6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

He agreed with a statement from the bible that says kill homosexuals. Which is idiotic and in doing so, shows he is a nasty piece of work. Isn't a reason to be killed though.

Repeating BS doesn't change anything

🌱 When “Report” Looks Like “Deport”

 

Sometimes mistakes are coincidental. YouTube’s play button happens to cover the R in “Report,” making it look like “Deport.” Regulators banned subliminal tricks on television decades ago for good reason: hidden cues can influence perception below our awareness. When looking only at the original thumbnail I believe the creator(s) of this video had no bad intention in mind:

 

 

But if the thumbnail illusion is shallow, the content of the video itself runs far deeper — and far darker. Here, Charlie Kirk’s words are not satire or slips. They are repeated attacks on women, minorities, civil rights, and democratic values, delivered with conviction. This is not subliminal suggestion. This is overt rhetoric, designed to sow fear, division, and anger — seeds planted in the soil of resentment.

 

The “horrible saint” some carry inside their minds is not holy at all; it is a projection of their fears and hidden desires, elevated into authority. For those who follow, the harvest seems empowering: clarity, belonging, identity. But the true harvest is bitter: division, broken trust, lost empathy.

 

Is the harvest worth the sowing? No. Hate speech may bring quick power and attention, but in the long run it corrodes the society that nourishes it. Freedom of speech matters — but so does freedom from manipulation, whether subliminal or overt.

 

We cannot always control what others plant, but we can choose what we water. Stay alert. Think critically. Double-check the original.

 

Did I look at the content?

 

No not really. I lost my appetite I felt I was being manipulated. Interestingly it already happened just before I decided not to activate the Youtube button.

 

16 minutes ago, shdmn said:

1. Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible” leader who never admits mistakes.

 

2. Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.

 

3. Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.

Sounds like the Democrats.   

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here's proof.

 

Someone on here thought the "black pilot" comment was racism?

 

He is criticizing and calling into question the effectiveness of affirmative action. 

 

The man had a way with words... Gotta give him that!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Just taking, for example, Charlie Kirk’s stance on affirmative action. The video circulated by JT selectively cherry-picks “sound bites” that, on first viewing, may appear racist or bigoted. Yet, upon closer examination of his full arguments, there is substantive reasoning behind his position.

 

Yes, that is the basis of all the accusations that Charlie Kirk was racist and otherwise a "horrible" person.  Sound bites were taken out of context.  Kirk was critical of affirmative action and certain aspects of modern Black culture, but he didn't believe African Americans were racially inferior to whites.

 

Kirk held traditional conservative Christian values regarding the role of women in marriage as well as the "sinfulness" of homosexuality or transitioning to the opposite sex.  Many today disagree with his objections to certain lifestyles on religious grounds, but again, that doesn't make him "horrible."

 

Kirk served as an effective counterweight to the wave of "woke" ideology that began sweeping across the U.S. after the death of George Floyd.  That's really what made him seem horrible in the eyes of some.

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8 hours ago, TedG said:

That's the best way to describe Democrats. 

 

 

After all, '... to state such a thing implies the person making such a statement is somewhat distasteful themself."

7 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Yes, that is the basis of all the accusations that Charlie Kirk was racist and otherwise a "horrible" person.  Sound bites were taken out of context.  Kirk was critical of affirmative action and certain aspects of modern Black culture, but he didn't believe African Americans were racially inferior to whites.

 

Kirk held traditional conservative Christian values regarding the role of women in marriage as well as the "sinfulness" of homosexuality or transitioning to the opposite sex.  Many today disagree with his objections to certain lifestyles on religious grounds, but again, that doesn't make him "horrible."

 

Kirk served as an effective counterweight to the wave of "woke" ideology that began sweeping across the U.S. after the death of George Floyd.  That's really what made him seem horrible in the eyes of some.

 

For context: Floyd didn't simply die, he was murdered.

 

Kirk wasn't assassinated, he was also murdered.

 

Neither deserved this.

16 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You lose credibility when you lie incessantly. 

 

If you can provide data that supports that, I'll let you raw-dog my daughter. 

Republican political crimes far outweigh the Democratic side. Kirk of course has nothing to do with this.................https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states.

16 hours ago, xylophone said:

You obviously haven't been looking at the statistics with regard to murders/killings in the USA, because Republicans top the list by far..........these are the horrible people and Kirk was one of them.

