R.I.P. young man.

So sad.

Very sad indeed, but as others have mentioned, why is a child on a motorbike at all, never mind at that hour? But this is still very sad and unfair.

I have ridden bikes for 43 years and love them... and have two daughers in Bangkok. For reasons like this I will not let them on the road. This poor kid wasn't even ridingthe wrong way (as many do) and he lost his life 70 years too early!

5 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

How can you be sure it wasn't the bike that was traveling above the speed limit. It's more likely. I've seen enough young kids riding their bikes like a bat out of hell. Often on the wrong side of the road. Have some on my car-cam.

Mind you, it's very seldom that you'll find me on the road after 1am.

 

I made it clear that the nature of the damage sustained indicated an impact at high speed. The large indentation in the front hood and body, the damaged windscreen and the landing point of the  body are all typical of an impact at speed. The automobile hit the motorbike head on throwing the body from the motorbike so that it impacted the windscreen of the automobile and them deflecting the body over the vehicle roof and into the bed of the truck. That suggests an impact of 50 kmh+. If the drunk driver had braked or swerved, the indentation would have been different and the body and motorbike  knocked to the side

 

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Apologist nonsense... a 13 year old on a Motorcycle at 1am...  along with 1000's of others nation wide...   they don't all have unwell parents with no other choice but to get medication from a pharmacy that isn't open at 1am !!!! 

The age of the boy is somewhat moot though and we've been side tracked - this is another pished up driver who behaved with complete disregard for the law and lives of others...  A police force and authorities are so apathetic they 'will not' deal nation wide social-epidemic....

 

Apologist for who? The  deceased did nothing wrong. He was the victim. All I see are people blaming a kid who was mowed down by a drunk. You have no knowledge of the circumstances of why the kid was on his motorbike  or whether he was stopped or driving at 20 kmh or whatever. The responsibility for this tragedy rests solely with the likely speeding drunk driver who hit  the boy.

 

9 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Are you some kind of jerk, or are you just posting for the hell of it?

No 13 year old should be on a motorbike  -  at any time of day - for a sick relative or not.

 

Who are you to dictate what should be the norm in a foreign culture and society? Should have, would have, could have. Are you going to  remedy the  socio economic conditions that cause young people to be out and about? The  kids selling baubles and flowers at the night market should not be doing that at 9 PM on a school day, but they do.  The boy did nothing wrong. He was the victim. 

You are like so many of the other old white farangs who are lashing out and blaming a kid, in some cases because they are projecting their own insecurity, aware that they too drive drunk or are bad drivers, it's always the fault of the young people. You know nothing about the deceased or the reasons why he was out on his motorbike, but you are quick to point the finger and blame the victim. 

Yes, in a perfect world, a 13 year old should be  in a nice home sleeping on clean sheets and having had a warm nutritious meal, in a clean and comfortable home. Unfortunately, life is not like that for millions of Thais. If it was, the farangs who come for the easy sex and the low cost lifestyle would have to go elsewhere.

10 hours ago, G Rex said:

 

Not defending the truck driver in any  way  - but how do you know he was speeding??

If he was driving at 40km/h, and the motorcycle approached him at 90km/h - the impact would look like this.

 

If motorcycle was driving at speed, he would have been in pieces and not landed in the bed of the truck. The motorbike engine was not powerful enough to support 90kmh on a rural road. It was a 125cc and an older model. Driving down a hill on a paved highway, maybe, but then there would be wobbles.The indentation of the front hood suggests an impact with a stationary object or slow moving object. There are photo libraries that offer profile of the characteristics of these type of collisions. Always a chance there were different circumstances, but it's a good bet the  pickup was driving fast, while the motorbike was not.

22 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

If motorcycle was driving at speed, he would have been in pieces and not landed in the bed of the truck. The motorbike engine was not powerful enough to support 90kmh on a rural road. It was a 125cc and an older model. Driving down a hill on a paved highway, maybe, but then there would be wobbles.The indentation of the front hood suggests an impact with a stationary object or slow moving object. There are photo libraries that offer profile of the characteristics of these type of collisions. Always a chance there were different circumstances, but it's a good bet the  pickup was driving fast, while the motorbike was not.

