So, I just clocked this headline and thought I’d misread it. “One Big Beautiful Bill,” yeah? That’s what they’re callin’ it. Sounds more like a dodgy new ripoff bar in Pattaya than a new bit of legislation. But no, turns out it’s Trump’s shiny new scheme to make rich people richer and leave the rest of the Yanks fightin’ over a few tins of Chef Boyardee and some expired acetaminophen.

 

So here’s the gist, yeah. Give this a butchers, mates. Trump reckons he’s gonna scrap taxes on overtime, tips, and Social Security. Sounds good, yeah? You’re thinkin’ maybe he’s finally doin’ somethin’ for the little guy. But then he drops the other shoe like a clumsy giraffe in stilettos, he’s payin’ for all that by gutting Medicaid and food stamps. Classic Trump. “Here’s a lollipop, now give me your house.”

 

So around 8.6 million Yanks are set to lose their health cover by 2034. Yeah, you heard right. Nearly 9 million. And it ain’t just a rounding error. About 7.7 million of ’em get the boot straight off the Medicaid cliff, while another 900,000 get shafted by fiddly new rules to the Obamacare sign-up circus. Basically, if you’re poor, sick, or just not minted enough to be chums with a hedge fund manager, you’re gettin’ screwed like a date on prom night.

 

They’re slashin’ Medicaid by nearly 900 billion quid, lads. That’s not a budget cut, that’s a Mexican Necktie. Millions gettin’ chucked off their health cover like it’s Survivor final round eliminations. “Sorry Sheila, your kidneys still don’t work, and no more dialysis for you, but at least you ain’t gettin’ taxed on your nonexistent overtime.”

 

And food stamps? Gone. Or close to it. Another few hundred billion shaved off that. Because apparently in Trumpworld, the solution to poverty is just makin’ it hungrier, again. Starvin’ builds character. More winnin' innit. 

 

This bill is a proper magic trick, you’re sayin’. Look over here Lewie, no taxes on your fry up tips and weekend shifts. But don’t look over there, where your nan’s dyin’ in a hallway ‘cos the clinic shut down and your mate’s three year old’s eatin’ dry cereal out the box ‘cos SNAP’s gone snap.

 

They’re sellin’ it like a Robin Hood job, givin’ back to the working man. But Robin Hood didn’t steal from the poor to build golf courses, buy Teslas and hand tax breaks to blokes who think “empathy” is a skin condition.

 

And the best part? It’s all built on vibes. No numbers add up, no plan for how it actually works. “It’ll pay for itself,” they say, like it’s a magic fackin’ beanstalk. Mate, the last time Trump said something would pay for itself, another one of his Atlantic City casinos went tits up and the only thing growin’ was his legal bills.

 

So yeah, “One Big Beautiful Bill”? More like one big beautiful bag of bell-ends. You can put glitter on a turd, but it’s still gonna stink to high hell when you slice it in half.

 

You know what this is? It’s a billionaire with a gold bog tellin’ a bloke workin’ two jobs and struggling to put nappies in his Tesco bag that he’s finally winnin’. While quietly sellin’ off the NHS equivalent, lockin’ the fridge, and nickin’ your last packet of crisps.

 

But don’t worry mate, your tips are tax free now. Assuming you’ve still got a job. Or a stomach. Or teeth.

 

https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-cuts-trump-tax-cuts-bill-1e2b12a91a3d12ceb0420ce7053de58e

Yup another grift for the billionaires to heck with regular folks….it’s beeing described as political seppku lol it’s such a blatant rep off of the working class that even the trumpers are starting to realize it …….oh and another tidbit since I’ve gotten back to the states I haven’t spotted one trumper sporting any of that cheap Chinese swag not a one,I’m in San Diego a fairly conservative military town….me thinks they are a starting to sour on the orange flimflam man.

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Yup another grift for the billionaires to heck with regular folks….it’s beeing described as political seppku lol it’s such a blatant rep off of the working class that even the trumpers are starting to realize it …….oh and another tidbit since I’ve gotten back to the states I haven’t spotted one trumper sporting any of that cheap Chinese swag not a one,I’m in San Diego a fairly conservative military town….me thinks they are a starting to sour on the orange flimflam man.