Republican political murders are higher than the Democrat side, although rare. Some states might have more crime than others, meaning red or blue, but that doesn't necessarily mean the murders are occurring on a particular side. ...................https://manhattan.institute/article/red-vs-blue-crime-debate-and-the-limits-of-empirical-social-science

I just wonder how Kirk knew that one of those white pilots wasn't the Boss's wife's sister's son who was looking for a job. I am sure that before Affirmative Action, many more qualified black people got overlooked to hire a white guy. So, to wonder if that black pilot was qualified solely because of his color was racist.

He actually openly preached that transgenderism was a mental illness?

 

That is controversial. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

He actually openly preached that transgenderism was a mental illness?

 

That is controversial. 

 

 

 

It’s disappointing to hear a different perspective. The truth is that being transgender is a completely normal aspect of human diversity. Embracing this understanding is essential, and we must rely on credible scientific evidence to shape our views.

11 hours ago, TedG said:

It's strange to see that they elected Tim Walz as governor. 

I'm from MN and totally agree with you, now I see he is planning on running for another term.

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

For context: Floyd didn't simply die, he was murdered.

 

Floyd had in his blood test a cocktail of drugs that would have killed a lot of people and was already struggling to breathe while he was in the back of the cop car.  He wasn't murdered.  He died of a self inflicted overdose, exacerbated by resisting arrest. 

 

He was found guilty of murder largely because if the jury had acquitted, there would have been blood in the streets.  Which I refer to as "social extortion" by BLM.

 

11 hours ago, nick supreme said:

 

It’s disappointing to hear a different perspective. The truth is that being transgender is a completely normal aspect of human diversity. Embracing this understanding is essential, and we must rely on credible scientific evidence to shape our views.

 

What "scientific evidence" do you want?

 

Believe whatever you want. It's crazy to enter this sort of debate in the first place. 

 

Unless God appears from the clouds or Jesus comes back down and states explicitly "This was not part of my plan, kids. Stop transitioning." .... there will never be an end to this debate as it's all subjective.

It's too "abstract" for science to figure out. 

 

20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here's proof.

 

 

And yet the vile dystopian extremist forces of the shambolic Trump (best friend of Epstein) regime and those trying to whitewash how obnoxious and hateful Kirk REALLY was are trying to CANCEL anyone (getting them fired, etc.) who just shows and opines about EXACTLY what Kirk said in his life. Also they're trying (and largely succeeding) in making a person who was extremely far away from being a saint into a kind of magalicious (sic) martyr-saint. The hypocristy is stunning.

That is disgusting and even some right wingers like Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz get that.

 

In this clip, we see clips assembled on the same subject. Charlie Kirk was a lot more than just that.

Even though he (repeatedly) lists facts, but that does not make him wrong, or nasty.

 

He was a great debater, and will be missed dearly.

 

And as Elon Musk warned, the violence will come from the leftist ideology.

 

And now what college students have been brainwashed into believing... Make sure you are not one of them ideologically..

 

Professor has HAD ENOUGH of RADICAL left students after Charlie Kirk's murder - YouTube

 

At 20min. 50 seconds, here is an excerpt of the narrative of a leftist female student "He (Charlie Kirk) could say and have some clear points that are factually true, or statistically true, or morally true in rare cases (probably because of his stance on abortions) but that does not mean I agree with him, and everything that he did.''

 

 

This girl is in college, and says things like: 'Factually true, statistically true, morally true, but I don't agree with it.' She is the living proof that Charlie Kirk must have been right, in dropping out of a University, to go into something that could make a change for the better in society.

 

Charlie had such specialized knowledge, making him one of the best debater on social subjects...

Just now, impulse said:

 

Floyd had in his blood test a cocktail of drugs that would have killed a lot of people and was already struggling to breathe while he was in the back of the cop car.  He wasn't murdered.  He died of a self inflicted overdose, exacerbated by resisting arrest. 

 

He was found guilty of murder largely because if the jury had acquitted, there would have been blood in the streets.  Which I refer to as "social extortion" by BLM.

 

 

Yes, but the 'toxic cocktail' didn't kill him, did it? The cop did.

 

You can jog on now.

Just now, Andre0720 said:

In this clip, we see clips assembled on the same subject. Charlie Kirk was a lot more than just that.

Even though he (repeatedly) lists facts, but that does not make him wrong, or nasty.

 

He was a great debater, and will be missed dearly.

 

And as Elon Musk warned, the violence will come from the leftist ideology.

 

And now what college students have been brainwashed into believing... Make sure you are not one of them ideologically..

