2 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

What a great idea and when they are all inside their bunkers close the gates and not let them out.

Indian Creek village ......... not that much above sea level ........ do the elites know the sea won't rise?

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Where can I get a quality tinfoil hat.

 

Asking for a friend.

 

PS: He's not in Thailand either 

 

The rule is that you never play an Englishman in England, or a Frenchman in France. It makes it just too easy for the locals to investigate your documentation.  By Way of Deception, 272

Do the uber rich know something regular folks don’t? No. Do the uber rich have special insight into “what’s going to happen”? No.

 

They have no special insight and do not have access to “intelligence” that suggests bad things coming, because there is no such intelligence. It’s paranoia that erupts when folks have a lot to lose.

 

They simply build up a fear of what could be and take steps to maximize their chance of riding any whirlwind that comes, no matter how unlikely.

 

Just as conspiracy theorists feed each other and turbo charge the most bizarre beliefs, the elite exacerbate the fear each might have that eventually somebody might come and try to take away what they have. “Do you ever think the masses will come after us” sort of thing.

 

Then it becomes a dick-measuring contest…..”I’m building an underground bunker so big I’m installing a train system to get me from one room to another.” “Well, mine has a Trident submarine in a deep underwater dock.”

 

They isolate themselves to be with their peers and then think they’re secure because they have something like former SEALS or SAS to guard them, but that’s a false sense of security. A person might “take a bullet” for a President out of patriotism, but few will risk leaving their children fatherless for some self-important, entitled billionaire. If a confrontation is asymmetrical and in their favor, the security might fight back, but if a true credible threat comes at the protectee, it will be cut and run. Think of it like the “tough guys” who work for ICE. They’re all Rambo-ish when going after aging grandmothers or 45 kg female garment workers, but none of them will ever go after an undocumented Russian Bratva, because they know that would put their families at risk of retribution.

 

So all the uber wealthy are really doing---other than showing off to each other---is recycling some of their wealth back into the economy. That’s the one true benefit.

Would still be nice to have a mansion near the harbor where my 300 ft luxury yacht docks.

Helicopter to the yacht and full throttle to open sea.

18 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

staffed by ex-military professionals and locked down with surveillance tech straight out of an intelligence agency,

 

Their guards will become their abductors and kidnappers and ultimately their executioners. 

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Indian Creek village ......... not that much above sea level ........ do the elites know the sea won't rise?

Well I have been listening to that BS for 50 years so maybe they agree.

Some decent looking gaffs in that Stone Creek Ranch.

7 hours ago, Wingate said:

Do the uber rich know something regular folks don’t? No. Do the uber rich have special insight into “what’s going to happen”? No.

 

They have no special insight and do not have access to “intelligence” that suggests bad things coming, because there is no such intelligence. It’s paranoia that erupts when folks have a lot to lose.

 

They simply build up a fear of what could be and take steps to maximize their chance of riding any whirlwind that comes, no matter how unlikely.

 

Just as conspiracy theorists feed each other and turbo charge the most bizarre beliefs, the elite exacerbate the fear each might have that eventually somebody might come and try to take away what they have. “Do you ever think the masses will come after us” sort of thing.

 

Then it becomes a dick-measuring contest…..”I’m building an underground bunker so big I’m installing a train system to get me from one room to another.” “Well, mine has a Trident submarine in a deep underwater dock.”

 

They isolate themselves to be with their peers and then think they’re secure because they have something like former SEALS or SAS to guard them, but that’s a false sense of security. A person might “take a bullet” for a President out of patriotism, but few will risk leaving their children fatherless for some self-important, entitled billionaire. If a confrontation is asymmetrical and in their favor, the security might fight back, but if a true credible threat comes at the protectee, it will be cut and run. Think of it like the “tough guys” who work for ICE. They’re all Rambo-ish when going after aging grandmothers or 45 kg female garment workers, but none of them will ever go after an undocumented Russian Bratva, because they know that would put their families at risk of retribution.

 

So all the uber wealthy are really doing---other than showing off to each other---is recycling some of their wealth back into the economy. That’s the one true benefit.

 

Alright. Just a simple question: do you think that a billionaire like Jeff Epstein had any inside knowledge about anything happening in the world? 

3 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

Alright. Just a simple question: do you think that a billionaire like Jeff Epstein had any inside knowledge about anything happening in the world? 

Did he fortify his island ?

6 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Their guards will become their abductors and kidnappers and ultimately their executioners. 