 

Didn't San Diego vote blue in the last election ?

6 hours ago, Lewie London said:

So, I just clocked this headline and thought I’d misread it. “One Big Beautiful Bill,” yeah? That’s what they’re callin’ it. Sounds more like a dodgy new ripoff bar in Pattaya than a new bit of legislation. But no, turns out it’s Trump’s shiny new scheme to make rich people richer and leave the rest of the Yanks fightin’ over a few tins of Chef Boyardee and some expired acetaminophen.

 

So here’s the gist, yeah. Give this a butchers, mates. Trump reckons he’s gonna scrap taxes on overtime, tips, and Social Security. Sounds good, yeah? You’re thinkin’ maybe he’s finally doin’ somethin’ for the little guy. But then he drops the other shoe like a clumsy giraffe in stilettos, he’s payin’ for all that by gutting Medicaid and food stamps. Classic Trump. “Here’s a lollipop, now give me your house.”

 

So around 8.6 million Yanks are set to lose their health cover by 2034. Yeah, you heard right. Nearly 9 million. And it ain’t just a rounding error. About 7.7 million of ’em get the boot straight off the Medicaid cliff, while another 900,000 get shafted by fiddly new rules to the Obamacare sign-up circus. Basically, if you’re poor, sick, or just not minted enough to be chums with a hedge fund manager, you’re gettin’ screwed like a date on prom night.

 

They’re slashin’ Medicaid by nearly 900 billion quid, lads. That’s not a budget cut, that’s a Mexican Necktie. Millions gettin’ chucked off their health cover like it’s Survivor final round eliminations. “Sorry Sheila, your kidneys still don’t work, and no more dialysis for you, but at least you ain’t gettin’ taxed on your nonexistent overtime.”

 

And food stamps? Gone. Or close to it. Another few hundred billion shaved off that. Because apparently in Trumpworld, the solution to poverty is just makin’ it hungrier, again. Starvin’ builds character. More winnin' innit. 

 

This bill is a proper magic trick, you’re sayin’. Look over here Lewie, no taxes on your fry up tips and weekend shifts. But don’t look over there, where your nan’s dyin’ in a hallway ‘cos the clinic shut down and your mate’s three year old’s eatin’ dry cereal out the box ‘cos SNAP’s gone snap.

 

They’re sellin’ it like a Robin Hood job, givin’ back to the working man. But Robin Hood didn’t steal from the poor to build golf courses, buy Teslas and hand tax breaks to blokes who think “empathy” is a skin condition.

 

And the best part? It’s all built on vibes. No numbers add up, no plan for how it actually works. “It’ll pay for itself,” they say, like it’s a magic fackin’ beanstalk. Mate, the last time Trump said something would pay for itself, another one of his Atlantic City casinos went tits up and the only thing growin’ was his legal bills.

 

So yeah, “One Big Beautiful Bill”? More like one big beautiful bag of bell-ends. You can put glitter on a turd, but it’s still gonna stink to high hell when you slice it in half.

 

You know what this is? It’s a billionaire with a gold bog tellin’ a bloke workin’ two jobs and struggling to put nappies in his Tesco bag that he’s finally winnin’. While quietly sellin’ off the NHS equivalent, lockin’ the fridge, and nickin’ your last packet of crisps.

 

But don’t worry mate, your tips are tax free now. Assuming you’ve still got a job. Or a stomach. Or teeth.

 

https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-cuts-trump-tax-cuts-bill-1e2b12a91a3d12ceb0420ce7053de58e

 

Its another choking decision by that "leader". 

It's amazing that Americans are still quiet more or less. This man hates his country (only the poor of course). They are treated like ants serving him, the King.

And in the meantime US lost the rest of reputation and honesty in the world.

MAGA is imploding.

 

The big beautiful bill has been blocked by House GOP.

 

Supreme Court blocks Trump from restarting Alien Enemies Act deportations.

 

More to follow. Supreme court to rule on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions by a district court judge. Expect major losses for MAGA.

