putin, i dont think i need to clarify that again. seems you can't handle that fact for some reason. 

 

Then you are identifying yourself as an enemy of Western democratic policies / institutions; is that correct?

19 hours ago, G_Money said:

I’m actually looking for one in Pattaya on Election Day.

 

Not the baseball type but the floppy hat type.

 

 I have no desire to wear the Michael Moore staple.

 

 

Pretty dumb idea bringing your politics overseas like that and making yourself a target.  I have openly mocked people in MAGA hats or with Trump t-shirts in Thailand and the Philippines. You don't see us walking around in Harris/Biden shirts because we are not in a cult, so we don't feel the need to do dumb tribal stuff like that.  Especially in a foreign country.

5 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Pretty dumb idea bringing your politics overseas like that and making yourself a target.  I have openly mocked people in MAGA hats or with Trump t-shirts in Thailand and the Philippines. There are probably a lot of people around who would fell motivated enough to do even more than just mock.  You don't see us walking around in Harris/Biden shirts because we are not in a cult, so we don't feel the need to do dumb stuff like that.

Yeah.

I saw one guy with the maga fascist hat in Pattaya.

An angry young white man type.

I did roll my eyes without comment but he picked that up and starting yelling at me, trying to start a fight.

36 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Pretty dumb idea bringing your politics overseas like that and making yourself a target.  I have openly mocked people in MAGA hats or with Trump t-shirts in Thailand and the Philippines. You don't see us walking around in Harris/Biden shirts because we are not in a cult, so we don't feel the need to do dumb tribal stuff like that.  Especially in a foreign country.

A target?  By who?  A crazy Harris supporter such as yourself.

 

Locals could care less.

 

I would look forward to telling you or anyone else making a comment regarding my freedom of speech to F off.

 

“Freedom of Speech.  Don’t forget it.”

 

A quote by your fellow leftist @Danderman123.  He believes in free speech.

 

Why don’t you?

21 minutes ago, G_Money said:

A target?  By who?  A crazy Harris supporter such as yourself.

 

Locals could care less.

 

I would look forward to telling you or anyone else making a comment regarding my freedom of speech to F off.

 

“Freedom of Speech.  Don’t forget it.”

 

A quote by your fellow leftist @Danderman123.  He believes in free speech.

 

Why don’t you?

Are you also an ex navy seal?  Seems to be a lot of those around too. 

 

Most of the trumpers I see around town can barely get up off the barstool and are all talk.  Just like their convicted felon hitler loving orange hero.

7 hours ago, impulse said:

As stupid as January 6 turned out, there's a rationality to protesting where there's a chance of influencing change. 

 

"where there's a chance of influencing change" - whoa whoa how? by hanging Mike Pence? Now, that definitely defines stupidity for me. MAGA should brand their own lack of critical thinking ( instead of listening to Trump's promise du jour, "Let's walk down the Capitol, I'll be right there with ya...") it should sell like hot cakes.

20 hours ago, G_Money said:

I’m actually looking for one in Pattaya on Election Day.

 

Not the baseball type but the floppy hat type.

 

 I have no desire to wear the Michael Moore staple.

 

 

It's technically possible not to wear any hat. That solves your problem of false dichotomy.

4 hours ago, watthong said:

 

The VoteVets ad, 4th one in I think, is on par with Apple "1984" ad, IMHO. It mentioned "American Carnage", the two words that have logged in my head since 2016 inaugural. Thanks a million, VoteVets.

 

 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Then you are identifying yourself as an enemy of Western democratic policies / institutions; is that correct?

Western bully tatcics, economic sanctions, military threats, theft of resorces, Yes.

Diplomacy, negotiations and peace, No

 

5 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Living outside of the US, this is the first time that I've seen a compilation of Democrat campaign ads, and I must say I was stunned by how good they were. I have been wondering what the Kamala Harris/Tim Walz campaign has been doing with all the money they've raised, and now I know. Very gratifying, and I now feel like the money I've donated has been put to good use.

 

4 hours ago, watthong said:

The VoteVets ad, 4th one in I think, is on par with Apple "1984" ad, IMHO. It mentioned "American Carnage", the two words that have logged in my head since 2016 inaugural. Thanks a million, VoteVets.

 

Here it is, the "American Carnage" ad (check VoteVets channel on youtube to watch their whole AT ***AntiTrump*** ad collection.)

 

 

29 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Are you also an ex navy seal?  Seems to be a lot of those around too. 

 

Most of the trumpers I see around town can barely get up off the barstool and are all talk.  Just like their convicted felon hitler loving orange hero.

You run into a lot of ex SEAL’s , not seal btw.  Educate yourself.

 

You always run in elite circles?

 

Most Trumpers I talk to are at the gym.

 

“Can barely get off the bar stool “. Lol

 

20 minutes ago, Guitar God said:

It's technically possible not to wear any hat. That solves your problem of false dichotomy.

Moore wears his stupid looking baseball hat 95% of the time.  Nothing false about that nor would I want to be affiliated with him. 

Violence against Trump.supporters will only escalate if he wins. Unlikely to happen given that the fix is rumoured to be in for Harris. 

15 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Moore wears his stupid looking baseball hat 95% of the time.  Nothing false about that nor would I want to be affiliated with him. 

Is your leader Trump's baseball hat stupid looking too......?   🤔

19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Try as I might, I can't remember Hilary Clinton supporters storming the Capitol.

naaaaa   just co-ordinated with the FBI to produce a phony document 

6 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Really?

The Cretans are a problem?

