Thailand's Digital Card Chaos: Say Goodbye to TM6, Hello to Confusion!

[ChrisY1]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Japan has  a paper system for the lazy / stupid / progress resistant people. It is also a backuop system should the Visit Japan system fail. The paper people are directed to lines where they can stand and wait. The evisa pax breeze through customs and immigration. In my case it took 10 minutes including the lines at HND.

 

The days of saying no to a mobile device are over. Consider it a requirement to travel no different than visas and passports. Within the next 5 years, flying will depend upon E boarding passes and e linked  boarding gates.  It is happening now. There are no longer paper airline tickets. It is an eticket. A small group of  technology resistant people  cannot  be allowed to disrupt security and efficiency for others.  These are the same people who delay boarding because they don't have a passport and boarding pass ready to present at the gate, or who demand to board early because they are old, despite  paying for and sitting in zone 5.

Just travelled to and from Japan...Narita in bound and Haneda outbound....passport scan and 2 index finger scan....20 seconds

[Jumbo1968]

No more TM30s required ?

[kwilco]

Where do I access the TDAC form? - I've looked on the e-Visa site ad there is no mention.

 

it's here - https://tdac.in.th/

 

or here - https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home

 

but not on the e-visa site as previously stated....

 

 

 

[Upnotover]

5 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

No more TM30s required ?

Of course they are, unrelated.

[kwilco]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

Look, when e-tickets replaced paper tickets, people came up with the same kind of argument. What about people who don't have email, etc.

 

Did that stop the airlines from switching to e-tickets? No. Will saying that not everyone understands QR codes stop the TDAC rollout? No. Travelers will adapt. 

Unfortunately this is different - the airlines around the world change to e-tickets, but THIS IS THAILAND - te forms are likely to be ill-though out, not properly researched and Thailand has for decades shown that they are incapable of introducing any digital system without have=ing major glitches and flaws - of course they won't be prepared for this either.

Have you logged on to the form yet?

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, Upnotover said:

Confusion?  Why?  It's the same information that people entered on the paper form for years.  There will doubtless be an on arrival backup system in place for the incapable.

oh boy are you in for a surprise - what did you use to put down for hotel?

[redwood1]

1 hour ago, patman30 said:

why do they not just get the details from the airlines who already store it digitally
who you gave details to buy your ticket
who also verified your details before giving you your border pass
it seems the only use for technology these days is to make life more inconvenient for everyone

 

I think the 3 day rule proves your point....What difference would it make if you filled out this worthless form 30 or 60 days ahead of time? It would make zero difference...The 3 day rule only serves to inconvenience...

[Upnotover]

9 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Where do I access the TDAC form? - I've looked on the e-Visa site ad there is no mention.

https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home

[Upnotover]

5 minutes ago, kwilco said:

oh boy are you in for a surprise - what did you use to put down for hotel?

My home address, and I'll continue to do so.

[kwilco]

Don't fpget coming soon the ETA online form.

[HampiK]

What is important to fill in into the Residence field for people who really stay in Thailand all the time (except some holidays).

As most of them "only" have a NON-O (Non Immigrant) Visa/Extension. So I guess you are only excluded with a Thai Passport or Thai Residency Status!

But some people not have a residence other than Thailand.. and as some poster already replied Thailand is not in the list of residence country... it's intersting

[kwilco]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

wasnt the tm6 <deleted> canned a few years ago ?

And that's the stuff that's going to make America great again?

[SingAPorn]

2 types of people amongst others,  are destroying the image of Thailand abroad and locally.

 

First the immigration department policies, their absurd red tape against foreigners and all the absurd hassles for long stay visas directed even for foreigners who own a home/condo in Thailand are who are the far bigger spenders then the hordes of drunks an crooks who come in for 2 weeks.

 

Second, the crooked construction contractors who used lower grade materials, cheat customers, use unqualified staff and overcharge.

 

 

[Caldera]

13 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Have you logged on to the form yet?

 

There's no login. It's still under development and due to start in May. So, no.

[kwilco]

2 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

My home address, and I'll continue to do so.

So did I but you are assuming the computer will accept that. Many people arrive in Thailand with no concrete plans for where they stay - they used to put just about anything in that box - will the digital version accept that?

THere's also quite a lot more detail required... will the avaerae tourist know this? how about a backpacker aiming to travel around the country? Will the IT system beable to cope?

[kwilco]

4 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

There's no login. It's still under development and due to sta

n May. So, no.