 

 

 

Oh no, not another post for the bedwetting lefties and the crybaby democrats, who it transpires only like democracy when it produces a result they like …. give it a rest.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh no, not another post for the bedwetting lefties and the crybaby democrats, who it transpires only like democracy when it produces a result they like …. give it a rest.

 

 

Gibberish 

9 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Gibberish 

 

Discombobulating

 

 

I don't know much about it ... so I have to look it up.

 

Is it possible our mate Lewie is misrepresenting this bill to suit his own bias and twisted agenda?

 

Here is what it says on the govt page:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/one-big-beautiful-bill-is-a-once-in-a-generation-chance/

 

1 - It's the largest tax cut ever 

Americans earning between $30,000 and $80,000 will pay around 15% less in taxes

 

2 - It kicks illegal immigrants off taxpayer-funded Medicaid benefits. This bill eliminates waste, fraud, and abuse by ending benefits for at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants who are gaming the system.

 

3 - It prohibits Medicaid funding for gender transition procedures for minors.

 

 

18 hours ago, Lewie London said:

But then he drops the other shoe like a clumsy giraffe in stilettos, he’s payin’ for all that by gutting Medicaid and food stamps

 

Cutting medicaid to illegal immigrants, it seems. 

 

 

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

3 - It prohibits Medicaid funding for gender transition procedures for minors.

 

 

Of course a lot of folks would love to block something like this because they've been actively promoting gender transition for minors for many years. 

 

So go ahead and takes sides with people who are blocking this. It's child abuse, as far as I am concerned. 

 

Old Lewie posts and then disappears. Hope he's OK, I hear he was seen yesterday yelling at passing cars near T-21. 

8 hours ago, Lewie London said:

So, I just clocked this headline and thought I’d misread it. “One Big Beautiful Bill,” yeah? That’s what they’re callin’ it. Sounds more like a dodgy new ripoff bar in Pattaya than a new bit of legislation. But no, turns out it’s Trump’s shiny new scheme to make rich people richer and leave the rest of the Yanks fightin’ over a few tins of Chef Boyardee and some expired acetaminophen.

 

So here’s the gist, yeah. Give this a butchers, mates. Trump reckons he’s gonna scrap taxes on overtime, tips, and Social Security. Sounds good, yeah? You’re thinkin’ maybe he’s finally doin’ somethin’ for the little guy. But then he drops the other shoe like a clumsy giraffe in stilettos, he’s payin’ for all that by gutting Medicaid and food stamps. Classic Trump. “Here’s a lollipop, now give me your house.”

 

So around 8.6 million Yanks are set to lose their health cover by 2034. Yeah, you heard right. Nearly 9 million. And it ain’t just a rounding error. About 7.7 million of ’em get the boot straight off the Medicaid cliff, while another 900,000 get shafted by fiddly new rules to the Obamacare sign-up circus. Basically, if you’re poor, sick, or just not minted enough to be chums with a hedge fund manager, you’re gettin’ screwed like a date on prom night.

 

They’re slashin’ Medicaid by nearly 900 billion quid, lads. That’s not a budget cut, that’s a Mexican Necktie. Millions gettin’ chucked off their health cover like it’s Survivor final round eliminations. “Sorry Sheila, your kidneys still don’t work, and no more dialysis for you, but at least you ain’t gettin’ taxed on your nonexistent overtime.”

 

And food stamps? Gone. Or close to it. Another few hundred billion shaved off that. Because apparently in Trumpworld, the solution to poverty is just makin’ it hungrier, again. Starvin’ builds character. More winnin' innit. 

 

This bill is a proper magic trick, you’re sayin’. Look over here Lewie, no taxes on your fry up tips and weekend shifts. But don’t look over there, where your nan’s dyin’ in a hallway ‘cos the clinic shut down and your mate’s three year old’s eatin’ dry cereal out the box ‘cos SNAP’s gone snap.

 

They’re sellin’ it like a Robin Hood job, givin’ back to the working man. But Robin Hood didn’t steal from the poor to build golf courses, buy Teslas and hand tax breaks to blokes who think “empathy” is a skin condition.