 

I didn't bother watching the full Netflix series. It's a Spanish production on that theme. The wealthy have a special bunker where they all head to except it is a big scam. Their special security arranged with the military actually is an elaborate  scheme to  take control of their assets  and steal their funds while they are all in the bunker.

 

As an aside, you are always right on whatever you post. No matter the subject, you always see the critical issues and are never taken in by political idiocy. Always succinct and always to the point.

7 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Did he fortify his island ?

 

Typical distraction from the original question. Not falling for that.

3 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

Typical distraction from the original question. Not falling for that.

what was the question ?

 

39 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

what was the question ?

 

 

I don't think this one knows. 

1 hour ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

Alright. Just a simple question: do you think that a billionaire like Jeff Epstein had any inside knowledge about anything happening in the world? 

No.

 

There are no puppetmasters in the world who control things. Too many random variables. Nobody can control anything for any length of time, because everybody has opposition or competitors or falls prey to randomness.

 

It always has struck me as silly than conspiratorialists think somebody is in charge. NOBODY is in charge.

 

That should make you feel good, but I suspect it just makes you think you know, or think you know, something that is totally false and absurd.

 

Knock yourself out, if it makes you think you're "aware".

 

So you do not think that some people could black mail influent and powerful people influencing their stance in the world stage? So people like  Trump, Clinton and many others could not be forced to follow certain policies for the benefit of specific countries or people? 

If post apocalypse money has lost its value, obviously, the whole source of power of all billionaires, including Zuckerberg's, will be wiped out.

 

Why would his security guards provide their services to him if money has lost all value, their families were wiped out and they can just take everything Zuckerberg has? Surely they'll put a bullet in his head and take his compound?

28 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

If post apocalypse money has lost its value, obviously, the whole source of power of all billionaires, including Zuckerberg's, will be wiped out.

 

Why would his security guards provide their services to him if money has lost all value, their families were wiped out and they can just take everything Zuckerberg has? Surely they'll put a bullet in his head and take his compound?

 

They won't.  Do you know why?

 

Because they are DIFFERENT 

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

They won't.  Do you know why?

 

Because they are DIFFERENT 

 

Circumcised? 

On 12/27/2025 at 9:26 PM, swissie said:

There was a time where the "Soviet Union" had to fall. There will be a time when the Western/US system has to fall. No political system can survive, if 90% of the wealth of a nation finds ist's way to the pockets of 10% of a financial/political elite.

 

The vacuum cleaner sucking up wealth from below to upstairs, endlessly. Can not last.

Quote from Pearl S. Buck's "The Good Earth"

 

"When the rich are too rich there is a way, and if I am not mistaken, that way will come soon"

On 12/27/2025 at 8:59 PM, swissie said:

On some rare occasion, a thred appears worth reading and thinking about it. This is one of them.

 

The "bunker billionaires" are better informed than "the little people". They know what's coming. Or better: They know what MUST be coming.

So why couldn't the " better informed " see the 2008

Crash coming ?

6 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

So why couldn't the " better informed " see the 2008

Crash coming ?

Maybe they caused it.

16 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Their guards will become their abductors and kidnappers and ultimately their executioners. 

When it becomes in their best interest.  We are all noble and would never do many things but when those things start to be beneficial, most find an excuse to do about anything that is good for number one. Group dynamics then turn individuals into monster executioners all in the name of good.

 

IMO, we aren't even close to anything that resembles a revolution in America.  Life is too good for too many.

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Indian Creek village ......... not that much above sea level ........ do the elites know the sea won't rise?

51 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

So why couldn't the " better informed " see the 2008

Crash coming ?

Good point but that happened extremely fast when not only them but most of America was benefitting from the debt situation.  Truth was just a problem to circumvent and keep the lending machine pumping out dollars.

 

The rich have too many advantages even the upper middle class don't have and a reset would be nice.  Every time that is close to happening  the fed steps in and saves the day because the consequence of a financial reset it too great.  I say, let capitalism take over and let the rich lose a load of money. 

 

Everybody will suffer but in the end we would have a better financial landscape and some of the money would be redistributed.  Being poorer isn't an issue as long as you compare more favorably to others 🙂

The world is certainly heading for chaos in one form or another. The UK and most of Europe is destined for a civil war within 20 years. Once a certain group of people reach a certain level it's game over.