You can now see the forms and fill one in here - https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/tac/arrival-card/add

[Caldera]

Just now, kwilco said:

You can now see the forms and fill one in here - https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/tac/arrival-card/add

 

Yes, I had a look, but why would I fill it in? Not like there's any immediate need or benefit.

[kwilco]

18 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

 

I think the 3 day rule proves your point....What difference would it make if you filled out this worthless form 30 or 60 days ahead of time? It would make zero difference...The 3 day rule only serves to inconvenience...

THailand is still basically a country run by the military and all military regims have an obsession with gathering information - the concept is "Gather first, and work out what to do with it later"

[kwilco]

Just now, Caldera said:

 

Yes, I had a look, but why would I fill it in? Not like there's any immediate need or benefit.

That's irrelevant - people want to see what they have to do and prepare for the questions. Previously it was impossible to even get a copy to look at - this tread is the first time I've seen the form - previous articles have all said it was on the e-Visa site, which it isn't.

People book travel in advance and this is happening is less than 5 weeks.

[kwilco]

I used to live in Thailand but now when I visit, I seldom book in advance so I just used to put a hotel name on the form - do they now check??

 

 

Accommodation Information in Thailand

• Type of accommodation
• Province
• District/Area
• Sub-District/Sub-Area
• Post code (if known)
• Address

Do they check this? What if you move about?

 

[thesetat]

Regardless of the arguments in the replies about the world becoming digital. Has any foreigner ever found a consistent working app made by Thais that does not have problems or creates more problems then prior to its use? 

 

 

[LeRoux]

4 hours ago, ronster said:

Won't make any difference to the criminals who just waltz in here without trouble.

Just a Nod from their Body-Guards, and possibly a small tattoo on the bodyguards hand or neck. ~ ~

 

[statman78]

2 hours ago, sandyf said:

What goes around comes around,

The US started the ball rolling back in 2008 with ESTA.

Accord to my search, for US citizens Australia started the ETA in 1996

[Drumbuie]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Another enjoyable experience...

I didn't have to fill in a TM6 when I came back to Thailand this week, nor the last time I flew in, last year. Immigration have all my info from my visa extension ( retirement) so once they've scanned the passport and checked the biometrics,  it's all linked up in their database - and that's that. 

 

Presumably the new Eform is only for visitors and tourists. 

 

Incidentally last week,  a S African friend of my son's was refused entry at Suvarnabhumi last week and had to fly home. Reason given: "too many tourist visas". I'll see if I can get more details. 

[OJAS]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Stay tuned for more updates.

 

Which, assuming a 1 May implementation, probably won't be forthcoming until 23:59 on 30 April.

[kwilco]

4 minutes ago, Drumbuie said:

I didn't have to fill in a TM6 when I came back to Thailand this week, nor the last time I flew in, last year. Immigration have all my info from my visa extension ( retirement) so once they've scanned the passport and checked the biometrics,  it's all linked up in their database - and that's that. 

 

Presumably the new Eform is only for visitors and tourists. 

 

Incidentally last week,  a S African friend of my son's was refused entry at Suvarnabhumi last week and had to fly home. Reason given: "too many tourist visas". I'll see if I can get more details. 

ALL arrivals will hae to fill in the online TDAC form from May Ist

 

[WHansen]

Much ado about nothing if you ask me.

There will be people who genuinely do not have the ability or the equipment to complete this online, for those there will be a wet ink alternative as Thailand does not want to turn tourist money away, it may mean standing in a queue but you will get in. Alternatively ask a family member or friend who does have the capabilities to complete the form for help. Your QR code can be sent to any ones email address to be printed off for you. Job done.

[kwilco]

WHEN can yo fill it in - can you do it. few days before or after you have landed?

[kwilco]

1 minute ago, WHansen said:

Much ado about nothing if you ask me.

There will be people who genuinely do not have the ability or the equipment to complete this online, for those there will be a wet ink alternative as Thailand does not want to turn tourist money away, it may mean standing in a queue but you will get in. Alternatively ask a family member or friend who does have the capabilities to complete the form for help. Your QR code can be sent to any ones email address to be printed off for you. Job done.

so when do you fill it in?

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

So did I but you are assuming the computer will accept that. Many people arrive in Thailand with no concrete plans for where they stay - they used to put just about anything in that box - will the digital version accept that?

THere's also quite a lot more detail required... will the avaerae tourist know this? how about a backpacker aiming to travel around the country? Will the IT system beable to cope?

 

OK, so in your opinion, the Thai request for an address is unworkable.

Please share your opinion with other countries who ask the same question usually for Customs.

USA -6059B Declaration form. Japan asks me for my location. Why is it so bad for Thailand to ask the question, but other countries not bad to ask?