Col(u)mbia sends its presidential planecollect worthless illegals after being spanked.

[Yellowtail]

Hard Ball: 

 

Rubio orders suspension of visa issuance at the US Embassy Bogota

 

 

 

 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

You think they are leg immigrants?  Or US citizens?

Like you, I have no idea.

 

The only thing I do know is that I cannot and will not take the word of an serial liar which is what Trump is.

 

It would have been a pleasant surprise if you had bothered to answer the question that I asked you, but I wasn't expecting you to answer it anyway.

[NickyLouie]

Trump is a fkin BOSS......

 

 

[BangkokReady]

38 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Like you, I have no idea.

 

The only thing I do know is that I cannot and will not take the word of an serial liar which is what Trump is.

 

It would have been a pleasant surprise if you had bothered to answer the question that I asked you, but I wasn't expecting you to answer it anyway.

 

Why would I answer your question properly when you didn't give a serious response to my comment?  What do you expect, you can be silly to others but then they have to take you seriously?

 

It seems that you want to be able to be silly to try to attack others, but then demand seriousness to make further attacks.  It all sounds a little manipulative and add homesque.

[bannork]

Donald, dumb as a doorpost.

"ICYMI President Donald J. Trump's TRUTH on Columbia sanctions," the  White House press release says, misspelling the nation's name.

Columbia is a university in New York City. Colombia is the country Donald Trump threatened today.

Thick as a brick.

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Donald, dumb as a doorpost.

"ICYMI President Donald J. Trump's TRUTH on Columbia sanctions," the  White House press release says, misspelling the nation's name.

Columbia is a university in New York City. Colombia is the country Donald Trump threatened today.

Thick as a brick.

Oh, thank goodness the spelling police are here! 

 

You guys spend four years flushing the country down the toilet and you caught Trump misspelling something. 

 

And it's a good bet you didn't catch it but read about on one of your America hating press sites. 

 

Meanwhile, Trump's deporting the criminals your guy let in, and the punk leader of Colombia is taking them back. 

 

Losers 

 

[Flyguy330]

We're clearly not getting the full story here from the MSM.

They report that the US deportation flights (military aircraft) were refused 'permission to land'.

That is not how things work. Those aircraft are required to file a FLIGHT PLAN with Air Traffic Control hours before even taking off. Since they are international flights crossing airspace borders they could have to be filed days in advance. Permission has to be given to cross airspace borders between nations. It's not like a bus, you don't just jump in and drive wherever the hell you like.

 

So, since the flight(s) got airborne, they had filed a flight plan, and been given clearance to depart for a specified landing airport in the destination country. This line that they were 'refused permission to land' implies that they were already IN Colombian airspace (perhaps even on final approach to land) when the prior approval was revoked, for flippant reasons (how would anyone on the ground know if the 'passengers' were being refused permission to go to the toilet for example, and so what!?).

 

'Refusing permission to land' to an aircraft already on approach to land, without a pressing safety or emergency reason, and having already 'accepted' the flight into the airspace, would be a major breach of aviation law and exceedingly dangerous. Aircraft can't stay airborne indefinitely. They carry fixed fuel amounts calculated on the duration of the flight plus small reserves for forced diversion to a neaby alternate airfield. What did the deportation flight(s) do if refused 'permission to land'? They would want to turnm around and fly home probably. But would they have the fuel for that? Perhaps, only if they had no plan to uplift fuel on the ground in Colombia. Who knows! did the personnel who 'refused permission to land' know the aircrafts fuel status? Or did they ignore the risk, and thereby endanger the lives of all onboard?

 

One option the USAAF pilots would have had was to declare a fuel emergency, and that would give them overriding priority to land. Why not?

 

I wonder if in fact these flights ever got airborne out of the US, and the refusal of 'permission to land' was in fact just a refusal to accept them at the flight planning stage.

 

Will the MSM ever print the facts?

 

[Walker88]

Under Biden, there were an average of two commercial flights a week bringing undocumented Colombians back home. The new President decided that using military C-17s looked cooler and more aggressive, and of course the coward is all about show.

 

The Colombian government objected to US MILITARY aircraft coming. Commercial craft was long okay.

 

47 then threatened Colombia with sanctions, and the price of coffee soared on commodity markets. I suspect there was also concern that Junior might have cried that his "habit" would cost more...sniff.....sniff.

 

This new POTUS doesn't seem to think ANYTHING through. In just one week he has alienated a good portion of the civilized world.

 

Here are some repercussions one should consider:

 

---China and Japan are discussing selling all of their US Treasury holdings, which amounts to $trillions. That could send US interest rates to the moon.