 

A 125cc modified motorcycle (as this one was - look at the exhaust/back box) - with a light weight 13yo Thai on board can easily exceed 90 mph.  Local kids around here will ‘hunker down’ lower, so as to reduce wind resistance, in an effort to go faster. Surely if the motorbike was going slowly, he would have seen the approaching vehicle, and taken evasive action.

Again - I am not in any way condoning the action of the driver - going the wrong way , and under the influence of alcohol - he is obviously the major cause of this incident.

I refer to it as an incident, rather than an accident - because both parties made poor choices that were bound to go wrong. It was entirely preventable.

12 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

There is no excuse for a 13 year old to be riding a motorcycle at any time of the day/night.

A child should not have access to the keys of any motor vehicle, ever.

13 years old is barely a teenager, it is not mature.

Yea, lets blame the victim. 

18 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

A 13-year-old boy was killed in Sattahip, Chonburi Province, t around 01:00 on 9 October 2025, when a drunk driver travelling the wrong way collided with his motorcycle.

I don't need to know any more. This was manslaughter or, at least, causing death by dangerous driving. 

I don't understand how anyone can defend the pissed up driver, on the wrong side of the road in the dark. The age of the kid, and the time of night, are irrelevant.

What a waste of a young life.

 

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

13 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Are you some kind of jerk, or are you just posting for the hell of it?

No 13 year old should be on a motorbike  -  at any time of day - for a sick relative or not.

 

Who are you to dictate what should be the norm in a foreign culture and society? Should have, would have, could have. Are you going to  remedy the  socio economic conditions that cause young people to be out and about? The  kids selling baubles and flowers at the night market should not be doing that at 9 PM on a school day, but they do.  The boy did nothing wrong. He was the victim. 

You are like so many of the other old white farangs who are lashing out and blaming a kid, in some cases because they are projecting their own insecurity, aware that they too drive drunk or are bad drivers, it's always the fault of the young people. You know nothing about the deceased or the reasons why he was out on his motorbike, but you are quick to point the finger and blame the victim. 

Yes, in a perfect world, a 13 year old should be  in a nice home sleeping on clean sheets and having had a warm nutritious meal, in a clean and comfortable home. Unfortunately, life is not like that for millions of Thais. If it was, the farangs who come for the easy sex and the low cost lifestyle would have to go elsewhere.

 

Who are you not to question what’s happening on the streets around you in a country full of people you should care for and not want to see these repeated needless deaths...

... Don’t you care at all that a child was on a motorcycle at 1 am, exposed to lethal danger? Justifying it as “that’s how life is” or “he did nothing wrong” isn’t compassion - it’s complicity. Ignoring the problem, pretending it’s someone else’s responsibility, is exactly how these tragedies keep happening.

 

Yes, socio-economic conditions are real, and yes, life isn’t perfect - but shrugging and saying the boy was “just doing what he had to do” dumbs down the issue into an excuse to do nothing. That kind of reasoning is ignorant and careless.

 

Recognising that society failed him, that policing failed him, that adults allowed him to be in danger - this is not about blaming the victim. It’s about refusing to justify a preventable tragedy.

 

Being part of the problem doesn’t require intent - sometimes it’s just the willingness to look away.

 

Of course none of the above diminishes the truck drivers absolute fault - the situation is more nuanced than just 'one person' being in the wrong - society on a whole has allowed such issues to become far more common place than they should.

 

 

3 hours ago, TedG said:

Yea, lets blame the victim. 

 

Where am I victim blaming.

Where did I say that it was the child's fault.

I merely responded another poster who thinks that it is acceptable for a child to ride a motorcycle on public roads at 1am. Furthermore, I suggested that a child should not be allowed out on his own at such times.

How is that victim blaming.

 

Do you think that it is ok for a child who is barely a teen to be doing this.

Would you allow your underage children out on a motorcycle after midnight.

From the image, the auto must have been travelling at a high rate of speed to sustain such damage.

 

19 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

For all you know he may have been on an errand for something for a sick family member, or returning from a friend's home. He may also have been a responsible and mature kid.

Other than openly breaking the law you mean?

On 10/10/2025 at 11:08 PM, Georgealbert said:

A 13-year-old boy was killed in Sattahip, Chonburi Province,

 

What was he doing on a motocy?  And what about his modified exhaust system?

14 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

What was he doing on a motocy?  And what about his modified exhaust system?