 

And the best part? It’s all built on vibes. No numbers add up, no plan for how it actually works. “It’ll pay for itself,” they say, like it’s a magic fackin’ beanstalk. Mate, the last time Trump said something would pay for itself, another one of his Atlantic City casinos went tits up and the only thing growin’ was his legal bills.

 

So yeah, “One Big Beautiful Bill”? More like one big beautiful bag of bell-ends. You can put glitter on a turd, but it’s still gonna stink to high hell when you slice it in half.

 

You know what this is? It’s a billionaire with a gold bog tellin’ a bloke workin’ two jobs and struggling to put nappies in his Tesco bag that he’s finally winnin’. While quietly sellin’ off the NHS equivalent, lockin’ the fridge, and nickin’ your last packet of crisps.

 

But don’t worry mate, your tips are tax free now. Assuming you’ve still got a job. Or a stomach. Or teeth.

 

https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-cuts-trump-tax-cuts-bill-1e2b12a91a3d12ceb0420ce7053de58e

 

why are you calling yourself a Yank, you ex Special Forces also

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Yup another grift for the billionaires to heck with regular folks….it’s beeing described as political seppku lol it’s such a blatant rep off of the working class that even the trumpers are starting to realize it …….oh and another tidbit since I’ve gotten back to the states I haven’t spotted one trumper sporting any of that cheap Chinese swag not a one,I’m in San Diego a fairly conservative military town….me thinks they are a starting to sour on the orange flimflam man.

Well both you and your Buddy Spidermike are back in California, why don't you just stay there with all of the same people with your same deranged mindset.

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh no, not another post for the bedwetting lefties and the crybaby democrats, who it transpires only like democracy when it produces a result they like …. give it a rest.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, flexomike said:

Well both you and your Buddy Spidermike are back in California, why don't you just stay there with all of the same people with your same deranged mindset.

If I may, Calif is an awesome place where it's mainly the large urban areas that are packed with liberalism but that's only a small part of the real estate. 

 

I had to edit. Awesome meaning the topography, the beauty and the diversity of the landscape. Not the people running the show. 

37 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Cutting medicaid to illegal immigrants, it seems. 

 

 

Some facts, Some states offer medicaid to illegal immigrants using state funding only. The fed do not cover illegals.

 

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/issue-brief/5-key-facts-about-immigrants-and-medicaid/

An inflammatory post and a reply has been removed.

 

A post using a derogatory nickname has been removed.

18 hours ago, gargamon said:

MAGA is imploding.

 

I predict that Lewie London will implode long before MAGA ever does, bruv. 

 

Meanwhile over in the renewable energy community: -

https://diysolarforum.com/threads/the-one-big-beautiful-bill-text-seeks-to-end-solar-tax-credit-on-12-31-25.104788/

 

 

TERMINATION OF RESIDENTIAL CLEAN ENERGY CREDIT
(a) IN GENERAL.—Section 25D(h) is amended by striking ‘‘December 31, 2034’’ and inserting ‘‘December 31, 2025’’.

Source: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/WM/WM00/20250513/118260/BILLS-119-CommitteePrint-S001195-Amdt-1.pdf, page 221

Sidenote:
* This also ends ENERGY EFFICIENT HOME IMPROVEMENT CREDIT on the same date (for things like heat pumps, insulation and so on)
* This also ends CLEAN VEHICLE CREDIT ($7500 for EVs) on the same date with 1 extra year for those EV manufacturers that have sold under 200k vehicles (reverts this back to what it was before IRA was passed).
* Phasing out ADVANCED MANUFACTURING PRODUCTION CREDIT after 12/31/2031 (incentive to manufacture solar components)

 

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Cutting medicaid to illegal immigrants, it seems. 

 

 

They wont be needing US medicaid when they are back safe at home, where they should have been all along. The dems are only salty because they lose new voters.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I don't know much about it ... so I have to look it up.

 

Is it possible our mate Lewie is misrepresenting this bill to suit his own bias and twisted agenda?