 

---China, Russia and other nations are talking about setting the yuan as the international currency to be used by the BRICS and even ASEAN, both in trade and as central bank reserves.

 

---The US imports 35% of its oil from Canada, along with lots of wood products. The 25% tariff that will go into effect Saturday is going to raise prices at the pump as well as the cost of housing.

 

---The US imports heavy crude from Mexico, needed by US refineries that crack that style of petroleum. It's going to cost more.

 

----Many US automakers source parts from factories in Mexico. Production is going to slow, likely with US auto workers being laid off. Apparently MAGAs think new US factories can be built and go into production in an afternoon, rather than years.

 

---The deportation orders have scared undocumented workers in the US. Yes, MAGAs, lots of undocumented people work, rather than rape and murder, as 47 likes to claim. Already many are not showing up to work, fearing capture and deportation. This is hitting the citrus groves, where it's harvest time. Expect prices at the grocery to surge.

 

---Undocumented migrants also work in US abattoirs, so if they stay off the job, the prices of pork, beet and chicken is going to go up a lot. Who is 47 going to blame when his KFC extra crispy bucket shoots up in price?

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Under Biden, there were an average of two commercial flights a week bringing undocumented Colombians back home. The new President decided that using military C-17s looked cooler and more aggressive, and of course the coward is all about show.

 

The Colombian government objected to US MILITARY aircraft coming. Commercial craft was long okay.

 

47 then threatened Colombia with sanctions, and the price of coffee soared on commodity markets. I suspect there was also concern that Junior might have cried that his "habit" would cost more...sniff.....sniff.

 

This new POTUS doesn't seem to think ANYTHING through. In just one week he has alienated a good portion of the civilized world.

 

Here are some repercussions one should consider:

 

---China and Japan are discussing selling all of their US Treasury holdings, which amounts to $trillions. That could send US interest rates to the moon.

 

---China, Russia and other nations are talking about setting the yuan as the international currency to be used by the BRICS and even ASEAN, both in trade and as central bank reserves.

 

---The US imports 35% of its oil from Canada, along with lots of wood products. The 25% tariff that will go into effect Saturday is going to raise prices at the pump as well as the cost of housing.

 

---The US imports heavy crude from Mexico, needed by US refineries that crack that style of petroleum. It's going to cost more.

 

----Many US automakers source parts from factories in Mexico. Production is going to slow, likely with US auto workers being laid off. Apparently MAGAs think new US factories can be built and go into production in an afternoon, rather than years.

 

---The deportation orders have scared undocumented workers in the US. Yes, MAGAs, lots of undocumented people work, rather than rape and murder, as 47 likes to claim. Already many are not showing up to work, fearing capture and deportation. This is hitting the citrus groves, where it's harvest time. Expect prices at the grocery to surge.

 

---Undocumented migrants also work in US abattoirs, so if they stay off the job, the prices of pork, beet and chicken is going to go up a lot. Who is 47 going to blame when his KFC extra crispy bucket shoots up in price?

You. and the left in general support open borders, mass migration, DEI programs and men that identify as women in girls' showers, women's sports and women's prisons, so it is understandable that you would be unhappy with Trump's policies. But the people mostly do not want those things. 

 

If the illegals are scared, let them stay home, lose their jobs and drive-up wages. If they can't afford to stay home until the next leftist takes office, maybe they'll self deport. Win-win.

 

Lower energy prices and lower corporate income taxes will drive costs down. Higher wages and lower personal income taxes will make things more affordable. 

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

21 hours ago, riclag said:

Daddy’s Home!

That is your daddy, oh no
My daddy can't be ugly so
Shut your mouth, go away
Mama, look a boo-boo dey
Shut your mouth, go away
Mama, look a boo-boo dey

 

-- courtesy Harry Belafonte 1957

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

But the people mostly do not want those things. 

Neither do 'the left'.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Neither do 'the left'.

I do not consider liberals and work-a-day Democrats part of the left. 

 

That said, many/most of them voted for exactly those things when they voted for Harris.

[stevenl]

28 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I do not consider liberals and work-a-day Democrats part of the left. 

 

That said, many/most of them voted for exactly those things when they voted for Harris.

No, they did not. Time for you to get a grip on reality.

[tai4de2]

20 hours ago, simon43 said:

Perhaps The UK should threaten France with tariffs if they don't take the illegals who left their safe shores back.  500% on imports of frogs' legs or something perhaps

 

Snails, cheese, and wine!

