2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So you have no ideas. Putin wants Z to resign and give up all land gained.

 

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So you have no ideas. Putin wants Z to resign and give up all land gained.

That's old news.

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

 

That's old news.

That's what he wants. I doubt he will change his mind.

47 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, dear.........🙄

Only to be expected from him. I thought that he would have responded much quicker.

Another successful brokered Trump deal 

The guy is all smoke and mirrors 

13 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

That's what he wants. I doubt he will change his mind.

Everyone knows that, except the great negotiator who will Make America Great Again.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

since EU doesn't want the war to end

You must be deluded. Statement, please!

29 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

How would you do a deal? You anti Trump whiners have no ideas. Putin does not care what the west says.

Putin want Ukraine, and his plan was just to overthrow the government and put his man back in seat so they could continue like Georgia, but Zelensky choosed to stay instead of fleeing. That’s where the west comes in and support an independent Ukraine. Putin can end the war tomorrow. 

 

24 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

One thing that Putin has over Trump is a functioning brain.

that’s a cruel fact, yes

 

Putin is smart, even we do not like him we have to acknowledge the factum, the enemy are smarter than our allies 

Just now, Hummin said:

26 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

One thing that Putin has over Trump is a functioning brain.

that’s a cruel fact, yes

 

 

And there it is.....first LOL of the day......cheers.

Just now, Hawaiian said:

Everyone knows that, except the great negotiator who will Make America Great Again.

I have said this before but it's GRATE not great.

I wish the so called democracies of the world would show some bottle in dealing with the local bully.

51 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Another anti Trump thread, based on less than all the others 

 

... "Both leaders suggested progress had been made on talks about the future of the war in Ukraine but neither disclosed details during their joint appearance in front of the world’s press where neither took questions from journalists." ... 

 

Don't know what y'all expect, or know what everyone else doesn't know.

 

What I expect, since EU doesn't want the war to end, and convinced Z not to, I expect RU & USA agreeing to remain peaceful, and RU do what it needs to do.   

 

USA will not back NATO silliness in a regional conflict that doesn't involve the EU, nor the USA.  Z has no interest in a ceasefire or peace agreement, so live or die with that choice.

 

RU has been as patient as anyone can expect.  Time to end the silliness.  Boot Z & govt from their dictatorship, and let UA citizens have an election to decide it's future.

Do what, of course Z wants the war to end, he is resolute that he  will not give away any of his country, and who can blame him, it was Russia that invaded Ukraine and took the Crimean and Donbas regions.

In fact, Europe has spent more on supporting Ukraine then the USA, and about 60%of USA spending has been on aid etc. .

As for Russia being patient, why are they still sending a record numbers of drones in to Ukraine, so far 1 million Russians have been killed in this conflict (Quote from BBC World Service this morning) Putin is the one who does not want the war to end.

He walked away glad no more sanctions were imposed on Russia, as a very knowledgeable pundit said this morning on the BBC it will be money that will stop this war, mainly when Russia runs out of it, so why no more sanctions on Russia?, it is if Trump wants the war to continue 

5 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

Another successful brokered Trump deal 

The guy is all smoke and mirrors 

To use an American expression Trump is,

 

"All hat and no cattle".

 

On a Google search of the phrase, AI comes up with the explanation as follows,

 

 

AI Overview
All Hat, No Cattle | Ray Noah
"All hat, no cattle" is an idiom used to describe someone who talks big and boasts but lacks the substance or action to back it up. It implies they are all show and no action, much like someone who dresses like a cowboy but doesn't own or work with cattle. 

 

Just now, Negita43 said:

I wish the so called democracies of the world would show some bottle in dealing with the local bully.

Sorry all - I got that wrong - should be bullies

1 hour ago, transam said:

Trump's after the meeting news briefing just shows how incompetent he is, embarrassing.......🙄

 

Thousands dead and they are all chummy........🤢

 

 

What a load of old cobblers; pure drivel from the mouth of an idiot. He achieved NOTHING and showed that he hasn't the brains/nous to be able to negotiate with Putin.

 

He is a complete embarrassment to the US and the world of diplomacy.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

I have said this before but it's GRATE not great.

I wish the so called democracies of the world would show some bottle in dealing with the local bully.

 

 

The bully has huge economic clout....and there is no escaping that......just like the schoolyard bully tends to be bigger, stronger and more psychotic than the average kid. 

 

If nations don't work in unison, which they just can't (look at India and Russian oil), someone always breaks ranks to benefit.....and the game is over.