Send them back to Crete.

Did they bring their Minotaur?

Send that Minotaur back too.

😁

In my opinion if Trump and his ridiculous running mate Vance had simply gone home after his first debate with Harris, they would have had a better chance of winning on Tuesday. They both self sabotage every day. 

50 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Violence against Trump.supporters will only escalate if he wins. Unlikely to happen given that the fix is rumoured to be in for Harris. 

 

Who is circulating rumours of an electoral fix for Harris? trump has claimed if he loses the election has been corrupted, but if we wins all OK. Does that not strike you as an attempted political fix. trump has already established his MO for multiple channels for attempts of lawfare. He lost all 60 attempts last time round. Some light reading for you...

 

 the Republican Party once again assented to Trump’s de facto leadership of the party. He easily secured the Republican nomination—and he may well secure a second term. Even if he loses, the fact that he has been able to come so close to the nation’s highest office, after previously mounting an insurrection to illegally hold onto it, is a reflection of the profound failure of American institutions to meet the moment.

 

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-one-institution-that-checked-trump

23 hours ago, G_Money said:

Perfect example of the loving, compassionate and tolerance of the leftist.

 

 

 

 

Hmm, gues what? Put in place an authoritarian ruler, enable a right wing SCOTUS affirming his immunity … and this empathetic, educated, left of center American is not opposed to fighting as my DNA has done from bring the USA into being up until the present day. In supporting Trump and his Project 2025 ilk, the Social Contract that existed between us is broken. You want to tear down the existing USA due to your frustration/ager (which I share) … so sad. But Trump is definitely not the answer which will be historical lesson if he gains the White House … but it will be to late to address the existing ills … a whole new entity, for better or worse will arise from the ashes of burning down the current ideals (which money has corrupted).

13 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Hmm, gues what? Put in place an authoritarian ruler, enable a right wing SCOTUS affirming his immunity … and this empathetic, educated, left of center American is not opposed to fighting as my DNA has done from bring the USA into being up until the present day. In supporting Trump and his Project 2025 ilk, the Social Contract that existed between us is broken. You want to tear down the existing USA due to your frustration/ager (which I share) … so sad. But Trump is definitely not the answer which will be historical lesson if he gains the White House … but it will be to late to address the existing ills … a whole new entity, for better or worse will arise from the ashes of burning down the current ideals (which money has corrupted).

 

Where exactly are you roaming the streets?

 

Wow!  Pretty heavy stuff man.

 

Care to take a shot at this one @Lacessit

 

 

 

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Trump's voters do not take to violence because their champion did not get elected (if such happens)

 

If there is violence (we hope not), it will plainly be the outlet of years of anger, frustration and economic poverty that the Biden's cronies have implemented.

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33 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 

Where exactly are you roaming the streets?

 

Wow!  Pretty heavy stuff man.

 

Care to take a shot at this one @Lacessit

 

 

As a non-American, the sheer insanity of contemplating the return of a felon, sexual predator and fraudster to the most powerful position on the planet is mind-boggling. No other democracy in the world would do it.

 

Trump's principal skill seems to be in milking the American taxpayer every time he plays golf, and appointing sycophants to office.

 

It's the same problem Xi, Putin and Kim have. They will never be told the truth by underlings.

 

Permit me to doubt a guy who ticks nearly all the boxes of a narcissistic sociopath will ever have the ability to be a good leader. His whole shtick is based on lies, bigotry, racism and hatred.

 

I won't be roaming the streets. Like many others, if Trump gets in, it will be evidence America has gone mad.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

As a non-American, the sheer insanity of contemplating the return of a felon, sexual predator and fraudster to the most powerful position on the planet is mind-boggling. No other democracy in the world would do it.

 

Trump's principal skill seems to be in milking the American taxpayer every time he plays golf, and appointing sycophants to office.

 

It's the same problem Xi, Putin and Kim have. They will never be told the truth by underlings.

 

Permit me to doubt a guy who ticks nearly all the boxes of a narcissistic sociopath will ever have the ability to be a good leader. His whole shtick is based on lies, bigotry, racism and hatred.

 

I won't be roaming the streets. Like many others, if Trump gets in, it will be evidence America has gone mad.

So you were satisfied with his proper English, sentence structure and punctuation?

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

As a non-American, the sheer insanity of contemplating the return of a felon, sexual predator and fraudster to the most powerful position on the planet is mind-boggling. No other democracy in the world would do it.

 

Trump's principal skill seems to be in milking the American taxpayer every time he plays golf, and appointing sycophants to office.

 

It's the same problem Xi, Putin and Kim have. They will never be told the truth by underlings.

 

Permit me to doubt a guy who ticks nearly all the boxes of a narcissistic sociopath will ever have the ability to be a good leader. His whole shtick is based on lies, bigotry, racism and hatred.

 

I won't be roaming the streets. Like many others, if Trump gets in, it will be evidence America has gone mad.

Spot on...........

2 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

naaaaa   just co-ordinated with the FBI to produce a phony document 

Look over there. How novel.

4 hours ago, G_Money said:

A target?  By who?  A crazy Harris supporter such as yourself.

 

Locals could care less.

 

I would look forward to telling you or anyone else making a comment regarding my freedom of speech to F off.

 

“Freedom of Speech.  Don’t forget it.”

 

A quote by your fellow leftist @Danderman123.  He believes in free speech.

 

Why don’t you?

I would be delighted to see anyone in a MAGA hat or shirt.

 

It gives me fair warning to give them a wide berth, as I would a rabid soi dog.