[tai4de2]

Leftists upset because CRIMINAL deportees were in handcuffs.

 

Does Brazil's da Silva imagine we'd send his criminals home in planes with lie-flat seats, paté de foie gras appetizers, and amenity kits with slippers and PJs? Maybe some friendly flight attendants to serve an aperitif, and hold the door open as passengers enter the lavatory?

 

LOL! Can't make this stuff up.

 

Of course, da Silva was probably projecting -- because like all leftists in power, he certainly imagines the above luxuries for himself at least.

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No, they did not. Time for you to get a grip on reality.

The reality is that Biden-Harris supported open borders, mass migration, DEI programs and allowing men that identify as women in girls' showers, women's sports and women's prisons. 

 

The open border and mass migration was inattentional, were all the DEI programs and trans-women issues. A Harris administration would likely have been even more supportive of all those things, and anyone that denies it is living in la la land. 

 

[spacex]

For those complaining, you could always invite these people to stay at your house on your dime.  Imagine how much fun it would be to have rapists and murderers staying at your house. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, spacex said:

For those complaining, you could always invite these people to stay at your house on your dime.  Imagine how much fun it would be to have rapists and murderers staying at your house. 

The illegals never live in the tony neighborhoods the left occupies, they only go there to clean their toilets. 

[illisdean]

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, thank goodness the spelling police are here! 

 

You guys spend four years flushing the country down the toilet and you caught Trump misspelling something. 

 

And it's a good bet you didn't catch it but read about on one of your America hating press sites. 

 

Meanwhile, Trump's deporting the criminals your guy let in, and the punk leader of Colombia is taking them back. 

 

Losers 

 

 

12 hours ago, bannork said:

Donald, dumb as a doorpost.

"ICYMI President Donald J. Trump's TRUTH on Columbia sanctions," the  White House press release says, misspelling the nation's name.

Columbia is a university in New York City. Colombia is the country Donald Trump threatened today.

Thick as a brick.

But "dumb Donald as a doorpost" DID NOT beat medicare BUT he did win an election for POTUS on Nov 5th. 

 

 

[illisdean]

Trump ask why Joe didn't pardon himself....maybe he just forgot OR maybe he thinks he's too mentally incompetent to face and indictment and trial? LOL...could get ugly REAL soon for Biden especially mow since members of his crime family who received preemptive presidential pardons dated back to Jan 2014 can be subpoenaed and compelled to testify against Biden but cannot plead the 5th amendment. Pam Bondi, Trumps nomination for AG if confirmed may investigate to find out just how corrupt and compromised Biden is and his own family may provide the evidence. LOL...I say bring it on. 

 

 

[Flyguy330]

Quote

 

Under Biden, there were an average of two commercial flights a week bringing undocumented Colombians back home. The new President decided that using military C-17s looked cooler and more aggressive, and of course the coward is all about show.

 

The Colombian government objected to US MILITARY aircraft coming. Commercial craft was long okay.

 

 

Yes I read that also - that these deportation flights have been operating on a weekly basis for years. So there's no fuss about the actual fact of deportations.

What I would like clarified is if the USAAF aircraft were "refused permission TO LAND" (maybe overhead the airport in Colombia) OR were they refused permission TO TAKE OFF in the first place? It's very important to know this because it completely alters the seriousness of the incident.

 

Quote

The Colombian government objected to US MILITARY aircraft coming. Commercial craft was long okay.

 

The fact that they were military flights doesn't make any difference. Military aircraft - of all nations - do hundreds of 'non-military' flight duties around the world every day. Airforce One is a military aircraft (the clue is in the name there). Humanitarian flights are often operated by military aircraft. They file flight plans and require permission.

So unless they are involved in an act of war there is no good justification for refusal to allow them operate, much less refuse 'permission to land' at the last minute.

The Colombians are at fault here.

[Flyguy330]

Quote

47 then threatened Colombia with sanctions, and the price of coffee soared on commodity markets. I suspect there was also concern that Junior might have cried that his "habit" would cost more...sniff.....sniff.

The balance of trade is hugely in favour of the US. Colombia markets vast amounts of its products in the US. I'm sure the US could survive without Colombian coffee for a wee while.

A reduction in drugs flowing over the border is one of Trump's stated priorities.

 

Quote

---China and Japan are discussing selling all of their US Treasury holdings, which amounts to $trillions. That could send US interest rates to the moon.

We've been hearing that threat for years. Still hasn't materialised. It's a double edged sword. If they start selling, their own holdings crash in value, wiping out their own treasuries.