Have you ever been to Thailand? Just wondering because that's how it is here. Kids allowed to drive from age 8, no helmets, on main roads, all types of motorbikes, and many allowed by grandparents, who are the primary caregivers about 40% of the time. The only way this stops is enforcement, immediate and permanent. The country's population sees it will be fined and vehicles impounded if they aren't following the laws will be how lives are saved. You can't blame the children if their caregivers allow this, and the officials see it and look the other way. 

7 hours ago, G Rex said:

 

A 125cc modified motorcycle (as this one was - look at the exhaust/back box) - with a light weight 13yo Thai on board can easily exceed 90 mph.  Local kids around here will ‘hunker down’ lower, so as to reduce wind resistance, in an effort to go faster. Surely if the motorbike was going slowly, he would have seen the approaching vehicle, and taken evasive action.

Again - I am not in any way condoning the action of the driver - going the wrong way , and under the influence of alcohol - he is obviously the major cause of this incident.

I refer to it as an incident, rather than an accident - because both parties made poor choices that were bound to go wrong. It was entirely preventable.

All accidents are preventable if there are law abiding citizens driving. Driving drunk on the wrong side of the road isn't normal driving, and sometimes it's hard to avoid a collision, especially in a young inexperienced driver, and if the vehicle was traveling over the speed limit. Allowing an illegal driver to drive is on the parents, as children will do all sorts of dumb things if allowed. 

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you ever been to Thailand? Just wondering because that's how it is here.

 

About 30 years thank you, it doesn't mean I have to like punks with modified exhaussystems, disturbing most people.

23 hours ago, mikebell said:

I would say the major cause of fatalities is the failure of 'authorities' to implement the traffic laws.

A truck driver drinking rocket fuel after work, I suspect that he probably drinks it at other times as well, this type of alcohol killed one of my Thai family members 

12 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

About 30 years thank you, it doesn't mean I have to like punks with modified exhaussystems, disturbing most people.

I was just saying that because it's been that way all along, as you've seen. Nothing we can do as foreigners. It is annoying , especially if you live in the towns and cities. It's all about the lack of enforcement of existing laws. 

On 10/11/2025 at 7:26 AM, proton said:

 

Surely it's more drivers not knowing them or if they do ignoring them?

They ignore them as they no action will be taken; they do not know them because they've never been enforced. 

 

Wearing a seatbelt in UK took months of fines before the message got through; how many lives since have been saved by this police enforcement?

 

Here, something as simple and obvious as not wearing a helmet is ignored adding to the daily slaughter.  99% of riders wear helmets in Vietnam because they have a police force.

Near to where I live we have a main road, that over the years has gone from 2 lanes to 4 lanes to now a dual carriageway, Almost everyday we use a section of it usually in the early mornings, I am not  sure if any of the road works has made it any safer, the wider they made the road the faster they drive, on the opposite side it comes down hill, it's like something out of Nascar, sheeeeet man!

Most mornings we stop to get some food or my wife does, and we pull right in off the road and past a junction where many people are trying to U-turn, I usually sit in the car waiting, the other morning we are only there 5 minutes and I bet 4 motorbikes came out of a soi ahead of me and turned the wrong way on the main road, this happens everyday. and there is a Soi on the other side of the U-turn where people often come out and want to turn right across 4 lanes of busy traffic, there has been some disasters there, all they have to do is turn left go a 100 yards and there is another U-turn, Simple, 

16 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

How can you be sure it wasn't the bike that was traveling above the speed limit. It's more likely. I've seen enough young kids riding their bikes like a bat out of hell. Often on the wrong side of the road. Have some on my car-cam.

Mind you, it's very seldom that you'll find me on the road after 1am.

Both of you are missing the point/ The 13 year old boy was KILLED by  a man who admitted drinking high content alcohol and driving on the WRONG side of the road.

 

It doesn't matter if the boy was going faster, slower, stopped or should never gave been there at that time or not. The FACT is that he was KILLED by  a man who admitted drinking high content and driving on the WRONG side of the road.

 

Stop making excuses and blaming the boy. BLAME the "man" that killed him.

6 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Where am I victim blaming.

Where did I say that it was the child's fault.

I merely responded another poster who thinks that it is acceptable for a child to ride a motorcycle on public roads at 1am. Furthermore, I suggested that a child should not be allowed out on his own at such times.

How is that victim blaming.

 

Do you think that it is ok for a child who is barely a teen to be doing this.

