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Deposit Dispute Turns Ugly: Ukrainian Renter Wrecks Thai Condo, Then Vanishes


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Actually, there are no sides or different stories at all regarding this. If the tenant refused to leave, and trashed the condo, then it´s double fault for the tenant. If it was a deposit problem, then it´s single fault for the tenant as there are no need to trash the apartment for 32k baht. That you oppose the legal way. This is pure vandalism, and should not be tolerated in any kind of way.

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

A Ukrainian woman has reportedly vanished after wreaking havoc on a Phuket condominium, leaving the owner with damages totalling more than 350,000 baht.

 

Oh My God, those pesky Ukrainians misbehave again in Thailand? What about Russians in Thailand?

 

 

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

A Ukrainian woman has reportedly vanished after wreaking havoc on a Phuket condominium, leaving the owner with damages totalling more than 350,000 baht.

 

What I don't like about Ukrainian women is that they may become furious and hysteric all of a sudden if they don't like something. They may be very aggressive. Beware!

 

On the plus side, they are very sexy and perform very well during sexual intercourse. They enjoy sex very much.

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just goes to show sometimes the thai way isn't always the best way.  I'd say Miss Meesonboom didn't give back the 32,000 baht deposit because the tenant broke the lease agreement.  Maybe next time she'll discuss issues amicably instead of demanding. 

 

There is two sides to every story and Miss Meesonboom isn't telling it all.  

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Where are the Thai laws that protect tenancy rights? Where does the landlord protect the deposit with an external company which can be arbitrated 

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4 hours ago, bdenner said:

350K Baht! I'll be around  tomorrow with a paint brush and a few sticks of furnisher.

No kidding.  I'll even knock the price down to 300,000 baht, but I'd need at least 200K before I'd start (due to lack of trust).  (I've been duped by Thai owners in the past.)

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3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Actually, there are no sides or different stories at all regarding this. If the tenant refused to leave, and trashed the condo, then it´s double fault for the tenant. If it was a deposit problem, then it´s single fault for the tenant as there are no need to trash the apartment for 32k baht. That you oppose the legal way. This is pure vandalism, and should not be tolerated in any kind of way.

While I get your point, in principle (about trashing the place), I disagree with your statement: "If it was a deposit problem, then it´s single fault for the tenant.."

 

How do you figure it's the 'single fault of the tenant' if she made the deposit in good faith and is now being denied a return of the money upon departure (pre-trashing)? The way it's supposed to work - and the Thai law backs this very well as I recall - is that upon vacating day, the owner or agent inspects the property together with the tenant to look for any damages (2 copies), and if none is required, by law, the owner is to refund the deposit (immediately or promptly - can't remember the exact words).

 

If there is any damage it is carefully noted and (3?) quotations for repairs are required in name of owner. The repair cannot be an 'improvement' to the original state when the tenant moved in. This is all spelled out in Thai law, and is in line with many western countries and their laws on tenancy, rights and oblications. Thre's also a time limit for all this.

 

The fact the tenant went to such extremes remaining in the condo, waiting a few days for her deposit to be returned, suggests the owner or agent told her she was not getting any deposit returned and they wanted her to leave. So then she trashed it. Not condoning her action. 

 

Most foreigners don't pursue their rights, and many (not all) Thai landlords just ignore/deny them and wait for them to leave the country (or so they hope).

 

My understanding is the Thai judges will actually side with the tenant in court - foreign or otherwise - if the owner is unfairly retaining the deposit (Note: if you use an agent to find a place and a lease, I've heard the agent usually gets one month of the deposit as their fee-for-service (eg. owner pays the agent one month). 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, steven100 said:

do you notice the thai's always go running to Facebook looking for sympathy and to make it look like they are so honest and sweet.   

When they're not suing the foreigner for libel at every turn...

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17 minutes ago, Lopburikid said:

Aren't they breaking the law by renting the condo out?

No.  Only short-term rentals of less than a month are illegal.  

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