 

Professor has HAD ENOUGH of RADICAL left students after Charlie Kirk's murder - YouTube

 

At 20min. 50 seconds, here is an excerpt of the narrative of a leftist female student "He (Charlie Kirk) could say and have some clear points that are factually true, or statistically true, or morally true in rare cases (probably because of his stance on abortions) but that does not mean I agree with him, and everything that he did.''

 

This girl is in college, and says things like: 'Factually true, statistically true, morally true, but I don't agree with it.' She is the living proof that Charlie Kirk must have been right, in dropping out of a University, to go into something that could make a change for the better in society.

 

Charlie had such specialized knowledge, making him one of the best debater on social subjects...

 

Another proposing martyrdom for Charlie?

 

Go the t-shirt yet?

Just now, NanLaew said:

Yes, but the 'toxic cocktail' didn't kill him, did it? The cop did.

 

You can jog on now.

 

What the cop did was stupid, but that's not what killed him. That was the drugs in his system, exacerbated by the stress and exertion of resisting arrest.

 

BTW, given that he was unemployed, where do you figure he got the money for all those drugs?

 

Thanks. Such ridiculous glorification of the goon going on. Some of the things he said were so nasty. There are now websites where Americans doxx other Americans for social media posts. Many of the posts were just repeating quotes of Kirk’s. At least a dozen teachers have been fired so far. Journalists. Doctors. Members of the military. This is insane.

Just now, impulse said:

What the cop did was stupid, but that's not what killed him. That was the drugs in his system, exacerbated by the stress and exertion of resisting arrest.

 

In your mind, yes.

 

Just now, impulse said:

BTW, given that he was unemployed, where do you figure he got the money for all those drugs?

 

From that godawful Biden government, of course. Why did you even need to ask such a stupid question?

 

Oh, wait...

 

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Republican political crimes far outweigh the Democratic side. Kirk of course has nothing to do with this.................https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states.

First, I have seen nothing credible that convinces me of that. You link took me to Cato, but the article was not found. And to get that result, all the left-wing riots have to be ignored, 

 

Second, the liar did not say "political" crimes, the liar said murders/killings. 

 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

First, I have seen nothing credible that convinces me of that. You link took me to Cato, but the article was not found. And to get that result, all the left-wing riots have to be ignored, 

 

Second, the liar did not say "political" crimes, the liar said murders/killings. 

 

I know what he said, and was likely talking about political murders being higher on the right, which is true. There isn't any way to gauge how many regular murders happen on either side unless you asked each perp their political leaning, which isn't something a police official would do, just wanting to know why they did it, where most are personal some are political , and a few are serial killers targeting strangers. This link will bring you to where you can click on the top one...........https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Thanks. Such ridiculous glorification of the goon going on. Some of the things he said were so nasty. There are now websites where Americans doxx other Americans for social media posts. Many of the posts were just repeating quotes of Kirk’s. At least a dozen teachers have been fired so far. Journalists. Doctors. Members of the military. This is insane.

You mean like all the leftists doxxing ICE agents and assaulting them? 

 

I hope a hundred thousand teachers are fired if they are online gleefully celebrating Kirk's murder. I would not want such people around kids. The same goes for anyone gleefully celebrating George Floyd's death. 

 

Remember people getting beat up for wearing MAGA hats? 

 

The left hates it when the right uses plays out of their book. 

 

 

Another link showing which side has more political violence................................Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001..................https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/right-wing-extremist-violence-is-more-frequent-and-deadly-than-left-wing-violence-data-shows

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I know what he said, and was likely talking about political murders being higher on the right, which is true. There isn't any way to gauge how many regular murders happen on either side unless you asked each perp their political leaning, which isn't something a police official would do, just wanting to know why they did it, where most are personal some are political , and a few are serial killers targeting strangers. This link will bring you to where you can click on the top one...........https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

He's a liar, and you want to say, oh, that's not what he meant.

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You mean like all the leftists doxxing ICE agents and assaulting them? 

 

I hope a hundred thousand teachers are fired if they are online gleefully celebrating Kirk's murder. I would not want such people around kids. The same goes for anyone gleefully celebrating George Floyd's death. 

 

Remember people getting beat up for wearing MAGA hats? 

 

The left hates it when the right uses plays out of their book. 

 

 

Another day of your lefty stuff, how enthralling for us..........

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

He's a liar, and you want to say, oh, that's not what he meant.

 

I don't know if he's lying or misinformed, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.