 

 

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

What a load of old cobblers; pure drivel from the mouth of an idiot. He achieved NOTHING and showed that he hasn't the brains/nous to be able to negotiate with Putin.

 

He is a complete embarrassment to the US and the world of diplomacy.

 

 

Indeed, his waffle afterwards was embarrassing........😬

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

And there it is.....first LOL of the day......cheers.

Even it is a Lol, it is true

 

Putin have done a hell of a job trying to reestablish the power they once had after laying down with broken back after the Cold War they lost. Imperiums comes and goes, and even it is not time for Russia as we see it now today, they will continue to try together with their allies. 

 

Have to remember after the Cold War, Russia was a Wild West country, and he have now collected themselves back on the map. Proven by USA invites them home for a peace talk with the president. 

 

That’s a big win for Putin back home and for his allies. 

 

Just look at the chaotic press conference before the meeting, that’s the symbol of the great west have turned in to. 

 

 

 

Just now, Hummin said:

14 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

And there it is.....first LOL of the day......cheers.

Even it is a Lol, it is true

 

Oh believe me....... it is LOL because it is so true.

12 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Nobody wants the war ended except the mums and dads. War mongers make $

 

That's one reason I like Trump.

Unlike other leaders, he doesn't need to start wars to generate $.

He's smart enough to run the country as a profitable business.

Most other leaders lack business sense and take the lowest common denominator of fueling the war machine. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

One thing that Putin has over Trump is a functioning brain.

When you look at the amount of damage Putin has done to his own country and many of its young men, your statement does have a few question marks.

Not a surprise, it was expected from TACO, we keep seeing the same behavior when he deals/faces Putin, the guy must have some very dirt on Trump, there's no other plausible logical explanation, Putin is holding Trump by the cojones. The meeting was, as expected,  an humiliation for Trump and the little credibility he had it's gone and so is the nobel prize

He rolled out the red carpet for an indicted war criminal and all Trump got was an invitation to Moscow

https://au.news.yahoo.com/rolled-red-carpet-indicted-war-013122144.html

24 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oh believe me....... it is LOL because it is so true.

And if Trump goes to Moscow, you can expect nothing than a great show for statesmen no like it we can produce back home in the great west, and the journalists will behave and ask adequate questions giving a formal show for statesmen worthy. 

 

And another win for Moscow and Putin 

 

Sad when you thinking back of the horrible <deleted> show Donald, Vance and the foreign minister I do not remember the name of who sit there silent while the shameful performance developed. 

 

Another win for Putin

 

 

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

That's one reason I like Trump.

Unlike other leaders, he doesn't need to start wars to generate $.

He's smart enough to run the country as a profitable business.

Yep, he sure profits from it, the Grifter in Chief.

Just now, Screaming said:

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

 the problem I see here is the "IF" and the "But".... Putin does know how to turn things into his favor, thus lame excuses are common on his vocabulary

2 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

The war started in 2014, when Russia invaded Crimea.

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

You never finished school

for the intelligent an education does not begin or end at school.... 

1 minute ago, Screaming said:

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

What a lot of mindless drivel. Trump is in the WH now, not Biden. Trump said he'd stop the war in 24 hrs, not Biden. Trump is running around on the world stage making a fool out of himself and the US, not Biden, and all the deflections in the world cannot hide those facts.

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The war started in 2014, when Russia invaded Crimea.

Even we tried the free world concept, we have to accept the fact Russia felt threatened by Nato and Eu stepping on the front door and saving contracts with great resources and work forces in good trade deals with former east block countries, and also weapon deals especially concerning Poland, Estonia, and Latvia who are all members of NATO now, and if we do not understand these facts, then it is arguably nothing more to discuss. 

 

The nature of Russia and Russia Mentality could not accept they were left behind. 

 

Edit note, Europe fell in to the Russia trap and became dependent on Russias Cheap energy, which made it easier for Putin to gamble on an invasion of Ukraine 

10 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

the guy must have some very dirt on Trump, there's no other plausible logical explanation,

I can think of a few other logical explanations.  My favorite is Trump is only concerned about himself and as a President he's a cowardly fool.

16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

That's one reason I like Trump.

Unlike other leaders, he doesn't need to start wars to generate $.

He's smart enough to run the country as a profitable business.

Most other leaders lack business sense and take the lowest common denominator of fueling the war machine. 

 

 

How is Americans paying tariffs  taxes on all imported goods and services generating anything, apart from inflation?

 

A businessman whose companies have gone bust 6-7 times. How the hell do you bankrupt not one, but THREE casinos?

 

I suppose you could say Trump is applying his business model to all America. With the same results.