The movie stars, athletes, real estate developers, hedge fund managers, etc., don't know anything special, but the top tech guys might. They might be scared of themselves, though they are also the masters of their own possible destruction.

 

Professor Stuart Russell, who literally wrote the book on AI, claims to have asked the top CEOs in the 6-8 major AI firms what they estimate is the chance AI wipes out humanity. The CEOs allegedly said "25%". One in four chance the very things these CEOs are creating wipes out all of humanity.

 

Russell tried to guesstimate the motivations these CEOs---like Altman, Musk, Page, Zuckerberg, etc.---have for going ahead with something that has---in their opinion---a one in four chance of killing them. Money---the first multi-trillionaire---was one thing, and 'being a god' was another, since whoever is first with true AGI will control the planet. These CEOs thought a 75% chance of being a multi-trillionaire god was worth risking the lives of the other 8.5 billion people on the planet.

 

Russell is not alone in voicing what major AI CEOs actually think. Tristan Harris, who also knows all of the AI CEOs says the same thing. Harris adds that these CEOs do not even know how their LLMs actually do what they do. They write the code and the machine does things they did not see coming.

 

So what we have are 6-8 people placing bets that might lead to 8.5 billion deaths. Nobody is stopping them, because they only hear the supposed good things AI will do. Yes, there are good things, but nobody really knows if the bad things win out in the end.

 

Even if humanity isn't wiped out, the best case is that AI eats maybe 25% of all jobs, leaving massive unemployment. In the past, when jobs were obviated, people could retrain and new fields emerged. That's not going to happen anymore, because AI can retrain itself instantly and front run displaced workers getting retrained for jobs that won't exist when their retraining is done. Maybe the "elite" know the unemployed zombies will be rioting, so the elite are hunkering down where they think they can escape the riffraff.

 

I'm digging a hole today!

On 12/28/2025 at 5:54 AM, save the frogs said:

 

But wealth is partly a matter of perspective.

 

Yes, you can live in a mansion if you're rich. 

 

But in some ways, the gaps between rich and poor will actually narrow more and more with advancing tech.

 

What is a self-driving car? Who used to have drivers in the past? The rich guy with a Rolls Royce. Now, everyone can afford a chauffeur. Even if you may not own the car, but maybe ownership is over-rated. Ownership of fancy items is mostly a vain pursuit to impress others and act like you're more important than others. Is that what you want?

 

With Optimus, maybe only middle class will be able to afford one at first. But eventually the prices may come down to where almost anyone can have a robot butler in the home. 

 

And same with medicine. If tech does the heavy lifting, anyone in the world can have cheap access to the best surgeon in the world. 

 

Things are trending toward being cheaper, so being rich is becoming less important. 

 

 

 

 

 

Isn't that though really only the case for the lower middle - to middle class though? We are seeing in so called wealthy western countries an ever growing number of the truly poor. Along with which comes poor nutrition, so bad health, education lack and diminishing opportunities to climb out of it.

We can't live in our bubble regarding the poorer nations either. Which due to climate change and other aspects drive failure and complete breakdown of already limited resources. Hence we in the west are moaning about immigration but we ain't seen nothing yet!

You can't stop the ( growing) flood of people aiming for a better chance if they can get into those countries offering, as they see it, hope and life.

Frankly if all these billionaires don't pull their heads out of their arses and start using all that money and resource to do some planet mending they will suffer too. What happens in your super guarded bunkhole when your 'Guards' decide to take over perhaps? How long can they maintain their little bit of eden when the rest of the world is a barren void and all civilisation crumbled?

It would help if Putin and all the other warmongers stopped wasting resources on weapons let alone the further increase in climate damage the use of such weapons cause. 

14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

If post apocalypse money has lost its value, obviously, the whole source of power of all billionaires, including Zuckerberg's, will be wiped out.

 

Why would his security guards provide their services to him if money has lost all value, their families were wiped out and they can just take everything Zuckerberg has? Surely they'll put a bullet in his head and take his compound?

Fair point and one I also made in an earlier post. However there have been some rumours floating about that these persons of extreme wealth have in fact thought of this. Something along the lines of controlled collar things which can be engineered to deliver a life ending shock. Other methods are to include families or children who will get to live but also in effect act as hostages. These people would of course be well aware of their need to control all/any security people.

Wealthy Elites Begin Quietly Moving into Heavily-Guarded ‘Bunker'.

 

What about the wealthy AN Elites? Where are they moving into?

 

 

 

None of which will save them come the revolution.