 

Here is what it says on the govt page:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/one-big-beautiful-bill-is-a-once-in-a-generation-chance/

 

1 - It's the largest tax cut ever 

Americans earning between $30,000 and $80,000 will pay around 15% less in taxes

 

2 - It kicks illegal immigrants off taxpayer-funded Medicaid benefits. This bill eliminates waste, fraud, and abuse by ending benefits for at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants who are gaming the system.

 

3 - It prohibits Medicaid funding for gender transition procedures for minors.

 

 

Quoting white house propaganda from the most corrupt, most lying, president in history.

Back to reality.

They're not cutting hundreds of billions of federal Medicaid funding with cuts to transgender care and illegals.

This is what the cruel autocratic maga regime does.

It red baits and lies hot button issues to cover up what they're really doing assuming most Americans are suckers and won't look deeper.

They're often right.

So bottom line they are gutting Medicaid.

Will they succeed? 

If I had to bet I'd say yes, but hopefully not.

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So bottom line they are gutting Medicaid.

 

So there are 2 possibilities. 

1 - You are excessively paranoid

 

2 - They are not cutting Medicaid. They are trying to get rid of the abuse and fraud in the social security systems. Again, this is from the horse's mouth. But says YOU that nothing from this web site can be trusted. 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/fact-check-president-trump-will-always-protect-social-security-medicare/

 

The Trump Administration will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. President Trump himself has said it (over and over and over again).

 

Elon Musk didn’t say that, either. The press is lying again.

 

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Quoting white house propaganda from the most corrupt, most lying, president in history.

 

But who really lies more?

The president or the media poisoning people's minds with all sorts of nonsense? 

 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

So there are 2 possibilities. 

1 - You are excessively paranoid

 

2 - They are not cutting Medicaid. They are trying to get rid of the abuse and fraud in the social security systems. Again, this is from the horse's mouth. But says YOU that nothing from this web site can be trusted. 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/fact-check-president-trump-will-always-protect-social-security-medicare/

 

The Trump Administration will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. President Trump himself has said it (over and over and over again).

 

Elon Musk didn’t say that, either. The press is lying again.

 

 

You left out the correct third possibility.

They lied. 

They are gutting Medicaid if that big bill passes as it.

I can't help it that you don't bother to do basic research yourself and just blindly believe regime propaganda.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

But who really lies more?

The president or the media poisoning people's minds with all sorts of nonsense? 

 

No doubt this president.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No doubt this president.

 

I just came across this web site which reinforces the idea that Trump wants to cut Medicaid.

And they have another really poignant article here entitled "Republicans Want You to Die". 

 

So these folks are not only telling you Trump will cut Medicaid, but that he flat out wants people to die. 

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/republicans-want-you-to-die

 

I truly surrender. And this time I mean it. I am no longer posting in any more Trump threads.

There are an army of media people out there making all sorts of claims. 

Who knows what people are filling their minds with?

Believe whatever you want.

It's way too much work to debate with people.

 

Maybe Trump will cut Medicaid and does want you to die. What do I know? 

 

I officially SURRENDER. 

 

 

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I don't know much about it ... so I have to look it up.

 

Is it possible our mate Lewie is misrepresenting this bill to suit his own bias and twisted agenda?

 

Here is what it says on the govt page:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/one-big-beautiful-bill-is-a-once-in-a-generation-chance/

 

1 - It's the largest tax cut ever 

Americans earning between $30,000 and $80,000 will pay around 15% less in taxes

 

2 - It kicks illegal immigrants off taxpayer-funded Medicaid benefits. This bill eliminates waste, fraud, and abuse by ending benefits for at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants who are gaming the system.

 

3 - It prohibits Medicaid funding for gender transition procedures for minors.

 

 

1. Slight of hand ignoring the tax increases for tariffs

 

2. Immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid.

 

3. Procedures for trans minors are illegal because they cannot consent.

 

Deal in facts, not Fox.

7 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

1. Slight of hand ignoring the tax increases for tariffs

 

2. Immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid.

 

3. Procedures for trans minors are illegal because they cannot consent.

 

Deal in facts, not Fox.

Yeah relying on "information" from Fox and direct white house sources is the US equivalent of a Russian relying on Kremlin propaganda and state tv. Not credible in the slightest.