 

Quote

---China, Russia and other nations are talking about setting the yuan as the international currency to be used by the BRICS and even ASEAN, both in trade and as central bank reserves.

Heard that for years too. Every economist says the Yuan in circulation isn't a fraction of what's needed to replace the dollar. Be careful what you wish for, because if you think replacing Trump and the US with Xi and China you are in for a nasty surprise. Check out what China is doing in the South China Sea right now. Just yesterday they drove off Philippine shipping from one of the Spratleys using military force, ramming the other vessels. A bit more 'confrontational' than sending a C130 full of deportees back to their homeland on a properly documented flight, don't you think?

Maybe you've never been to China or lived there long enough to know what its like.

I have.

 

Quote

---The US imports 35% of its oil from Canada, along with lots of wood products. The 25% tariff that will go into effect Saturday is going to raise prices at the pump as well as the cost of housing.

 

---The US imports heavy crude from Mexico, needed by US refineries that crack that style of petroleum. It's going to cost more.

True in the short term. In the long term that just gives his 'Drill Baby Drill' policy more justification and effect.

 

Quote

----Many US automakers source parts from factories in Mexico. Production is going to slow, likely with US auto workers being laid off. Apparently MAGAs think new US factories can be built and go into production in an afternoon, rather than years.

I suppose they'll get jobs picking the cotton etc after the immigrants all leave.

 

Quote

---The deportation orders have scared undocumented workers in the US. Yes, MAGAs, lots of undocumented people work, rather than rape and murder, as 47 likes to claim. Already many are not showing up to work, fearing capture and deportation. This is hitting the citrus groves, where it's harvest time. Expect prices at the grocery to surge.

---Undocumented migrants also work in US abattoirs, so if they stay off the job, the prices of pork, beet and chicken is going to go up a lot. Who is 47 going to blame when his KFC extra crispy bucket shoots up in price?

Luckily I don't live in the US. No skin off my nose.

 

As other posters here have said already - the American people were faced with a 5hitty choice - Bombast Trump, or Genocide Joe and his Marxist cohort. I don't have a US vote, but given that choice I'd have held my nose and voted Trump, knowing full well that the next 4 years would be like. At least the Woke Brigade would be ditched fast, as is happening.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/27/2025 at 1:56 PM, ricklev said:

Are they really criminals?  What did they do that makes them "worthless"?  I am genuinely curious and could not find any information about that online.   

Criminals are generally worthless. If not caught cause trouble, and if caught cost a great deal to prosecute and imprison.

 

The best way to get rid of them is to make it likely they will be deported without the shennanigans that have been allowing them to stay in the US while waiting for a court case. If do that likely many will self deport.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Flyguy330 said:

Will the MSM ever print the facts?

Only if they fit the MSM narrative, IMO.

[simple1]

It's now been clarified in the media, as posted above, that two deportee flights a week were agreed between the US and Colombia. The issue which created the upset was trump coming into power and the deportees then being handcuffed. The Colombian President took offence to the change in process which has now been resolved. One assumes that deportees are no longer hand cuffed so a "win" for Colombia, not for the US.

[sqwakvfr]

Now even Dr. Phil is on illegal immigrant raids:

 

[Flyguy330]

OK, I finally went to a reputable aviation website about this controversy. 'Air andSpace Forces' magazine.

It clarifies that two C17's took off - with the proper clearances to land in Colombia - but their permission to enter Colombian airspace was 'revoked' before they reached the FIR boundary.

So there was no 'refused permission to land' during final approach, they were 'refused entry'.

 

A quote from the article states:

 

“It is the responsibility of each nation to take back their citizens who are illegally present in the United States in a serious and expeditious manner,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement. “Colombian President Petro had authorized flights and provided all needed authorizations and then canceled his authorization when the planes were in the air.”

 

The link to the article is here: https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-c-17s-first-deportation-flights-guatemala/

 

Refusal of entry is less of a problem than refusal to land at a late stage in the flight, but still highly irregular without serious valid justification.

 

[illisdean]

Trump Effect

 

 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

Trump Effect

 

 

 

 

 

Is this about E Jean Carroll?

 

 

 

[ricklev]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Criminals are generally worthless. If not caught cause trouble, and if caught cost a great deal to prosecute and imprison.

 

The best way to get rid of them is to make it likely they will be deported without the shennanigans that have been allowing them to stay in the US while waiting for a court case. If do that likely many will self deport.

I have never read a single specific example of any crime the Colombians committed or any shenanigans  allowing them to stay in the US while waiting for a court case.  But I am happy to be educated.  Could you please provide an example.