Would you allow your underage children out on a motorcycle after midnight.

 

 

More whataboutery.

 

Do you think that drinking and driving is OK?

 

Stop blaming the victim and blame the person that killed him.

3 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

What was he doing on a motocy?  And what about his modified exhaust system?

More whataboutery.

 

And what about the "man" driving the wrong way?

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

 

 

More whataboutery.

 

Do you think that drinking and driving is OK?

 

Stop blaming the victim and blame the person that killed him.

 

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Both of you are missing the point/ The 13 year old boy was KILLED by  a man who admitted drinking high content alcohol and driving on the WRONG side of the road.

 

It doesn't matter if the boy was going faster, slower, stopped or should never gave been there at that time or not. The FACT is that he was KILLED by  a man who admitted drinking high content and driving on the WRONG side of the road.

 

Stop making excuses and blaming the boy. BLAME the "man" that killed him.

 

 

Correct.

 

 

But it would be foolish not to take this strategy as a reason to look at the wider issues of 13 year olds (and younger) riding motorbikes - and teens being out at 1.00 am

23 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

A child should not have access to the keys of any motor vehicle, ever.

13 years old is barely a teenager, it is not mature.

Bought an electric bike for my son at 13 years old, better he learn before motorbike, my mother 84 year agreed.

They will drive anyway, I did.

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

 

More whataboutery.

 

Do you think that drinking and driving is OK?

 

Stop blaming the victim and blame the person that killed him.

Are you having problems reading/understanding my posts or are you just trying to be obtuse?

My post even states that I am not victim blaming.

At no time have I blamed the victim.

Show me the victim blaming in my posts.

 

I am totally against drink driving, in fact I believe that alcohol is one of the worst social evils known to man, so I hold absolutely no pity or sympathies for the drunk driver and IMHO, he should be jailed for reckless manslaughter.

 

As for the victim, well he was a child allowed to go out unsupervised on a motorbike at any time of the night/morning, with little or no parental control, at 13 years old.

Of course I don't blame him.

Most boys at his age (including myself) would have jumped at the chances that he was gifted.

He was simply doing what most teenage boys would have done in his situation.

 

At no time in my previous posts did I blame anyone.

I will and do blame the drunk driver but the parents cannot wash their hand of their responsibility on this one.

No whataboutery (English?), the parents did not do their job and they should share some of the blame.

Their actions (or rather inactions) in most countries would be deemed as child abuse/endangerment.

 

So tell me, were was my blaming of the child and do you really believe that the parents did nothing wrong in letting their child ride a motorbike on public roads in the wee small hours.

 

 

 

I have an easy solution, whenever somebody is found driving on the wrong side of the road the vehicle is impounded permanently, with no possibility of appeal. 

 

Of course this would require both the police and the highway patrol to actively patrol the highways and the roads, which they don't. 

On 10/11/2025 at 10:04 AM, Patong2021 said:

On 10/11/2025 at 5:54 AM, emptypockets said:

13 year old riding a motorbike at 1 in the morning.

Very sad.

For all you know he may have been on an errand for something for a sick family member, or returning from a friend's home. He may also have been a responsible and mature kid.

By definition he wasn't responsible! So what if he "was on an errand" or "returning home", are those exemptions from the law?

On 10/11/2025 at 10:04 AM, Patong2021 said:

The impact damage indicates that he was traveling above the posted speed limit.

Not necessarily, the damage is the result of two vehicles hitting each other head-on (but it's irrelevant as the pickup was going in the wrong direction, against the traffic), so the impact speed is the combination of the two vehicles' speeds,  The boy may well have been speeding, also.

16 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

From the image, the auto must have been travelling at a high rate of speed to sustain such damage.

 

From the image, just as logically, the bike must have been travelling at a high rate of speed to cause such damage.

 

Vehicles are designed to crumple like that but they were travelling in opposite directions and hit head-on, i.e impact speed is that of the pickup and the bike combined.

In the years I was doing sales in So. Thailand I would have customers in Krabi and Khao Lak. On the way to Krabi, more than once Thai drivers would pass even though I was oncoming where I would have to put the car halfway off the road so that we were three across on a two lane highway all doing 110.

 

Going to Khao Lak from Phuket people pass on blind turns.  I guess it's "Buddha is watching out for me", but no, it's just gambling with lives hoping no oncoming is going to appear on that blind curve.